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Now I'm unsure if I should be proud of doing this or not but I've been slowly working on a fanfic. After being disgusted at the 30 million door-stopping horrors the ever so infamous Loud House Revamped or E-Rated rape/vore/whatever monstrosity Satan himself gave birth on this world, I decided to go all in against these fucks.
This'll be (and will stick with the main two very hard) is a Fallout x Disney Animated Universe fic with some characters from other FPS Games I fondly enjoy playing like Team Fortress 2 before shit hitted the fan in 2017, Blood (1997), and Mafia 2.
The main "Fallout" aspect that'll drive this story along is it'll be based off my tortured 250 plugin modded New Vegas build (mostly QOL, HD Textures, Gameplay Changes, and quest additions THAT ISNT NSFW).
During a usual ambush with Legion assassins, a stray bullet by some crazed luck collided with the Big MT Transportalponder and sucked Courier Six (who's former a Disney background character but incredibly alcoholic), Raul, and Joshua Graham in the area Beauty and the Beast takes place.
Later on, the trio find out that not only were the three sucked in the Animated world, but the entire Mojave, NCR, Legion remnants and surrounding territories as well. Not the first to be done, I know, and as shown in other fandoms, but I'm making the exception here.
I laid out key rules when doing this like not making it overly confusing and autistic like the Loud House one is (I mean for fuck sakes it and the Sequel combined is 34 million words. What the fuck).
No harems or any lemons are going to be featured as I'll rather get run over by a freight train than do that for sick hony fucks (HOWEVER, light stuff will be mentioned because IT IS an M-Rated fic. Seriously the E-Rated shit on Archive of Our Own is just appalling.)
Violence will be mainly focused on how it plays out in Western films I watch like the Manco Series or in Fallout with Bloody Mess and Wild-Wasteland On.
And the biggest one that I'll be proud of doing is small Wild-Wasteland esque gags like Pooh speaking purely in Chinese or the usual stab at other fics as a whole.
Is this TMI and Retarded? Yes. But in my quest to combat this pile of shit, one must fight back and fight it hard. Wish me luck.
This'll be (and will stick with the main two very hard) is a Fallout x Disney Animated Universe fic with some characters from other FPS Games I fondly enjoy playing like Team Fortress 2 before shit hitted the fan in 2017, Blood (1997), and Mafia 2.
The main "Fallout" aspect that'll drive this story along is it'll be based off my tortured 250 plugin modded New Vegas build (mostly QOL, HD Textures, Gameplay Changes, and quest additions THAT ISNT NSFW).
During a usual ambush with Legion assassins, a stray bullet by some crazed luck collided with the Big MT Transportalponder and sucked Courier Six (who's former a Disney background character but incredibly alcoholic), Raul, and Joshua Graham in the area Beauty and the Beast takes place.
Later on, the trio find out that not only were the three sucked in the Animated world, but the entire Mojave, NCR, Legion remnants and surrounding territories as well. Not the first to be done, I know, and as shown in other fandoms, but I'm making the exception here.
I laid out key rules when doing this like not making it overly confusing and autistic like the Loud House one is (I mean for fuck sakes it and the Sequel combined is 34 million words. What the fuck).
No harems or any lemons are going to be featured as I'll rather get run over by a freight train than do that for sick hony fucks (HOWEVER, light stuff will be mentioned because IT IS an M-Rated fic. Seriously the E-Rated shit on Archive of Our Own is just appalling.)
Violence will be mainly focused on how it plays out in Western films I watch like the Manco Series or in Fallout with Bloody Mess and Wild-Wasteland On.
And the biggest one that I'll be proud of doing is small Wild-Wasteland esque gags like Pooh speaking purely in Chinese or the usual stab at other fics as a whole.
Is this TMI and Retarded? Yes. But in my quest to combat this pile of shit, one must fight back and fight it hard. Wish me luck.
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I mean this in the kindest way possible but just because you're not putting anything E-rated in there doesn't mean that a Fallout/Disney/TF2 crossover isn't autistic as fuck.
Anyone who writes fic with the intention of showing how they're better than someone else - whether it's other fic writers or the original authors of the franchise - inevitably proves themselves wrong.
Just write your fic, man. You don't need to "fight back". It's okay to just have fun.
Anyone who writes fic with the intention of showing how they're better than someone else - whether it's other fic writers or the original authors of the franchise - inevitably proves themselves wrong.
Just write your fic, man. You don't need to "fight back". It's okay to just have fun.
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I wanted to post this the other day but never got around to it. It's written by one of the members of the pooner Viktor clique, and is a friend of LemonMangoSorbet. I wanted to take a crack at one of her longer works, to see if it was any good. I was not disappointed by the tags. Link to fic. Archive.
Oh I wonder why you hate that word, my dear. Too much female connotation? We can't have that, now can we?
Usually I'm not fond of sex right in the first chapter because it often hits you like a ton of bricks. It's nice to have a bit of buildup before you get to the juicy bits, because it makes the wait worth so much more.
> Call themselves True and Honest Men
> Cannot for the life of them stop writing themselves as 'small and weak'
I know for a character, Viktor is not that big of a person. That's because he has a terminal illness. His wrists are actually decently sized for a man. Not so if you are a pooner. Words matter.
Yes, it's one of those fics. Bark.
For a sex scene it's almost too sweet to the point you'd get a cavity. While it's nice most authors don't write Jayce as a rapist, it's something when trans Viktor has to be coddled in every fucking story despite their insistence disabled people do not need to be coddled. "Let us have agency" they say. Well, it sure sounds like this dood doesn't have agency!
Yeah, I can see why mentions of female genitalia piss this author off. Reminds them of their 'weak' female bodies, as seen in the highlight.
"regulating emotions" is the very last thing I get from Viktor, thank you very much.
If these were actual gay men, there'd be no fucking tears or fears that the other guy is going to leave them. They'd just lie there and snore, or demand that they come back for seconds. The fact these fics are really suggestive on female psychology is almost a joke in of itself. Why do you need to be babied? You're a real man, aren't you?
Wow, that's an explosive ending for a rather meh sex scene. It's just there and it's gone.
So, let me get this straight: you just had a BDSM session based on 'casual' sex, and are wondering two chapters later if it's even casual. You don't even have that kind of sex to begin with without establishing some kind of common interest. Fucking Christ.
And yes, we get that Viktor is pretty. He also happens to be a real cunt in this fic, so he can fuck off.
> Keeps saying he wants to take care of Viktor and that he cares about Viktor's independence
> Viktor can't even cook for himself, let alone care for his own well being, because hurr stubborness
> Just Pooner Things TM
Viktor also acting shocked that Jayce is asking him to be his boyfriend is funny as fuck. You just had BDSM sex. You mean to tell me you had no connection before that? It was just on a whim? yeah okay buddy.
FOR FUCK'S SAKE, YOU JUST HAD BDSM SEX, WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DIDN'T KNOW?!
> Isn't a casual person
> Has casual BDSM sex
> Just...fuck off man
Why didn't you negotiate this before you had said BDSM sex? Would've made a lot more sense if you did. Because this is becoming unnecessarily complicated.
You're gonna kill me too at this rate.
You'll never guess what never actually happens: foreplay.
This dirty sex talk should've been saved for a better written scene - in a better written story.
In the very first chapter Viktor was fingered in a BDSM session. He should have an inkling of how big his fingers were - but it's dismissed with 'he wasn't paying attention'. This is a shitty excuse because all he had on was the Petsmart muzzle.
> has a big dick
> Doesn't bother with foreplay
> has to use lube
> T pussy too dry? (bonus content)
C'mon. The whole draw of this spicy straight sex is that you get the vagina owner nice and prepared before going in! Use some of that tongue action, Jayce, it's what you're known for.
> Isn't someone who values casual sex (as written in Chapter 2)
> Immediately retcons it by being a slut that values casual sex
> Wonders why their taste in men is poor
> Every iteration of trans!Viktor is a massive slut
> Freudian analysis? You betcha
Couldn't use that mouth of yours like you did in the first chapter, eh? Amateur.
Oh no no no, that's not how I saw it. You can't retcon your own internal logic when you make it pretty fucking clear in the first chapter that they had BDSM sex - negotiated and all - on a whim. Something like that isn't casual. Fucking in a bathroom is. If you wrote Viktor as being stressed out, AND someone who takes nothing casually, the BDSM sex should have come later. You can't write him as being a slut AND taking things seriously. We've got an Arcane Aella going loose here.
Good smut shuts off your brain, allowing you to indulge the moment. Bad smut leads to one picking apart every line and wondering about character's actions, especially how Viktor totally didn't know Jayce was in love with him despite being 'casually' fingerbanged. I think a good deal of commitment involves BDSM to begin with, don't you think?
I'll post the other chapters later, but for now, here are some comments:
"Man I love the psychology of these fics!"
