US FBI sought to develop sources in Catholic churches, internal documents show

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The FBI recently sought to develop sources inside Christian churches and Catholic dioceses as part of an effort to combat domestic terrorism, according to internal documents released by House Judiciary Committee on Monday.

The internal documents — obtained last month by House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, and Rep. Mike Johnson, R-La., who are also members of the so-called Weaponization Subcommittee — showed the FBI planned to use churches as "new avenues for tripwire and source development." The federal law enforcement agency also aimed to specifically target "mainline Catholic parishes" as part of its efforts.

In addition, according to Jordan, the FBI expressed interest in "leverag[ing] existing sources and/or initiat[ing] Type 5 Assessments to develop new sources with the placement and access." And, in another example, the agency cited a desire to to sensitize religious congregations "to the warning signs of radicalization and enlist their assistance to serve as suspicious activity tripwires."

"Based on the limited information produced by the FBI to the Committee, we now know that the FBI relied on at least one undercover agent to produce its analysis, and that the FBI proposed that its agents engage in outreach to Catholic parishes to develop sources among the clergy and church leadership to inform on Americans practicing their faith," Jordan wrote in a letter to FBI Director Christopher Wray on Monday.


Jordan also issued a subpoena for a series of related documents the committee previously requested from the FBI, but which the FBI has failed to provide.


"This information is outrageous and only reinforces the Committee’s need for all FBI material responsive to our request," Jordan wrote to Wray. "The documents produced to date show how the FBI sought to enlist Catholic houses of worship as potential sources to monitor and report on their parishioners."

"Americans attend church to worship and congregate for their spiritual and personal betterment," the letter continued. "They must be free to exercise their fundamental First Amendment rights without worrying that the FBI may have planted so-called "tripwire" sources or other informants in their houses of worship."

Jordan and Johnson first requested related documents from the FBI on Feb. 16, days after former FBI agent and whistleblower Kyle Seraphin published an internal document originating from the FBI's Richmond Field Office that appeared to outline a plan to "mitigate the threat of Radical-Traditionalist Catholics."

The leaked document generated widespread condemnation from Republican lawmakers who said the FBI's efforts may violate the Constitution.

However, the original letter from Jordan and Johnson went unanswered prompting a follow-up request on March 20. Three days later, the FBI produced the 18-page document Jordan announced on Monday.

The FBI didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.


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Isn‘t this literally what the KGB did with the Orthodox churches in the Soviet period? Fed bois late to the party.
 
Remember when they'd actually wait for there to be an actual attack before they'd try to pump the institutions responsible (and "responsible") full of globoys?

They aren't even doing that anymore.
 
I spent the past 5 minutes trying to unfuck the MSN link, but I can't. The original one doesn't work, the provided one doesn't either, and you somehow managed to archive the right story with the wrong link, which probably shows just how bad msn is. Anyone wanting to read the story, just click on the archive, it somehow works
 
I am 100% certain there is a glownigger minecraft server whose job is to quite literally attract anyone radicalized by the declining condition of living in the US and the west in general.

The upside of destabilizing society is that you get the justification of increased spending headed your way. The downside is you end up becoming the guy who has to pump out water in a capsizing ship. Only so much you could pump before the whole thing ends up meeting Davy Jones. The KGB, despite all their power could do little when the USSR was on its last legs.

Seafarer said:
Isn‘t this literally what the KGB did with the Orthodox churches in the Soviet period? Fed bois late to the party.
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Hilariously, the only reason why the KGB didn't go too hard on the Orthodox unlike other religions in the USSR was because Stalin's mama would have never let him hear the end of it if he were to go through it.
 
Useful_Mistake said:
I spent the past 5 minutes trying to unfuck the MSN link, but I can't. The original one doesn't work, the provided one doesn't either, and you somehow managed to archive the right story with the wrong link, which probably shows just how bad msn is. Anyone wanting to read the story, just click on the archive, it somehow works
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Someone, somewhere, has shut it down.
 
