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February’s Windows 11 update is causing startup problems for users​

Several users are experiencing various issues with system startup after installing the KB5077181 update for Windows 11.

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In summary:​

  • PCWorld reports that Windows 11 update KB5077181 is causing critical boot loops and login failures for users after installation.
  • The problematic February update triggers endless restart cycles with various error codes including SENS, DHCP, and 0x800f0983 errors.
  • Users can resolve issues by uninstalling KB5077181 through Control Panel and pausing automatic updates until Microsoft releases an official fix.

A few days ago, Microsoft released update KB5077181 for Windows 11 (both 24H2 and 25H2). Now, some reports (via Neowin) are emerging that the new version is causing boot problems for users. The critical startup problems appear to occur immediately after installation, causing those affected to end up in an endless loop of restarts.

In some cases, a SENS error message (System Event Notification Service) error appears. This usually means that the system can’t interact with the service due to missing data or network problems. Other users are seeing error codes 0x800f0983 and 0x800f0991.


Some users, on the other hand, report that their systems display a DHCP error due to a missing connection or an invalid IP address, even though they’re connected to the internet. There are numerous problems with the patch that can’t yet be clearly explained.

What you can do about it​

There’s currently no fix from Microsoft and the boot problems aren’t listed in the list of known issues with the update. Since users are unable to log in even after several loops, some have tried to reset their systems via recovery mode—to varying degrees of success.

If you can, uninstall the update via Control Panel > Programs > View Installed Updates and selecting KB5077181. After that, you must still suspend automatic updates by Microsoft by navigating to Settings > Windows Update > Pause Updates. Otherwise, the update may be reinstalled and cause problems again.

Further reading: How to roll back a problematic Windows update



This article originally appeared on our sister publication PC-WELT and was translated and localized from German.

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Jace on ice said:
It's genuinely kind of shocking their Jeet CEO hasn't been forced out yet. This makes four cumulative updates in a row that have contained potentially fatal errors.
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Windows is a line item in Microsoft revenue now. MS makes their money from Azure and business software. For all the AI bluster, they haven't reported AI revenue since last year so they're losing money.
 
deleuzeon said:
It's actually strange how many programmers seem to have developed a religious worship of LLM tools and how "productive" they've become even as everything they ship sucks, performs like shit, and breaks constantly. It's like they're hypnotized by the ability to produce mass amounts of text.
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Something I have been thinking about for a while now is that there have always been a few categories of programmers, and I think the LLM hype has caused there to be large rifts that make the distinctions between these categories obvious. I don't mean categories like web-dev versus backend versus embedded, but more like programmers who are engineers, versus programmers who are more like business types, and programmers who are more like "artists".

I think the programmers as business types are the biggest LLM supporters, they see themselves writing code as a blocker to being "finished" or delivering a product, so anything at all that can make it faster is something to be celebrated, no matter the downsides. I think these people got into programming because it was a (well used to) well known way to get a high paying career in a growing industry. These types of people don't care for more technical topics like data structures, algorithms, operating systems, or anything that isn't directly siphoning money into their or their employers' bank account. To them code is simply the product at best, or an unfortunate requirement for getting customers to pay them money.

Engineering focused programmers seem to be half-way on the LLM hypetrain, but from what I see focus much more on the "Validating the AI output" side of things rather than the "I'm going to spin up 12 Claude instances and make a feature in 10 minutes" party. I think these are people you would find in any other engineering profession if software engineering / computer science didn't exist at all. What matters most is solving a problem and making sure it stays solved. These are your embedded software guys, or the low level guys you want on any real product that isn't just a CRUD app tied to a database.

The artist style programmers I think are the purely anti-ai crowd. These are your Richard Stallmans and the like, who mesh well with the engineering crowd but have very particular ideas on what software is and what it should be. Good technical skills, but very particular in how a problem must be solved. These are the type of people that will create some algorithm then make a five paragraph long poem about how beautiful it is.

Just my thoughts as someone who teaches computer science. I generally see the vast majority are the business types who would be better served by majoring in engineering management or business management. Their parents generally pushed them into CS thinking it was still an easy career path and "They were really good with computers", or the student chose it because they didn't know what else to pick. These people have the worst work ethic and grades, "C's get Degrees" crowd. Many indians. (Despite what you may hear in normie circles, indians are not good students.)