Yeah, and it involves inconsistent characterization and a BPD pooner bitch. par the course. Also love the 'they will communicate, but later, because I don't need to get that out of the way immediately because drama'. Real gay men would just fuck and be done with it.
I also wanted to post this bit of commentary.
"It's like writing for toddlers"
If you don't have a villain facing consequences for their actions...why the fuck are they even a villain?
Oh I wonder why you hate that word, my dear. Too much female connotation? We can't have that, now can we?
Usually I'm not fond of sex right in the first chapter because it often hits you like a ton of bricks. It's nice to have a bit of buildup before you get to the juicy bits, because it makes the wait worth so much more.
> Call themselves True and Honest Men
> Cannot for the life of them stop writing themselves as 'small and weak'
I know for a character, Viktor is not that big of a person. That's because he has a terminal illness. His wrists are actually decently sized for a man. Not so if you are a pooner. Words matter.
Yes, it's one of those fics. Bark.
For a sex scene it's almost too sweet to the point you'd get a cavity. While it's nice most authors don't write Jayce as a rapist, it's something when trans Viktor has to be coddled in every fucking story despite their insistence disabled people do not need to be coddled. "Let us have agency" they say. Well, it sure sounds like this dood doesn't have agency!
Yeah, I can see why mentions of female genitalia piss this author off. Reminds them of their 'weak' female bodies, as seen in the highlight.
"regulating emotions" is the very last thing I get from Viktor, thank you very much.
If these were actual gay men, there'd be no fucking tears or fears that the other guy is going to leave them. They'd just lie there and snore, or demand that they come back for seconds. The fact these fics are really suggestive on female psychology is almost a joke in of itself. Why do you need to be babied? You're a real man, aren't you?
Wow, that's an explosive ending for a rather meh sex scene. It's just there and it's gone.
Get ready for an emotionally volatile Viktor who can't decide how he wants to act on a good day - or just your average pooner. I'll let you decide.
I would otherwise find this endearing were it not so on the nose. Viktor is a woman here; he's got issues out the wazoo and can't decide whether he enjoys being fingered or not. Peak BPD. Keep your dick out of crazy.
This is in-character for Viktor, but he'd also be a little bit of a smarmy shit especially if he had a good time. Since this is pooner Viktor, he 'doesn't want to be a bother' - which is how all transmen act. On the nose, as I've said.
> lacking in the emotional area
> Cries during sex for no explicit reason
> Is uncharacteristically icy and volatile
> Is generally unpleasant to be around
Yeah, that's not lacking. That's the whole IED packed under the hood.
Also, these retards need to retire the 'smol Viktor thing'. He is thin, yes. He is also of average male height. Jayce doesn't actually need to 'lean down' to talk to him because Viktor is only six inches shorter. This makes it seem he's 5'2 or some shit.
It's almost as if you have an emotionally volatile person who probably doesn't even like sex - or you - to begin with, but the author wants to gaslight it as being a heckin' wholesome and sexy relationship. This is what happens when you apply 'media criticism' to their works (and boy do they fucking complain). It just doesn't make sense.
If you're a True and Honest Man you'd straight up tell him you're Down To Fuck and there are no emotional attachments. That is how gay men are.
Also, "I'm not delicate. But treat me like I'm delicate or I'll be a moody bitch." Jayce's internal thoughts also confirm that yes, Viktor is someone who needs to be babied. Stop insulting your audience.
"I do not want you to feel incapable, but I'll treat you like a baby without any agency and hope that doesn't come off as insulting even though it does." For fuck's sake, just make the cripple the man he is and suck his dick. A real one, not that roided out clit.
If you are also anxious around your pooner...it's time to leave. Now.
> isn't a picky eater
> wants some of the most expensive dishes available
Lmao fuck off and eat concrete, you Kermit-the-frog sounding motherfucker. If you want me to view this Viktor as intelligent, sassy and the kind of person who will make you do what he wants, you can make him a little more cultured. Of course the pooner doesn't know how to even cook an egg.
Nah, it was about dissociation...or something. I haven't a clue, we haven't gotten into the inner workings of the pooner yet.
Or you can be a fucking REAL MAN and tell him what's going on. Stop being a catty brat. This is female coded behaviour. You are not a teenage girl - you are an adult. Act like one. You consented to this 'scene'; you don't get to have second feelings about it. A real man would've sucked and fucked and be done with it.
"Fellas, is it gay to like pussy?" - AO3 pooners
Leave it to the black woman who is getting cucked to speak on behalf of the transman. Really laying down the law there, dood.
No, she's being concerned for you, you absolute cunt. The author is trying really hard to make Viktor relatable when all he does is come off as the most irritating son of a bitch ever. I'd throw this Viktor down the reactor shaft.
Pooners being helpless in an actual man's arms, name a better duo. And yes, it IS hypocritical because you are passing off one character as being fully independent when he isn't because...uh, BDSM etiquette? Okay.
He needs caviar, you peon.
Oh that's very helpful. Least fellow pooner Hexhomos can tell me all about how they're gay in extensive detail.
I would otherwise find this endearing were it not so on the nose. Viktor is a woman here; he's got issues out the wazoo and can't decide whether he enjoys being fingered or not. Peak BPD. Keep your dick out of crazy.
This is in-character for Viktor, but he'd also be a little bit of a smarmy shit especially if he had a good time. Since this is pooner Viktor, he 'doesn't want to be a bother' - which is how all transmen act. On the nose, as I've said.
> lacking in the emotional area
> Cries during sex for no explicit reason
> Is uncharacteristically icy and volatile
> Is generally unpleasant to be around
Yeah, that's not lacking. That's the whole IED packed under the hood.
Also, these retards need to retire the 'smol Viktor thing'. He is thin, yes. He is also of average male height. Jayce doesn't actually need to 'lean down' to talk to him because Viktor is only six inches shorter. This makes it seem he's 5'2 or some shit.
It's almost as if you have an emotionally volatile person who probably doesn't even like sex - or you - to begin with, but the author wants to gaslight it as being a heckin' wholesome and sexy relationship. This is what happens when you apply 'media criticism' to their works (and boy do they fucking complain). It just doesn't make sense.
If you're a True and Honest Man you'd straight up tell him you're Down To Fuck and there are no emotional attachments. That is how gay men are.
Also, "I'm not delicate. But treat me like I'm delicate or I'll be a moody bitch." Jayce's internal thoughts also confirm that yes, Viktor is someone who needs to be babied. Stop insulting your audience.
"I do not want you to feel incapable, but I'll treat you like a baby without any agency and hope that doesn't come off as insulting even though it does." For fuck's sake, just make the cripple the man he is and suck his dick. A real one, not that roided out clit.
If you are also anxious around your pooner...it's time to leave. Now.
> isn't a picky eater
> wants some of the most expensive dishes available
Lmao fuck off and eat concrete, you Kermit-the-frog sounding motherfucker. If you want me to view this Viktor as intelligent, sassy and the kind of person who will make you do what he wants, you can make him a little more cultured. Of course the pooner doesn't know how to even cook an egg.
Nah, it was about dissociation...or something. I haven't a clue, we haven't gotten into the inner workings of the pooner yet.
Or you can be a fucking REAL MAN and tell him what's going on. Stop being a catty brat. This is female coded behaviour. You are not a teenage girl - you are an adult. Act like one. You consented to this 'scene'; you don't get to have second feelings about it. A real man would've sucked and fucked and be done with it.
"Fellas, is it gay to like pussy?" - AO3 pooners
Leave it to the black woman who is getting cucked to speak on behalf of the transman. Really laying down the law there, dood.
No, she's being concerned for you, you absolute cunt. The author is trying really hard to make Viktor relatable when all he does is come off as the most irritating son of a bitch ever. I'd throw this Viktor down the reactor shaft.
Pooners being helpless in an actual man's arms, name a better duo. And yes, it IS hypocritical because you are passing off one character as being fully independent when he isn't because...uh, BDSM etiquette? Okay.
He needs caviar, you peon.
Oh that's very helpful. Least fellow pooner Hexhomos can tell me all about how they're gay in extensive detail.
So, let me get this straight: you just had a BDSM session based on 'casual' sex, and are wondering two chapters later if it's even casual. You don't even have that kind of sex to begin with without establishing some kind of common interest. Fucking Christ.
And yes, we get that Viktor is pretty. He also happens to be a real cunt in this fic, so he can fuck off.
> Keeps saying he wants to take care of Viktor and that he cares about Viktor's independence
> Viktor can't even cook for himself, let alone care for his own well being, because hurr stubborness
> Just Pooner Things TM
Viktor also acting shocked that Jayce is asking him to be his boyfriend is funny as fuck. You just had BDSM sex. You mean to tell me you had no connection before that? It was just on a whim? yeah okay buddy.