ZazietheBeast said:
Hilariously, the only reason why the KGB didn't go too hard on the Orthodox unlike other religions in the USSR was because Stalin's mama would have never let him hear the end of it if he were to go through it.
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Well that and the fact that the Orthodox churches made for a nice controlled opposition they could use to sniff out wrongthinkers
 
ZazietheBeast said:
I am 100% certain there is a glownigger minecraft server whose job is to quite literally attract anyone radicalized by the declining condition of living in the US and the west in general.
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I recall a few years ago my far left aunt from California over the phone ranting to me about "right wing extremists" who are "recruiting young men" to commit terror acts and brought up the Christchurch mosque shooting as evidence, and my dad agreed with her when I told him about her rant.

Thing is, this exchange popped back in my head recently, and I can't help but realize that the "right wing extremists" are really undercover Feds in Discord servers and other messenger apps. And it's true that glowies DO target people who are susceptible to that kind of peer pressure, like why do you think "radicalized" people often turn out to have things like mental illness or have traumatic issues stemming from abuse in childhood? Like the vast majority of people in militias in the US who aren't feds are mentally stunted nineteen-year-olds for a reason. Like glowies target these people to carry out these specific violent acts against specific targets so they can farm arrests so interested groups can lobby for laws that clamp down on the Internet or the second amendment. Very sinister.
 
Abyssal Bulwark said:
I recall a few years ago my far left aunt from California over the phone ranting to me about "right wing extremists" who are "recruiting young men" to commit terror acts and brought up the Christchurch mosque shooting as evidence, and my dad agreed with her when I told him about her rant.

Thing is, this exchange popped back in my head recently, and I can't help but realize that the "right wing extremists" are really undercover Feds in Discord servers and other messenger apps. And it's true that glowies DO target people who are susceptible to that kind of peer pressure, like why do you think "radicalized" people often turn out to have things like mental illness or have traumatic issues stemming from abuse in childhood? Like the vast majority of people in militias in the US who aren't feds are mentally stunted nineteen-year-olds for a reason. Like glowies target these people to carry out these specific violent acts against specific targets so they can farm arrests so interested groups can lobby for laws that clamp down on the Internet or the second amendment. Very sinister.
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And this is exactly why US alphabet agencies are now being called Glowniggers. And what's interesting is that during the martyrdom of St. Floyd, there's tons of protests about local law enforcement but hardly any for these alphabet agencies. While these glowies are getting the funding they want, they are essentially speeding the decline of the US as its thanks to shit like this is why your average pleb has lost hope in the system. And when there's enough disbelievers in the system, its how you end up with something like the fall of the USSR. Where various instruments of the state suddenly found themselves rudderless.

Its also important to note that these glownigger tactics of grooming teens and young adults are effective in broken households. In fact, its where they get most of their recruits from. This rule holds true in Military and Law enforcement. Thus, the unironic way to resist glownigger influence is to have a strong and solid family foundation. Take interest in your family members, spend time with them, instill values that will serve them well later. Such as not being too dependent on your phone or having the habit of not using your electronic while in bed. Because as it stands, seeing all the broken families and screwed up social climate, things are going to get worse before they get any better.
 
Seafarer said:
Isn‘t this literally what the KGB did with the Orthodox churches in the Soviet period? Fed bois late to the party.
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This is literally what the CCP does today with religious groups. The government can't allow people to have their own communities, their own money, or any freedom at all, regardless of what government system it is.
 
Seafarer said:
Isn‘t this literally what the KGB did with the Orthodox churches in the Soviet period? Fed bois late to the party.
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Isn’t that still being done? I’ve heard Zelenskyy is going after Orthodox priests in Ukraine.
Useful_Mistake said:
I spent the past 5 minutes trying to unfuck the MSN link, but I can't. The original one doesn't work, the provided one doesn't either, and you somehow managed to archive the right story with the wrong link, which probably shows just how bad msn is. Anyone wanting to read the story, just click on the archive, it somehow works
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Apologies. There was a bunch of letters and numbers on the end and I got this sinking feeling that it’d be like Twitter and reveal things like location and IP address, and I get told to cut that part out.
 
Random Internet Person said:
Apologies. There was a bunch of letters and numbers on the end and I got this sinking feeling that it’d be like Twitter and reveal things like location and IP address, and I get told to cut that part out.
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That doesn't help, that just sends you to the wrong fucking story.

Make no mistake, I'm not saying this to shit on you, the fact that you somehow managed to archive this is a miracle. You more than did everything required. I'm shitting on just how bad and unstable msn's site is.
 
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