The engineering programmers I see as students are generally those minoring in something like electrical, aerospace, mechanical, chemical, etc engineering. Or they are dual majoring. Generally good grades, work ethic is ok, some have it some don't. Many Asians and Whites in this crowd.

The artist programmers are huge fags to teach.
 
Shit like this makes me despair at my computer options. I've been needing to upgrade my laptop which is ten years old and had repairs made to it. But Windows 11, especially with these bricking problems and updates you can't turn off shit makes it a non starter. But I don't want a ginoed as fuck Chromebook, Linex is also out of the question, and I really don't want to overpay for an Apple laptop. How fucked am I?
 
MirrorNoir said:
Shit like this makes me despair at my computer options. I've been needing to upgrade my laptop which is ten years old and had repairs made to it. But Windows 11, especially with these bricking problems and updates you can't turn off shit makes it a non starter. But I don't want a ginoed as fuck Chromebook, Linex is also out of the question, and I really don't want to overpay for an Apple laptop. How fucked am I?
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why don't you want linux are you using specific programs that dont exist on linux

Terrifik said:
For love God just hire more non Indian devs to check your updates.
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I've already said that but for a price of a 1 decent American developer you can have 10 Indians. Additionally India is one of the countries that doesn't really believe in human rights or something so you can make your Indian workers work 12 hours 6 days per week. And they won't riot. They will be happy that they have it better than their wives who work as much in worse conditions in the textile industry.
General Zigger said:
Just my thoughts as someone who teaches computer science. I generally see the vast majority are the business types who would be better served by majoring in engineering management or business management. Their parents generally pushed them into CS thinking it was still an easy career path and "They were really good with computers", or the student chose it because they didn't know what else to pick. These people have the worst work ethic and grades, "C's get Degrees" crowd. Many indians. (Despite what you may hear in normie circles, indians are not good students.)
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It's lunacy to me that some people actually think CS is easy. I took some CS courses (but I major in something else) and I didn't think for a moment "gosh this is easy". I was seriously considering majoring in CS but I didn't think I'd graduate.
 
deleuzeon said:
It's actually strange how many programmers seem to have developed a religious worship of LLM tools and how "productive" they've become even as everything they ship sucks, performs like shit, and breaks constantly. It's like they're hypnotized by the ability to produce mass amounts of text.
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There's a not at all insignificant section of programmers who are insecure about the metrics of their output, often because they don't produce particularly good code in the first place. To them, AI is a massive ego validator, because AI code is often poor performing and overly large, much like their own - These are the same people who ego chase by being aggressive on Stack Overflow, and now their codes all been hoovered up into it.

They basically got given a bot, told it is the future of coding, and when they look inside its fucked up exactly like they are. Of course they love the damned thing.
 
Gap Hag said:
win 10 chads (and linux) stay winning.
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We're keeping our chest above the rising shit tide I guess. Formal "we no longer support your version" is kind of bad, but a completely fucked 11 is not preferred.
 
Peaches the Wonder Cat said:
Windows is a line item in Microsoft revenue now. MS makes their money from Azure and business software. For all the AI bluster, they haven't reported AI revenue since last year so they're losing money.
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Windows just needs to be tolerable enough to keep corporate and gubernment firmly chained to the M365/Azure/Entra cloud sphere. Everything else is free game and the OS team is free to torment the individual and small business idiots by making Windows suck as much as they want, but the big guys have to be able to tone down the suckage to acceptable levels so they don't get any funny ideas about trying to pivot to a different infrastructure provider.
 
Neil said:
>Windows 98
Very good.
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Not really. It was buggy and crashed a lot. Also one of the last to not use the NT codebase. It begat Millenium Edition, which was a notorious nightmare.

Neil said:
The forced shutdowns and updates are my fucking breaking point with Windows, Microsoft needs to start from fucking scratch and leave all of this stupid AI bloatware bullshit and spyware in the past.
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Use OoShutUp10 or whatever's the modern equivalent to minimize telemetry and turn off automatic updates. Or get a Mac.
 
Pissmaster said:
Not really. It was buggy and crashed a lot. Also one of the last to not use the NT codebase. It begat Millenium Edition, which was a notorious nightmare.
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OG 98 really is much more unstable than people tend to give it credit for and I think they're largely mixing it up with 98 SE, which is easily the best OS choice for nostalgia computing as it's by far the most reliable out of all the DOS-based Windows-es. ME really is astonishingly bad though.
 
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