FOR FUCK'S SAKE, YOU JUST HAD BDSM SEX, WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DIDN'T KNOW?!
> Isn't a casual person
> Has casual BDSM sex
> Just...fuck off man
Why didn't you negotiate this before you had said BDSM sex? Would've made a lot more sense if you did. Because this is becoming unnecessarily complicated.
You're gonna kill me too at this rate.
You'll never guess what never actually happens: foreplay.
This dirty sex talk should've been saved for a better written scene - in a better written story.
In the very first chapter Viktor was fingered in a BDSM session. He should have an inkling of how big his fingers were - but it's dismissed with 'he wasn't paying attention'. This is a shitty excuse because all he had on was the Petsmart muzzle.
> has a big dick
> Doesn't bother with foreplay
> has to use lube
> T pussy too dry? (bonus content)
C'mon. The whole draw of this spicy straight sex is that you get the vagina owner nice and prepared before going in! Use some of that tongue action, Jayce, it's what you're known for.
> Isn't someone who values casual sex (as written in Chapter 2)
> Immediately retcons it by being a slut that values casual sex
> Wonders why their taste in men is poor
> Every iteration of trans!Viktor is a massive slut
> Freudian analysis? You betcha
Couldn't use that mouth of yours like you did in the first chapter, eh? Amateur.
Oh no no no, that's not how I saw it. You can't retcon your own internal logic when you make it pretty fucking clear in the first chapter that they had BDSM sex - negotiated and all - on a whim. Something like that isn't casual. Fucking in a bathroom is. If you wrote Viktor as being stressed out, AND someone who takes nothing casually, the BDSM sex should have come later. You can't write him as being a slut AND taking things seriously. We've got an Arcane Aella going loose here.
Good smut shuts off your brain, allowing you to indulge the moment. Bad smut leads to one picking apart every line and wondering about character's actions, especially how Viktor totally didn't know Jayce was in love with him despite being 'casually' fingerbanged. I think a good deal of commitment involves BDSM to begin with, don't you think?
I'll post the other chapters later, but for now, here are some comments:
I've said before I don't give a damn about shipping wars - if the fic is good, and well written, I'll give it a go no matter who's involved. But one of the main reasons Viktor is a 'bottom' is because he's a twink. He's seldom written as a bitchy one, though, more of the 'you'll give me what I want, when I want it, exactly the way I want it to go' type of character. Jayce just does whatever is asked of him (of course, with the S2 leaks, expect feral content starring Punished!Jayce). Subby Viktor is just him being a bitch without agency.
"Man I love the psychology of these fics!"
Yeah, and it involves inconsistent characterization and a BPD pooner bitch. par the course. Also love the 'they will communicate, but later, because I don't need to get that out of the way immediately because drama'. Real gay men would just fuck and be done with it.
I also wanted to post this bit of commentary.
"It's like writing for toddlers"
If you don't have a villain facing consequences for their actions...why the fuck are they even a villain?
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Other than the orphan account, it's all different authors. Amazing.
eta: I have been mulling it over, and I need reasons not to buy a wooden paddle and woodburn "COFFEE SHOP AU" onto it.
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This is a continuation of the fic 'Silence'. Other installments can be viewed ITT.
Yes, you need a content warning for the use of 'whore', while you're fine writing graphic porn. Pick a struggle.
He has decided to have this celebration after negotiating BDSM sex. It never occurred to him once that Viktor agreeing to it might have something to do with personal feelings. This is all the cutesy 'we fucked, but now we're emotional' turn of the plot, and it gets remarkably vanilla afterwards.
Jayce isn't being pretentious here, so why the 'pretentious' accusation? He's legitimately curious.
I did like this little tidbit. Mostly because it's something Viktor would actually do. So far, though, like all fics where he's made a trans man, he has to be constantly defended by the actual man. Funny how that works.
Progshits don't know how to write actual racism, because they're afraid of being offensive. We have a stereotypical nameless bigot who mocks Viktor for being a cripple, even though he's the co-founder of Hextech. Progshits also cannot write good villains unless they are already served on a platter for them (such as Silco), and they become laughably predictable.
That's an error on the author's part - they meant to write Jayce saying that, because it sounds like Viktor is talking in the third person.
"Don't stoop to their level" says the emotional brat who, last chapter, couldn't decide whether he liked the sex or not. Don't fuck BPDs, people.
If you want an actual villain, you can have him actually be racist. Make a reference to Viktor's bad leg or something, or ask him if he can run. Say a line that's unbelievably petty. Unless, of course, this is another bait and switch?
"DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM? DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY I HAVE?!"
"Sir, this is a Wendy's."
No, he didn't. He has plenty of witnesses of the guy being belligerent, and he can easily explain to Heimerdinger and Mel what happened. He could make a speech about how 'bigotry has no place here' or some shit. I don't care how it's done, but for God's sake, make it sound plausible.
Oh, that's very delightful to hear.
We've got 'vanilla sex' for this one.
For some reason, certain authors write Jayce as being autistic or having 'anxiety issues', as if he didn't just punch a guy in the fucking face for insulting his partner. He's so overly emotional it's borderline offensive, all because he did something readers knew he was in the right for. Viktor being scared is, well, pretty fucking telling, because pooners always live their lives being scared of others. If he was a True and Honest Man, why doesn't he offer any proper solutions?
But wait - there's more. Here's how Heimerdinger treats them.
That's fucking right. He's blaming them for the actions of a bigot.
'You have joint responsibility' - no, they fucking don't, because Viktor isn't the one at fault. Nice victim blaming the trans man, very progressive. And if it was about 'facts', you'd ask for more evidence you fucking lawn gnome. Least the author admits -subtly - that this doesn't make any fucking sense.
There were witnesses and people can attest the guy was being a dickhead. Maybe telling Heimerdinger that a Zaunite getting shit from a random Piltie doesn't look good on behalf of 'blind scientific progress', but noooooooooo we have to deal with this hamfisted shit.
And it gets even better:
That's fucking right: the token black character's only character trait is acting like a snobby, uppity black bitch at the DMV.
It's also none of her fucking business, but she's pissed that the white cock - excuse me, pussy - won't come near her. No colonization today, Shanequa.
> Be a true and honest man
> Your hobby is keeping plants, something transmen are known for, outing you as a woman
> Do not realize this
Just keep laughing.
Yes, and what the fuck is it doing here? Character development?
> Speaks the language of his mother
> doesn't know what it is or where it comes from
> Never bothered to ask, even though you'd think the mother would tell him for national pride
It's just that stupid, okay?
Once again with the 'uwu smol trans boy' thing. It's such a tell it's almost laughably easily to find now. The man is sick, he's not that fucking tiny. And his hands are only slightly smaller than Jayce's, thank you very much.
This is just spicy straight sex. You cannot convince me otherwise.
He's also a catty, BPD bitch...but I guess a bit of dick changes that, eh?
You had BDSM sex in the first chapter, remember? Might've been a good time to do that before you instigated that kind of scenario.
Get it? Because he's so uwu smol and can be picked up like a doll! Lil dood is like 5'2, you can't convince me otherwise.
I thought this Viktor was a slut who jumped on any cock he could? Or am I forgetting something? Because it's par the course for the pooner to do that and decide that sweetheart Jayce is 'the one'. I thought he never had casual sex? Now my almonds are activated.
> Be a real man
> get head
> Cry afterwards because of emotional inadequacy
Need a tissue?
Son, you have a mood disorder. If you're having 'emotions day' while being a manchild, that's not at all attractive. Progshits really need to learn that emotional disorders are called that for a reason. They are a nightmare in real life.
Token black character being The Help? Say it ain't so.
He's getting upset over an equation he's been slaving over. Normal autistic men would either stick a fork in a toaster or go masturbate to porn, not literally cry buckets of tears. Again: mood. disorder. If you are sobbing like a small child, it's time to go home.
I don't know why this character is so emotional; EVERYONE here is an absolute bitch. How hard is it to write porn that's actually fun? This a Porn With Plot, is it not? So make it fun!
Maybe you should've discussed this before the BDSM in the first chapter, you retard. Get that out of the way. God, get these 'men' some cheap Coors Lite and call it a day.
Viktor being rational is just a part of his character; everyone being catty in need of a Mr. Lahey hard liquour campaign is not. If you have abandonment issues, that's on you.
I wouldn't be energized by an emotional wreck like that, but that's just me. Some people will really throw that away for a good dicking.
Yep, that's all Jayce was crying over: not carrying over a three.
Yeah, I can tell. Otherwise, Viktor would remain the MALE he is and this would probably be a dumb, sappy story not worth my time or interest. As it stands, it happens to be an angsty pooner fic, so that's why it's here. How fucking hard is it to let male characters keep their dicks?
Yes, you need a content warning for the use of 'whore', while you're fine writing graphic porn. Pick a struggle.
