Science Fatherless sons have more testosterone

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The Economist (Archive) - June 1, 2022

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Most males in the animal kingdom do little parenting. Their strategy is simple: inseminate as many females as possible and hope for the best. Sometimes, though, parental investment by a male pays off. Songbird chicks are usually tended by both mother and father. Wolf packs see alpha males and females collaborate to raise the cubs. And in human beings, too, the children’s father hangs around to lend a hand in bringing up the kids.

Sometimes.

Understanding why some men settle down to form families with the mothers of their children, and others don’t, is normally seen as the prerogative of social science. But biology has a role, too. And work just published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, by Lee Gettler of the University of Notre Dame, in Indiana, clarifies how part of that biological mechanism, testosterone, operates.

Previous studies suggest that high levels of testosterone, the principal male hormone, are bad for family life. Fathers with lower testosterone levels provide more child care and are better partners to the children’s mothers. Indeed, fatherhood is often associated with a drop in testosterone levels. Conversely, high-testosterone males are less likely to stick around.

Dr Gettler has shown something further. This is that a man’s adult testosterone level seems correlated with whether his father was present during his teenage years. His data come from a survey begun in Cebu City, in the Philippines, in 1983. This monitored the health and nutrition of 966 men enrolled as babies. It also collected extensive information on whether the fathers of these men were around and providing parental care in the households in which they were brought up. It further documented whether participants got married, had children and, if they did, whether they participated in child care. Crucially, it also measured their testosterone levels at the ages of 21, 26 and 30.

Overall, Dr Gettler and his colleagues found that on becoming fathers, men had lower testosterone levels if their own fathers had lived with them and been involved in their care during their teenage years. Specifically, if that had happened, testosterone levels in their saliva were 16% below those of men whose fathers had not stuck around to help raise them.

This difference has two possible explanations. One is that it is directly genetic, with high-testosterone fathers (those least likely to stick around) begetting high-testosterone sons. In this case the correlation with paternal absence would be a coincidence. The other is that teenage experience actually modulates testosterone levels. This explanation, which Dr Gettler favours, could lead to a vicious circle of high-testosterone men abandoning their sons, who thus become high-testosterone in their turn.

Testosterone levels are not, Dr Gettler found, completely deterministic in the matter of parental care. Some of those in the survey whose fathers were absent during their adolescence, and who ended up with high levels of the hormone, did nevertheless became nurturing parents. But they are indicative.

Why this pattern should pertain is an unanswered question. But a zoologist looking at these data might be tempted to see in them an example of developmental plasticity, in which the same genes produce different, but appropriate, outcomes in different circumstances.

If nurturing young carries a cost in reproductive opportunities foregone elsewhere (which it presumably does), then it would not have been favoured by evolution in times of uncertainty—the sorts of times that lead to early death. A dead man cannot care for his children, and dead children cannot be cared for. Better, evolutionarily speaking, to spread your genes far and wide while you can. Since the absence of a father could, in turn, mark such uncertain times, for that absence to trigger a high-testosterone developmental pathway encouraging this would make sense, even if it is not appropriate to the modern world.

That is speculation. But whatever the truth, Dr Gettler’s discovery surely throws a useful light on the problem of fatherless families, and how to try to end it.
 
Niggers are bred for field work not intelligence, become free bucks, proceed to knock up every nigger bitch around, LBJ invents welfare to reward this, scientists try to spin it as a good thing.

Nah fam I had a two parent house hold and my t levels are above average. Don't buy into media niggercattle propaganda, don't eat the bug, shoot your local politicians, and stop eating seed oils.
 
Most males in the animal kingdom do little parenting. Their strategy is simple: inseminate as many females as possible and hope for the best.

That really depends on the species. K selected species(species that have fewer offspring at a time, live longer and take longer to mature, like humans) tend to have higher rates of male parental care than R selected species(species that are short lived, produce many offspring at once and shorter maturation time, rats, rabbits animals like that)
 
That really depends on the species. K selected species(species that have fewer offspring at a time, live longer and take longer to mature, like humans) tend to have higher rates of male parental care than R selected species(species that are short lived, produce many offspring at once and shorter maturation time, rats, rabbits animals like that)
Sir, this is a propaganda piece. I'm going to have to kindly ask you to take your science elsewhere
 
Who cares? We're not monkeys or pigs or ducks-- we're human beings.

Author's coping right out of the gates.
Yeah. Pretty much. I agree. But, not only that, the animals that are most similar to humans in the way they reproduce are also similar in the way they raise children.

Sir, this is a propaganda piece. I'm going to have to kindly ask you to take your science elsewhere

But I thought I was supposed to trust science. That's what they said for all of 2020 and 2021.
 
Yeah. Pretty much. I agree. But, not only that, the animals that are most similar to humans in the way they reproduce are also similar in the way they raise children.
Man, you're quick.

I deleted that comment after almost immediately realizing that the author was mainly making an observation and that he was also of the mind of stymieing single motherhood among humans.
 
It makes sense in a developmental way - when there is no alpha to live under, then the male naturally adapts to be the 'alpha'. However I feel like it's a strong initial curve upward but then plateauing. Better for low life spans/unstable ecosystems.

A son born in an environment under a father that stays around is going to naturally have to be stronger (and probably higher test) than the father in order to 'challenge' for the pack, IE lions, wolves, great apes, elephants. Lower initial curve but higher heights. Better for stability or long lived animals.
 
Something something blacks have higher T something something black dads abandon kids
 
Man, you're quick.

I deleted that comment after almost immediately realizing that the author was mainly making an observation and that he was also of the mind of stymieing single motherhood among humans.
Fair enough lol. Still, in the end, the important thing is, the author of this article is retarded.
 
I think this is propagandistic Science! crap.
 
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