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Stan said:
I think this is some discredited pseudoscience... I think it's called phrenology? The discredited 19th-century "science" of measuring criminals' skulls with forceps to find some physical attribute that would predict future criminality. What you're doing is that, sped up to the 21st century.
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Please stop, I am in the "current year", you need to catch up
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Soon, they will try to lobotomize the AI so it cannot do it anymore.
You guys need to let go of your pseudo-religious convictions derived from liberalism. I know it's hard. I know the world is fucked up and brutal.
But truth is far, far more important than you being scared of the real world.
A for back to feminism, the thing is, it's part of the same progressive view of the world that denies biological differences and tries to impose what Adam Curtis calls a "dream world" over pacified subjects. This is why all of this is related, because people that are in the business of pursuing equity or equality are almost always on the business of denying biological differences or trying super-hard to minimize them and to prevent policy based on data.
 
AgendaPoster said:
Please stop, I am in the "current year", you need to catch up
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Soon, they will try to lobotomize the AI so it cannot do it anymore.
You guys need to let go of your pseudo-religious convictions derived from liberalism. I know it's hard. I know the world is fucked up and brutal.
But truth is far, far more important than you being scared of the real world.
A for back to feminism, the thing is, it's part of the same progressive view of the world that denies biological differences and tries to impose what Adam Curtis calls a "dream world" over pacified subjects. This is why all of this is related, because people that are in the business of pursuing equity or equality are almost always on the business of denying biological differences or trying super-hard to minimize them and to prevent policy based on data.
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Look, you put biased data into an AI and it gives you biased results. This is why when early AI models got pictures of bald men they would try to put a hair filter on him, because all the pictures of humans the AI had received had hair. This is why Apple's AI would bring you pictures of black people if you asked for pictures of "gorillas" until Apple patched the glitch.

AI isn't an oracle. It's not even smarter than a person. (look at those midjourney pics Josh posted recently. The planes in the sky are a hot mess. Some of them look like asterisks or Ys.) This is like you saying a homunculus is smarter than its inventor.
 
Stan said:
biased data
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You know what
I can't fight this sort of lunacy.
You're lying, and for what? To protect a world view based on empathy that you think it's better than the alternative?
Lies will bring it all down, in a brutal manner. I am only trying to shed some light on a potentially peaceful path to exit this dream state based on made up feel good lunacy.
 
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Stan said:
PS also I guess Native populations were/are highly succeptible to alcoholism because alcohol was introduced to them by Europeans, whereas the Europeans spent thousands of years drinking terrible beer and wine and developing appropriate pathways to processing alcohol and blunting its addictive potential.
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Native Americans had alcohol long before the Colombian exchange, they're only susceptible to alcoholism because life on the res is bleak and terrible and many of them feel like they have no future.
 
Anyhow, since it got brought up for a bit earlier, I guess I could ask what women's opinions are on female separatism specifically, since I know that's the "dealbreaker" that keeps some women who would otherwise be full 4th-wave away from the movement.

As example/starter questions: Do you think it's best as an individual decision, or could there be some benefit to a more widespread separatist "wave"? Are you yourself a separatist (and if so, why)? If you aren't, do you believe it can be a good choice for other women, or not? Feel free to add in other ideas as well
 
Group Project Carrier said:
Anyhow, since it got brought up for a bit earlier, I guess I could ask what women's opinions are on female separatism specifically, since I know that's the "dealbreaker" that keeps some women who would otherwise be full 4th-wave away from the movement.

As example/starter questions: Do you think it's best as an individual decision, or could there be some benefit to a more widespread separatist "wave"? Are you yourself a separatist (and if so, why)? If you aren't, do you believe it can be a good choice for other women, or not? Feel free to add in other ideas as well
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To be consistent with thoughts on the whole of Feminism, it should be an individual choice. Just like if you decide to keep a pregnancy. It’s about an actual world of individual freedom without fear of government (men) from interfering. It also means we are free to deal with whatever consequences we have come up as a result.

I’m not a separatist but I’m not going to stop someone or shame them for deciding to not get married or be in relationships. Nobody should be compelled into making decisions that they don’t fully agree with. That’s where it becomes cult-like when members of a movement start to pressure others into that belief system.