He has decided to have this celebration after negotiating BDSM sex. It never occurred to him once that Viktor agreeing to it might have something to do with personal feelings. This is all the cutesy 'we fucked, but now we're emotional' turn of the plot, and it gets remarkably vanilla afterwards.
Jayce isn't being pretentious here, so why the 'pretentious' accusation? He's legitimately curious.
I did like this little tidbit. Mostly because it's something Viktor would actually do. So far, though, like all fics where he's made a trans man, he has to be constantly defended by the actual man. Funny how that works.
Progshits don't know how to write actual racism, because they're afraid of being offensive. We have a stereotypical nameless bigot who mocks Viktor for being a cripple, even though he's the co-founder of Hextech. Progshits also cannot write good villains unless they are already served on a platter for them (such as Silco), and they become laughably predictable.
That's an error on the author's part - they meant to write Jayce saying that, because it sounds like Viktor is talking in the third person.
"Don't stoop to their level" says the emotional brat who, last chapter, couldn't decide whether he liked the sex or not. Don't fuck BPDs, people.
If you want an actual villain, you can have him actually be racist. Make a reference to Viktor's bad leg or something, or ask him if he can run. Say a line that's unbelievably petty. Unless, of course, this is another bait and switch?
"DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM? DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY I HAVE?!"
"Sir, this is a Wendy's."
No, he didn't. He has plenty of witnesses of the guy being belligerent, and he can easily explain to Heimerdinger and Mel what happened. He could make a speech about how 'bigotry has no place here' or some shit. I don't care how it's done, but for God's sake, make it sound plausible.
Oh, that's very delightful to hear.
We've got 'vanilla sex' for this one.
For some reason, certain authors write Jayce as being autistic or having 'anxiety issues', as if he didn't just punch a guy in the fucking face for insulting his partner. He's so overly emotional it's borderline offensive, all because he did something readers knew he was in the right for. Viktor being scared is, well, pretty fucking telling, because pooners always live their lives being scared of others. If he was a True and Honest Man, why doesn't he offer any proper solutions?
But wait - there's more. Here's how Heimerdinger treats them.
That's fucking right. He's blaming them for the actions of a bigot.
'You have joint responsibility' - no, they fucking don't, because Viktor isn't the one at fault. Nice victim blaming the trans man, very progressive. And if it was about 'facts', you'd ask for more evidence you fucking lawn gnome. Least the author admits -subtly - that this doesn't make any fucking sense.
There were witnesses and people can attest the guy was being a dickhead. Maybe telling Heimerdinger that a Zaunite getting shit from a random Piltie doesn't look good on behalf of 'blind scientific progress', but noooooooooo we have to deal with this hamfisted shit.
And it gets even better:
That's fucking right: the token black character's only character trait is acting like a snobby, uppity black bitch at the DMV.
It's also none of her fucking business, but she's pissed that the white cock - excuse me, pussy - won't come near her. No colonization today, Shanequa.
> Be a true and honest man
> Your hobby is keeping plants, something transmen are known for, outing you as a woman
> Do not realize this
Just keep laughing.
Yes, and what the fuck is it doing here? Character development?
> Speaks the language of his mother
> doesn't know what it is or where it comes from
> Never bothered to ask, even though you'd think the mother would tell him for national pride
It's just that stupid, okay?
Once again with the 'uwu smol trans boy' thing. It's such a tell it's almost laughably easily to find now. The man is sick, he's not that fucking tiny. And his hands are only slightly smaller than Jayce's, thank you very much.
This is just spicy straight sex. You cannot convince me otherwise.
He's also a catty, BPD bitch...but I guess a bit of dick changes that, eh?
You had BDSM sex in the first chapter, remember? Might've been a good time to do that before you instigated that kind of scenario.
Get it? Because he's so uwu smol and can be picked up like a doll! Lil dood is like 5'2, you can't convince me otherwise.
I thought this Viktor was a slut who jumped on any cock he could? Or am I forgetting something? Because it's par the course for the pooner to do that and decide that sweetheart Jayce is 'the one'. I thought he never had casual sex? Now my almonds are activated.
> Be a real man
> get head
> Cry afterwards because of emotional inadequacy
Need a tissue?
Son, you have a mood disorder. If you're having 'emotions day' while being a manchild, that's not at all attractive. Progshits really need to learn that emotional disorders are called that for a reason. They are a nightmare in real life.
Token black character being The Help? Say it ain't so.
He's getting upset over an equation he's been slaving over. Normal autistic men would either stick a fork in a toaster or go masturbate to porn, not literally cry buckets of tears. Again: mood. disorder. If you are sobbing like a small child, it's time to go home.
I don't know why this character is so emotional; EVERYONE here is an absolute bitch. How hard is it to write porn that's actually fun? This a Porn With Plot, is it not? So make it fun!
Maybe you should've discussed this before the BDSM in the first chapter, you retard. Get that out of the way. God, get these 'men' some cheap Coors Lite and call it a day.
Viktor being rational is just a part of his character; everyone being catty in need of a Mr. Lahey hard liquour campaign is not. If you have abandonment issues, that's on you.
I wouldn't be energized by an emotional wreck like that, but that's just me. Some people will really throw that away for a good dicking.
Yep, that's all Jayce was crying over: not carrying over a three.
Yeah, I can tell. Otherwise, Viktor would remain the MALE he is and this would probably be a dumb, sappy story not worth my time or interest. As it stands, it happens to be an angsty pooner fic, so that's why it's here. How fucking hard is it to let male characters keep their dicks?
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This is the guy that's currently dominating the Kamen Rider crossover section down at FF.net.
This is his writing style.
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People have brought up that fandom has become more commercialized. Look no further than hambeast "SharkNoises", a deaf classic car collector who isn't being called out off of profiting off fanfic. If she posted this shit on AO3 she'd be banned.
Are you that fucking broke, to demand money for a medium that you're NOT supposed to make money on?
I also read her full fic, "Show Me How You Drive, I'll Show You Who You Are" which was supposed to have Fast and the Furious elements. It doesn't. It's actually pretty fucking lame, but she sold it on the fact Pooner Soap's transphobic dad got punched.
Are you that fucking broke, to demand money for a medium that you're NOT supposed to make money on?
I also read her full fic, "Show Me How You Drive, I'll Show You Who You Are" which was supposed to have Fast and the Furious elements. It doesn't. It's actually pretty fucking lame, but she sold it on the fact Pooner Soap's transphobic dad got punched.
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A number of fanfiction writers have patreon and subscribe star linked to their works. Granted, they're also published authors with original works of their own.
Unless the story was really good, then idiots like this bitch are just peddling garbage.
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I don't think fanfiction commissions are any more objectionable than fanart commissions. Unless you're talking about some super niche indie fandom where every dollar counts, it's pretty much impossible to generate enough revenue off of it to hurt the franchise's bottom line. (The more people who do this in a fandom, the more of a juggernaut IP it is like some big Disney franchise - they're gonna be fine - plus the commissioners are 1. the same type of people to spend tons of money on official merch anyway 2. looking for specific content that no respectable IP would put out on their own, so it's not like they're spending money that would have otherwise gone to the franchise owners.) It's good at scale for AO3 to ban this, mostly for AO3's sake, but individual writers and arists scattered across hundreds or thousands of different fandoms are harmless, imo.
Of course, whether it's fanart or fanfic, you still run into the problem of: If someone is good enough to justify charging money in a fandom sphere, most likely they have a real job (or their own IP) and don't need to charge money. So opening commissions specifically for fan stuff is basically just Dunning-Kruger with bonus yaoi. It self selects for the feckless and arrogant.
Anyway, that doesn't detract from the criticism of fandom being commercialized in general. Especially since the primary defense for fanficcers/fanartists getting shat on is still "We're doing this for free!!!!!!"
Also, those prices are insane. $10 for 10k words? That's one tenth of a cent per word. Do you have any idea how long it takes to write 10k words? I can write 6-7k a day on a good day (average is more like 4-5k) and I'm considered obscenely fast. NaNoWriMo is considered grueling and your word goal is a bit over 1.5k daily. Professional writers (newspapers, blogs, etc) usually clock 3k a day. (Source: I've done NaNoWriMo and I used to work for a print magazine.) For $10/10k you'd be working for practically pennies an hour. The only way it's economical to charge $10 for 10k is if you're using ChatGPT or have some kind of pre-written generic smut story that you just MadLibs character names into.
Edit: I'm really bad at math
Of course, whether it's fanart or fanfic, you still run into the problem of: If someone is good enough to justify charging money in a fandom sphere, most likely they have a real job (or their own IP) and don't need to charge money. So opening commissions specifically for fan stuff is basically just Dunning-Kruger with bonus yaoi. It self selects for the feckless and arrogant.
Anyway, that doesn't detract from the criticism of fandom being commercialized in general. Especially since the primary defense for fanficcers/fanartists getting shat on is still "We're doing this for free!!!!!!"
Also, those prices are insane. $10 for 10k words? That's one tenth of a cent per word. Do you have any idea how long it takes to write 10k words? I can write 6-7k a day on a good day (average is more like 4-5k) and I'm considered obscenely fast. NaNoWriMo is considered grueling and your word goal is a bit over 1.5k daily. Professional writers (newspapers, blogs, etc) usually clock 3k a day. (Source: I've done NaNoWriMo and I used to work for a print magazine.) For $10/10k you'd be working for practically pennies an hour. The only way it's economical to charge $10 for 10k is if you're using ChatGPT or have some kind of pre-written generic smut story that you just MadLibs character names into.
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My best is four. Five, if I've got time and my brain isn't clouded.
To be honest, I thought I was the only one with trouble meeting that many a day when some authors churn out 20k every two to three days. That was before I realized that they likely don't have lives, unemployed, are severely autistic, or all of the above.
They also don't proofread shit.
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Here is the last installment of 'Silence'. The author would like you to know she is doing this for Gaza.
I've pointed this out before, but once you notice the size dynamics between the trans man and the actual man you will never unsee it. The transman is always smaller, weaker, and frail; and even though Viktor is all of these things, he's not /that/ much smaller than Jayce. His hands are roughly the same size, for one. Two, Viktor has acted like an adult man for most of this fic. He's been babyfied this entire time.
Glad Jayce is in one of his good emotional days. Otherwise I'd have thought he would've started crying over nothing already.
Eh, not really. He has multiple breakdowns over the simplest things, and routinely has anxiety attacks over nothing. He's very moody. The author does not seem to understand that constant panic =/= stable mental health. That shit is crippling.
Of course the pooner feels at their best when they have a muzzle around them. They can't even stand their ground against other men.
There is a lot of talk about being 'safe' in these fics, as if these adults cannot handle anything more than an equation going awry (and from previous chapters, they can't handle that either). Who are they feel safe FROM? Why do you need a safe space? Questions must be answered.
I would've expected a better sex scene to lead to that 'fucked out of your brain' look.
Get it? Because he's an itty bitty trans boy who's just living his life and has great gay sex - erm, penis in vagina sex. Have some sappy dialogue to cope.
Because you have no body fat. I doubt all those T shots help. In case you're wondering, no - it's never answered in these stories where they get their testosterone injections. Probably the warehouse where Shimmer is stored.
"My body is uncooperative" - mm, I'm sure those T injections are helping your liver immensely, my dood.
You'll notice that these characters blush A LOT, even when the scene doesn't really call for it. We're supposed to see these idiots as helplessly in love and can't wait to fuck, but even the body language is weird. I just don't see the attraction.
In fanfic, authors usually write Jayce as 6'7, when he's actually 6'2. This is done to make Viktor look a foot shorter, when he's only six inches shorter. Jayce being the large male is also on the nose as well; you can easily clock who has the cock here.
Can't tell if 'baldly play' is a play on words, but eh, interesting typo, I suppose.
And there is the mastectomy scar reference! Those 'cute' little lines underneath the breasts, because surgeons in Piltover can't even get those right (but they can hammer fake plates into someone's back). Good to see he got the botched SRS like all the specimens in the SRS thread. A real Gruffin.
> Has never actively sought touch
> First scene was a BDSM scene
> Bruh
Should've waited until this was hammered out before using the BDSM card, just saying. Makes it all the more worthwhile.
That's right: this guy is SOBBING because he got shampoo in his eyes. I get that shit hurts like hell, but SOBBING? What, did you pour acid in there? C'mon man! You got a hunk soaping you up. Now is not the time for a mental breakdown!
It's still not enough to fix that asshole behaviour, though:
Not enough to not pour shampoo in the lil dood's eyes, that's for sure.
Haha get it? The FTM is making a 'your mom' joke! Ask her if she enjoyed that three inch dick. I'm sure if she pretended it was huge, it'd become valid, just like you saying you're a man, eh?
What a way to make physical touch seem so arduous. All this asking makes me think Viktor is a live wire. Is he gonna snap like a pit bull, or something?
Ah, there's that FTM desire of not wanting to trouble males. Never fails. A real man would take that massage like a pro.
Also, how is it cheating? You're in a relationship, are you not?
Oh but it gets better. Viktor, after having a nice massage, falls asleep. When he finds out how long he slept, he has a full blown FTM tard rage meltdown:
"I AM AN ADULT MAN! HOW DARE YOU LET ME SLEEP A FEW HOURS WHEN I AM CLEARLY SUFFERING FROM EXHAUSTION! YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE, I WISH I COULD FUCKING STAB YOU!"
If you aren't a child...why you having a T tantrum, lil dood? Calm down, have a drink of coffee, eat some ice cream. Take a shit, you know the drill.
> Jayce voices a valid concern on Viktor not taking care of himself
> Viktor, in true FTM fashion, freaks the fuck out and insists HE IS AN ADULT and he will not be treated as a child, even though he has acted like a child this entire time
> Says he's independent and yet doesn't act like it
> Says he's an adult yet doesn't act like it
> Has to be bossed around by a sassy black woman
> Just Dood Things
All Jayce has done this entire fic is be concerned over Viktor's health. So while Viktor IS right here, the tard rage was uncalled for. You are both acting retarded. Stop it.
Sky's only personality trait is to act like an uppity black bitch. Progshits being more racist than Stormfront members, news at 11.
Has she considered getting a job at the DMV?
Must be one of his emotional days. I will never get over how fucking stupid that is, btw.
Of course the father is a transphobe. What a predictable twist! And of course he troons out because of child abuse. That tracks, too.
If you have noticed that the dialogue almost sounds Reddit-tier...you would be write. These people talk as if they're in a TikTok scripted video, with pure fear of sounding offensive. Of course Jayce would be okay with Viktor being a pooner - we can't have the main man be a scary transphobe - but everyone talks as if they're on a progshit script. Nothing sounds natural.
> Had a total sperg out on how he doesn't want to be taken care of or treated as a child
> Is OK with it after breakfast
> Logic
I actually love reading good massages. This is not one of them. I'm expecting a consent checklist or some shit.
Did we not just have a total FTM meltdown over Jayce not treating Viktor like a True and Honest Man? Sounds like we forgot about that little outburst.
Yes, there is a blowjob scene in this fic. Like the rest of the smut, it's painfully underwhelming.
Where'd he get the -ahem- carnal knowledge? Inquiring minds want to know.
Told you it goes by fast. I would've never thought Jayce got his brains blown out unless you told me.
We're on the final stretch, now. Get ready.
Reminder this little charity event barely raised over $2000. They care more about sandniggers than their own people.
Sounds a little bit colonialist to force your Western LGBT values on a pseudo nation and people that don't want it, eh?
I've pointed this out before, but once you notice the size dynamics between the trans man and the actual man you will never unsee it. The transman is always smaller, weaker, and frail; and even though Viktor is all of these things, he's not /that/ much smaller than Jayce. His hands are roughly the same size, for one. Two, Viktor has acted like an adult man for most of this fic. He's been babyfied this entire time.
Glad Jayce is in one of his good emotional days. Otherwise I'd have thought he would've started crying over nothing already.
Eh, not really. He has multiple breakdowns over the simplest things, and routinely has anxiety attacks over nothing. He's very moody. The author does not seem to understand that constant panic =/= stable mental health. That shit is crippling.
Of course the pooner feels at their best when they have a muzzle around them. They can't even stand their ground against other men.
There is a lot of talk about being 'safe' in these fics, as if these adults cannot handle anything more than an equation going awry (and from previous chapters, they can't handle that either). Who are they feel safe FROM? Why do you need a safe space? Questions must be answered.
There's another smut scene, but so far this author's smut is actually incredibly underwhelming. You can yawn right through it and not miss a thing.
Again with the hand thing. if you actually examine their scenes together, their hands are almost the same size. This is just done to highlight how small FTM Viktor is.
And lol at the 'easy obedience' thing. Pooners can't even dom in their own smut. You hate to see it.
No, he needs a shock collar. For attitude adjustment.
And that's pretty much it. As far as trans Viktor smut goes - and some of it can get pretty fucking long - this is boring. Even if it was straight (well, it is, but treat me for a moment) or run of the mill gay sex (which the author thinks it is) this would be like watching paint dry. Where's the passion?
Because he's itty bitty, get it?
What a vanilla BDSM scene. I expected more trashy sex talk.
Again with the hand thing. if you actually examine their scenes together, their hands are almost the same size. This is just done to highlight how small FTM Viktor is.
And lol at the 'easy obedience' thing. Pooners can't even dom in their own smut. You hate to see it.
No, he needs a shock collar. For attitude adjustment.