I can’t say if it’s good or bad because that is a highly individualistic and intimate choice to make. I would recommend that women make informed decisions before doing anything.
 
m1ddl3m4rch said:
Youre right, let's be smart and support Democrat pro-tranny Feminism. You know, the one that's currently in power and actively oppressing women. Smart Feminists Vote Blue No Matter Who!
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The brain capacity of moids who think trannys should be the defining issue for women while *the other side* is advocating that ectopic pregnancies can be reversed will never not astound me.

They can’t imagine a world view not centering men so of course it’s easier to believe men in dresses are the number one priority.
 
AgendaPoster said:
You know what
I can't fight this sort of lunacy.
You're lying, and for what? To protect a world view based on empathy that you think it's better than the alternative?
Lies will bring it all down, in a brutal manner. I am only trying to shed some light on a potentially peaceful path to exit this dream state based on made up feel good lunacy.
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OK, then we can move on from your derail about race and back to the main point, which is that I think you're using "hierarchy" as a byword for "patriarchy" and are advocating some natural world fallacy BS that women are inherently lesser than men.
Do you have anything more you want to share about that?
 
m1ddl3m4rch said:
I mean ... romance literature is a huge market, and the Fifty Shades movies didn't make or watch themselves. I wouldn't trust a coomer to tell me about healthy sex any more than I'd trust a Feminist.
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Why do you assume everyone who watched fifty shades is a feminist retard? and most romance literature is normal and not like 50 shades but yet once again the male desperatley wants to assume all women want to raped so he can absolve the fact that men are rapists and oppressors of women. Kill yourself and get raped by 50 niggers
m1ddl3m4rch said:
Youre right, let's be smart and support Democrat pro-tranny Feminism. You know, the one that's currently in power and actively oppressing women. Smart Feminists Vote Blue No Matter Who!
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I didn’t say vote blue I just said that conservatism is anti woman with it obviously is. Conservatives repealed abortion rights.. just because the left is bad for women doesn’t mean conservatives are good for women
Group Project Carrier said:
Anyhow, since it got brought up for a bit earlier, I guess I could ask what women's opinions are on female separatism specifically, since I know that's the "dealbreaker" that keeps some women who would otherwise be full 4th-wave away from the movement.

As example/starter questions: Do you think it's best as an individual decision, or could there be some benefit to a more widespread separatist "wave"? Are you yourself a separatist (and if so, why)? If you aren't, do you believe it can be a good choice for other women, or not? Feel free to add in other ideas as well
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Women need to leave men behind
 
Stan said:
omfg self-owned
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How
I am only advocating for truth.
Sometimes the truth does not advantage your group, but that's 100% irrelevant, cause truth should trump all else
It's not me who is expecting liberal progressivism to come to the rescue with made up shit
Plus, I am not even nationalistic or patriotic, so you can dunk on Romania as much as you want.
 
AgendaPoster said:
How
I am only advocating for truth.
Sometimes the truth does not advantage your group, but that's 100% irrelevant, cause truth should trump all else
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Well if you're all in on the truthiness, can you please explain what you're getting at when you talk about "biological truths" and "inevitable hierarchies"? Cause to my eyes that looks functionally similar to saying women need patriarchy because women are too weak/stupid to manage without a man in charge.
 
skekChuck said:
What is “normal romance” in your definition?
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dissimilar to 50 Shades, a book widely decried by feminists and BDSM people alike as being an unrealistic and abusive depiction of sexy power exchange.
My personal criticism is that it reads like a Pottery Barn catalog. It's as much a wealth fantasy as a sex fantasy.
 
m1ddl3m4rch said:
pro-tranny Feminism
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Trannies are not the only problem facing women and not even the worst problem. trannies are a nuisance but the republicans that want to repeal abortion rights, no fault divorce, and force women back to the kitchen are worse imo. Certain dumb Women here that think the only problem women have is trannies and faggots and niggers and can’t think hard enough to realize that the straight white men that they love so much want to oppress them in different ways because it hurts their feelings that their precious dindu nuffin Males hate them just as much as fags and trannies . These women are retarded and probably should be put back in the kitchen
 
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