And that's pretty much it. As far as trans Viktor smut goes - and some of it can get pretty fucking long - this is boring. Even if it was straight (well, it is, but treat me for a moment) or run of the mill gay sex (which the author thinks it is) this would be like watching paint dry. Where's the passion?
Because he's itty bitty, get it?
What a vanilla BDSM scene. I expected more trashy sex talk.
I would've expected a better sex scene to lead to that 'fucked out of your brain' look.
Get it? Because he's an itty bitty trans boy who's just living his life and has great gay sex - erm, penis in vagina sex. Have some sappy dialogue to cope.
Because you have no body fat. I doubt all those T shots help. In case you're wondering, no - it's never answered in these stories where they get their testosterone injections. Probably the warehouse where Shimmer is stored.
"My body is uncooperative" - mm, I'm sure those T injections are helping your liver immensely, my dood.
You'll notice that these characters blush A LOT, even when the scene doesn't really call for it. We're supposed to see these idiots as helplessly in love and can't wait to fuck, but even the body language is weird. I just don't see the attraction.
In fanfic, authors usually write Jayce as 6'7, when he's actually 6'2. This is done to make Viktor look a foot shorter, when he's only six inches shorter. Jayce being the large male is also on the nose as well; you can easily clock who has the cock here.
Can't tell if 'baldly play' is a play on words, but eh, interesting typo, I suppose.
And there is the mastectomy scar reference! Those 'cute' little lines underneath the breasts, because surgeons in Piltover can't even get those right (but they can hammer fake plates into someone's back). Good to see he got the botched SRS like all the specimens in the SRS thread. A real Gruffin.
> Has never actively sought touch
> First scene was a BDSM scene
> Bruh
Should've waited until this was hammered out before using the BDSM card, just saying. Makes it all the more worthwhile.
That's right: this guy is SOBBING because he got shampoo in his eyes. I get that shit hurts like hell, but SOBBING? What, did you pour acid in there? C'mon man! You got a hunk soaping you up. Now is not the time for a mental breakdown!
It's still not enough to fix that asshole behaviour, though:
Not enough to not pour shampoo in the lil dood's eyes, that's for sure.
Haha get it? The FTM is making a 'your mom' joke! Ask her if she enjoyed that three inch dick. I'm sure if she pretended it was huge, it'd become valid, just like you saying you're a man, eh?
What a way to make physical touch seem so arduous. All this asking makes me think Viktor is a live wire. Is he gonna snap like a pit bull, or something?
Ah, there's that FTM desire of not wanting to trouble males. Never fails. A real man would take that massage like a pro.
Also, how is it cheating? You're in a relationship, are you not?
Oh but it gets better. Viktor, after having a nice massage, falls asleep. When he finds out how long he slept, he has a full blown FTM tard rage meltdown:
"I AM AN ADULT MAN! HOW DARE YOU LET ME SLEEP A FEW HOURS WHEN I AM CLEARLY SUFFERING FROM EXHAUSTION! YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE, I WISH I COULD FUCKING STAB YOU!"
If you aren't a child...why you having a T tantrum, lil dood? Calm down, have a drink of coffee, eat some ice cream. Take a shit, you know the drill.
> Jayce voices a valid concern on Viktor not taking care of himself
> Viktor, in true FTM fashion, freaks the fuck out and insists HE IS AN ADULT and he will not be treated as a child, even though he has acted like a child this entire time
> Says he's independent and yet doesn't act like it
> Says he's an adult yet doesn't act like it
> Has to be bossed around by a sassy black woman
> Just Dood Things
All Jayce has done this entire fic is be concerned over Viktor's health. So while Viktor IS right here, the tard rage was uncalled for. You are both acting retarded. Stop it.
Sky's only personality trait is to act like an uppity black bitch. Progshits being more racist than Stormfront members, news at 11.
Has she considered getting a job at the DMV?
Must be one of his emotional days. I will never get over how fucking stupid that is, btw.
Of course the father is a transphobe. What a predictable twist! And of course he troons out because of child abuse. That tracks, too.
If you have noticed that the dialogue almost sounds Reddit-tier...you would be write. These people talk as if they're in a TikTok scripted video, with pure fear of sounding offensive. Of course Jayce would be okay with Viktor being a pooner - we can't have the main man be a scary transphobe - but everyone talks as if they're on a progshit script. Nothing sounds natural.
> Had a total sperg out on how he doesn't want to be taken care of or treated as a child
> Is OK with it after breakfast
> Logic
I actually love reading good massages. This is not one of them. I'm expecting a consent checklist or some shit.
Did we not just have a total FTM meltdown over Jayce not treating Viktor like a True and Honest Man? Sounds like we forgot about that little outburst.
Yes, there is a blowjob scene in this fic. Like the rest of the smut, it's painfully underwhelming.
Where'd he get the -ahem- carnal knowledge? Inquiring minds want to know.
Told you it goes by fast. I would've never thought Jayce got his brains blown out unless you told me.
We're on the final stretch, now. Get ready.
This is short, don't worry.
Yup, that's the love confession. It gets even better: they all start pissing and crying themselves over it.
Calm down, Jayce. It's a love confession, not a murder. Yes, you are overreacting. Are you having an emotional day? Sounds like it.
Of course you did. That's why there were a bunch of emotional days and 'checking ins' as if we're dealing with a Chernobyl reactor.
I have mentioned before that not only do progshits not know how to be offensive, they can't really write genuine romance either. The romance, if you could call it that, was temperamental; it felt like I was in the mind of a manic depressive who couldn't decide what they wanted. We had total troon meltdowns and a pooner yelling about how I AM A TRUE AND HONEST MAN, STOP TREATING ME LIKE A CHILD before calming down a paragraph later and saying it was fine. Of course they're crying and shitting and weeping and what the fuck not because they're just so emotional, God dammit.
Lmao @ "he'd rather minimize sobbing over his homosexuality." Fellas, is it gay to eat pussy? Apparently so if you're dating a 'vagina man' with a volatile personality. least you can say the characterization of a trans man is down pat: emotionally volatile, indecisive, doesn't want to be treated like a child yet acts like one, makes shitty decisions and gets angry when called out on it, and never, ever takes responsibility.
And no, it was not 'very romantic'. I've seen better romance from a very drunk Mr. Lahey. This 'romance', if you could call it that, couldn't even decide on what it wanted - outside of the I AM A REAL MAN! rant. I will never get over that, btw. That was unintentionally perfect - a perfect representation of the mind of a pooner. An actual man would probably be a bit irked, but get over it. Not rant about how Jayce doesn't validate him. So romantic for a pooner to also live in fear of being beat by their man - classic! We gonna forget about those mood swings by Jayce, too? Must've been having an emotional day.
Are you crying? You better be, it's for Gaza you fucking transphobe. Eat that fucking oatmeal smoothie.
Yup, that's the love confession. It gets even better: they all start pissing and crying themselves over it.
Calm down, Jayce. It's a love confession, not a murder. Yes, you are overreacting. Are you having an emotional day? Sounds like it.
Of course you did. That's why there were a bunch of emotional days and 'checking ins' as if we're dealing with a Chernobyl reactor.
I have mentioned before that not only do progshits not know how to be offensive, they can't really write genuine romance either. The romance, if you could call it that, was temperamental; it felt like I was in the mind of a manic depressive who couldn't decide what they wanted. We had total troon meltdowns and a pooner yelling about how I AM A TRUE AND HONEST MAN, STOP TREATING ME LIKE A CHILD before calming down a paragraph later and saying it was fine. Of course they're crying and shitting and weeping and what the fuck not because they're just so emotional, God dammit.
Lmao @ "he'd rather minimize sobbing over his homosexuality." Fellas, is it gay to eat pussy? Apparently so if you're dating a 'vagina man' with a volatile personality. least you can say the characterization of a trans man is down pat: emotionally volatile, indecisive, doesn't want to be treated like a child yet acts like one, makes shitty decisions and gets angry when called out on it, and never, ever takes responsibility.
And no, it was not 'very romantic'. I've seen better romance from a very drunk Mr. Lahey. This 'romance', if you could call it that, couldn't even decide on what it wanted - outside of the I AM A REAL MAN! rant. I will never get over that, btw. That was unintentionally perfect - a perfect representation of the mind of a pooner. An actual man would probably be a bit irked, but get over it. Not rant about how Jayce doesn't validate him. So romantic for a pooner to also live in fear of being beat by their man - classic! We gonna forget about those mood swings by Jayce, too? Must've been having an emotional day.
Are you crying? You better be, it's for Gaza you fucking transphobe. Eat that fucking oatmeal smoothie.
Reminder this little charity event barely raised over $2000. They care more about sandniggers than their own people.
Sounds a little bit colonialist to force your Western LGBT values on a pseudo nation and people that don't want it, eh?
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Pooners are so obsessed with being/feeling safe. Troubling psychological implications
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Typical libtard behavior:
Thread tax:
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>the writer's barely-disguised diaper fetish
Pick one. Also love how Kaito is both a manchild and autistic-coded, really shows how the author views autistic people. Very progressive!
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While trans Jayce is not as popular as trans Viktor, there are around 150 fics of him being a pooner. Nearly all of them involve a T4T relationship - AKA lesbians on testosterone - with extra steps. Here is one such fic. Archive.
The author would like you to know she's dedicating this to Palestine.
Don't ask me why this doppelganger theme was used; it was absolutely jarring to read it the first time, and confuses me still. I also don't know why Heimerdinger would assume that Hextech would 'speak' to either of them as humans are not spiritual/attuned to the Arcane as Heimerdinger is.
Also, lol at the description of the actual man being 'tall, dark and handsome'. You can ever escape that stereotype, can you pooners?
Nothing like making a mockery over a spinal condition. It is doubly funny because Viktor is an FTM, so seeing him 'hunch over' in front of other people makes it seem like he's cowering in front of them. AKA what real men do.
(Still not grasping this doppelganger plot, it took me right out of the flow of the story.)
"Yeah I just said some shit in front of Not-Viktor who is clearly a metaphor for my lost feelings and love, anyways aren't I deep for including this red herring that will absolutely have no meaning in the future?"
Yes, these two are going to enact an elaborate plot to get these two pooners together because Heimerdinger suddenly cares about the futility of human love with a nice dashing of hedonism. He didn't even spare that much attention to Viktor in the show; why should he care what these two get up to?
Piltover is actually a society fine with same-sex relationships; it's how you present yourself that matters (pretty sure the showrunners confirmed they're not that anal about who fucks who, so long as it gets you something in the end). Them caring about 'repression' is just stupid; you mean to tell me they were fine 'coming out' as men, yet they can't 'come out' as gay men? Ho hum.
Threatening someone's grades because they won't talk to someone else is a shitty thing to do, romance or not. This does not strike me as romantic - it's borderline blackmail. Caitlyn also not knowing what Hextech is is rich because her mother directly funds Jayce's research.
"If you won't fuck me or ask me out, I'll destroy your entire career" is the plot for a murder novel, not a T4T 'gay love' fic, but whatever.
"I'm going to out you in front of your peers, doesn't that sound great?"
Again, why the fuck does a yordle care?
For a 'Guys fucking dudes' fic, I cannot get over how female coded the internal monologues are. Usually, your typical M/M fic has the pining and the want, but the language can equally be used for a F/M fic. It's neutral. Here, they're talking like teenage girls. Actual men are very upfront with what they want - the fact that they aren't clocks them as female.
PS - pooners don't have big heads. Unless you're talking about Amanda Jette Knox, than that cow has a huge noggin.
Ah, the typical autism defense. All this because these losers won't ask each other out. This isn't pining, this is emotional torture.
"We're going to stop you from working because we really want you to confront your feelings and fuck. Aren't we just stellar individuals? We couldn't do this over a private meeting. We had to make this humiliating!"
Yes, they did the rose petals cheese, with the bisexual lighting. For two Real Doods. Instead of, I don't know, booking them a nice posh apartment with all expenses paid, with a big bottle of lube in the drawer. Did they include the scented bath tub and candles, too?
Why not just do that, Jayce? If you were a real man you'd act on them, instead of having these teenage girl feelings about whether another 'dood' wants to hold your hand or not. The sap is so strong it made me cringe.
(PS - I would consider Viktor beautiful but he automatically gets made fugly when he becomes a pooner, so that term will be taken with a heavy dose of salt.)
It took a yordle, fairy lights and rose petals to get them to make this lesbian confession, and boy is it fucking bad. There's pining, there's obliviousness, and there's pining so fucking obvious only a paint-huffing retard couldn't take the hint. This is one of those cases.
This dialogue, man. When I said it was sappy earlier, I meant it. It's so sweet as to be rotten, and I have to roll my eyes every time I read it. Just get to the point, already! And despite the declarations of love and insistence that there's love, there's really none of that chemistry. These are just two women, pretending to be men, pretending not to be in love with each other.
Oh, and note the uwu smol Viktor thing. Must I stress he's only six inches shorter than Jayce? Not a foot. He's 5'8.
Also, anyone could have told you that the yordle was trying to bait you into confessing. The plot's just that shitty to be open with its intent.
I'll say. The guy was going to do the best man thing by threatening to get rid of your research if you didn't confess your attraction for one another. What a great guy! Of course, this confession could've happened in the privacy of Jayce's room, just saying. Would've made it more impactful.
> Warm, strong, solid
> Barely above 5'4
> If you're solid, it's because you're fat
> Insist that pooners routinely get up to six feet tall
> Insist that they're just as strong as real men, despite not being able to beat them in basic things like grip strength
> That feel when retarded
Why didn't you just confess there, you sappy son of a bitch? Too moody? Too scared of expressing your Real Man Dude feelings? C'mon, man!
Also, 'I'll be gentle'? You don't even have a dick!
> Be a trans author
> Insist you are just like real men
> Inadvertently, and without fail, describe canonical male characters as being smaller, weaker, and 'engulfed' by the male character you kept male
> Fail to notice this
> Unaware of how funny this is
> Write said FTM characters as being hedonists that need to have casual sex to be affirmed
> Said FTM character wonders why they aren't loved/considered the 'campus slut'
> Only exist to be a receptacle for cock
> End up sounding worse than your tradcon fantasies on Twitter
> Be a progshit writing this, and think nothing is wrong
> Just Pooner Things
Look. I get enthusiastic consent. I get characters who seem the type to make sure everything is okay - Jayce is one of those characters - but when you keep fucking writing them asking, it doesn't make it sexy. Part of the draw is body language - how the character responds and acts in a non-verbal manner. We're not stupid. We can tell they're consenting. And stop fucking talking.
You get nasty burns and maybe you'll get some cool scars...but you'll shut up, at least. The dialogue sucks the sexually charged nature right out of it.
So, in this universe, Viktor has access to top surgery that he did to himself...yet couldn't bother to fix his leg. That's a gap in knowledge and logic, there. Doing a double mastectomy on yourself requires a lot of skill...and so does any other surgery. This individual decided to affirm himself and his gender delusion before fixing a persistent health issue.
Which also brings to mind that Viktor also knew Jayce was trans, and that he has breasts as well. And that he wants to get the zippertits, too. Which begs the question: why didn't he do it earlier, with a private surgeon? He has the money. Oh, right. Progshit logic.
You were sculpted by the gods and you squandered a natural gift. Mastectomy scars on pooners aren't hot. They're called tank tracks for a reason.
He doesn't need to, he' s already fucking consenting. Goddamn do these people not get the point. You already took your fucking clothes off. Consent is implied. This isn't a rape fic either, so why the fuck do you need so many 'are you okay? Can I take your shirt off?' shit? You gonna offer to vacuum my carpet too, buddy?
Gotta love how the sun did a Michael Bay by setting within 15 minutes, and the moon is already coming in. They must've been at this for hours.
Yes, you fucked random men and then wondered why people gave you the side eye. Trans men are always sluts in these fics, and then they wonder why people only view them as receptacles for cock. That's coming from inside the house, homie.
So strong he couldn't even do a couple of dead lifts. Real men stay winning.
Anyways, all these declarations of love just sound so shallow. If someone kept telling me that, over and over again, without preamble, I'd wonder what the catch was.
Yes. The two 'Real and Honest Men' finger bang and Viktor comes within a few paragraphs. It manages to be funny instead of serious and sexy; I honestly wanted these two to shut the fuck up. "Is this alright, is this -" NO, now shut your mouth and GET ON WITH IT!
How heavy is FTM Jayce? Probably not as heavy as the author thinks, because women are not as heavy as men. Probably as heavy as a Hawaii chair.
1. Piltovans don't care, provided they can get something out of it.
2. Interesting how they don't care about trans people, but care about open homosexuals.
3. Viktor wanted to pull Jayce out of 'denial', but magically knew he was trans
4. Viktor doesn't 'understand' what Jayce sees in him, and TBH the reasons given were pretty shit. Again, Viktor magically knew Jayce was a fellow pooner, but didn't think there was any attraction? That Jayce also knew Viktor was a pooner, but not that he was gay? The fuck?
Well dear, you managed to bore the shit out of me. Plot needs a lot more work and so does the smut. But hey, you're doing it for Palestine, so...well it's not white colonialism when they do it.
This fic is an alpha/beta/omega fic with added trans elements. The author has a wild explanation for it by the end. Link to fic. Archive.
As is typical, the omega/pooner/female stand in only exists to get pregnant and be bred, as if this is a Handmaid's Tale parody and not an A/B/O smut. It's so very on the nose it's rather funny to read.
LMAO at "It's not a hooker or anything" - a person asking for anonymous sex is acting like a prostitute, albeit they're not getting paid. We call those people whores regardless.
So which hole is Viktor going to get pregnant in, you wonder? The magical uterus in his anus, or the female uterus?
If you thought a porn-addicted moid wrote this, you'd be sadly mistaken. It's not Andrew Tate, it's progshit pooners.
I cannot tell you how many times FTM characters are always written as cum sluts, whores, or individuals begging to be bred, but it's enough to get hard core money off of. They do not realize how much they're confirming the stereotype.
And Jayce being the cuck eating other men's sperm. Gross. Take a shower first. I can't focus on him having a big dick - I'm thinking of the smell. Eugh.
All trans men want to be bred by hot, 'alpha' men. They may say they hate the patriarchy and don't like cis men, but they're lying. They want that cock. They live for it.
I'm assuming they have maternity care in this society? If so, that's a marked improvement over our own. Omegas don't have rights but they have maternity care. Interesting. No shame about being a single mother - er, birthing parent - either.
Hope you got an STD test, handy.
They're doing this in front of Enforcers, mind you. Literally eye fucking.
Yep, no shame. Surprised they didn't just start fucking, because it's an Omega's nature to be bred.
You fucked multiple men, and don't know who the father is, because there are no paternity tests here (but you can get maternity care, imagine that)! Apparently there's no shame in being a single Omega despite being viewed as a second-class citizen, and there are no protections for the kid, either. The worldbuilding in the A/B/O universe is fundamentally retarded and falls apart when you start thinking about it logically.
I'm glad single moms are praised! Now, which hole you giving birth out of?
Cool, when's the alimony hearing?
How many genders are there, you ask? The author doesn't have a clue. She doesn't provide an answer, even when we're dealing with a universe that has magic that could change your body into whatever you want. Why is there still a stratified society? Uhhh critique of capitalism and modern gender, or some shit. Why do trans people exist? Why does Mpreg exist when you're describing a female body getting pregnant? Who fucking knows, you're not supposed to ask. You're just supposed to consoom product and consoom more porn.
Honorable mentions. Want to help Palestinians? Give this bitch some money to write fic.
Other notable mentions. This comes from Mild Limerence, and her own ABO fic involving Ghost trying to argue he's not a faggot:
So...society is stratified into alphas - who have everything - and omegas, who exist only to breed, but there's a taboo against...fucking male omegas? So they're against homosexuality? What?
Yeah, gonna have to give this one a crack someday.
This one sent me.
In lieu of trans shit in HOTD...there's a lot of ABO shit. And yes, they're all like this.
The author would like you to know she's dedicating this to Palestine.
Don't ask me why this doppelganger theme was used; it was absolutely jarring to read it the first time, and confuses me still. I also don't know why Heimerdinger would assume that Hextech would 'speak' to either of them as humans are not spiritual/attuned to the Arcane as Heimerdinger is.
Also, lol at the description of the actual man being 'tall, dark and handsome'. You can ever escape that stereotype, can you pooners?
Nothing like making a mockery over a spinal condition. It is doubly funny because Viktor is an FTM, so seeing him 'hunch over' in front of other people makes it seem like he's cowering in front of them. AKA what real men do.
(Still not grasping this doppelganger plot, it took me right out of the flow of the story.)
"Yeah I just said some shit in front of Not-Viktor who is clearly a metaphor for my lost feelings and love, anyways aren't I deep for including this red herring that will absolutely have no meaning in the future?"
Yes, these two are going to enact an elaborate plot to get these two pooners together because Heimerdinger suddenly cares about the futility of human love with a nice dashing of hedonism. He didn't even spare that much attention to Viktor in the show; why should he care what these two get up to?
Piltover is actually a society fine with same-sex relationships; it's how you present yourself that matters (pretty sure the showrunners confirmed they're not that anal about who fucks who, so long as it gets you something in the end). Them caring about 'repression' is just stupid; you mean to tell me they were fine 'coming out' as men, yet they can't 'come out' as gay men? Ho hum.
Threatening someone's grades because they won't talk to someone else is a shitty thing to do, romance or not. This does not strike me as romantic - it's borderline blackmail. Caitlyn also not knowing what Hextech is is rich because her mother directly funds Jayce's research.
"If you won't fuck me or ask me out, I'll destroy your entire career" is the plot for a murder novel, not a T4T 'gay love' fic, but whatever.
"I'm going to out you in front of your peers, doesn't that sound great?"
Again, why the fuck does a yordle care?
For a 'Guys fucking dudes' fic, I cannot get over how female coded the internal monologues are. Usually, your typical M/M fic has the pining and the want, but the language can equally be used for a F/M fic. It's neutral. Here, they're talking like teenage girls. Actual men are very upfront with what they want - the fact that they aren't clocks them as female.
PS - pooners don't have big heads. Unless you're talking about Amanda Jette Knox, than that cow has a huge noggin.
Ah, the typical autism defense. All this because these losers won't ask each other out. This isn't pining, this is emotional torture.
"We're going to stop you from working because we really want you to confront your feelings and fuck. Aren't we just stellar individuals? We couldn't do this over a private meeting. We had to make this humiliating!"
Yes, they did the rose petals cheese, with the bisexual lighting. For two Real Doods. Instead of, I don't know, booking them a nice posh apartment with all expenses paid, with a big bottle of lube in the drawer. Did they include the scented bath tub and candles, too?
Why not just do that, Jayce? If you were a real man you'd act on them, instead of having these teenage girl feelings about whether another 'dood' wants to hold your hand or not. The sap is so strong it made me cringe.
(PS - I would consider Viktor beautiful but he automatically gets made fugly when he becomes a pooner, so that term will be taken with a heavy dose of salt.)
It took a yordle, fairy lights and rose petals to get them to make this lesbian confession, and boy is it fucking bad. There's pining, there's obliviousness, and there's pining so fucking obvious only a paint-huffing retard couldn't take the hint. This is one of those cases.
This dialogue, man. When I said it was sappy earlier, I meant it. It's so sweet as to be rotten, and I have to roll my eyes every time I read it. Just get to the point, already! And despite the declarations of love and insistence that there's love, there's really none of that chemistry. These are just two women, pretending to be men, pretending not to be in love with each other.
Oh, and note the uwu smol Viktor thing. Must I stress he's only six inches shorter than Jayce? Not a foot. He's 5'8.
Also, anyone could have told you that the yordle was trying to bait you into confessing. The plot's just that shitty to be open with its intent.
I'll say. The guy was going to do the best man thing by threatening to get rid of your research if you didn't confess your attraction for one another. What a great guy! Of course, this confession could've happened in the privacy of Jayce's room, just saying. Would've made it more impactful.
> Warm, strong, solid
> Barely above 5'4
> If you're solid, it's because you're fat
> Insist that pooners routinely get up to six feet tall
> Insist that they're just as strong as real men, despite not being able to beat them in basic things like grip strength
> That feel when retarded
Why didn't you just confess there, you sappy son of a bitch? Too moody? Too scared of expressing your Real Man Dude feelings? C'mon, man!
Also, 'I'll be gentle'? You don't even have a dick!
> Be a trans author
> Insist you are just like real men
> Inadvertently, and without fail, describe canonical male characters as being smaller, weaker, and 'engulfed' by the male character you kept male
> Fail to notice this
> Unaware of how funny this is
> Write said FTM characters as being hedonists that need to have casual sex to be affirmed
> Said FTM character wonders why they aren't loved/considered the 'campus slut'
> Only exist to be a receptacle for cock
> End up sounding worse than your tradcon fantasies on Twitter
> Be a progshit writing this, and think nothing is wrong
> Just Pooner Things
Look. I get enthusiastic consent. I get characters who seem the type to make sure everything is okay - Jayce is one of those characters - but when you keep fucking writing them asking, it doesn't make it sexy. Part of the draw is body language - how the character responds and acts in a non-verbal manner. We're not stupid. We can tell they're consenting. And stop fucking talking.
You get nasty burns and maybe you'll get some cool scars...but you'll shut up, at least. The dialogue sucks the sexually charged nature right out of it.
So, in this universe, Viktor has access to top surgery that he did to himself...yet couldn't bother to fix his leg. That's a gap in knowledge and logic, there. Doing a double mastectomy on yourself requires a lot of skill...and so does any other surgery. This individual decided to affirm himself and his gender delusion before fixing a persistent health issue.
Which also brings to mind that Viktor also knew Jayce was trans, and that he has breasts as well. And that he wants to get the zippertits, too. Which begs the question: why didn't he do it earlier, with a private surgeon? He has the money. Oh, right. Progshit logic.
You were sculpted by the gods and you squandered a natural gift. Mastectomy scars on pooners aren't hot. They're called tank tracks for a reason.
He doesn't need to, he' s already fucking consenting. Goddamn do these people not get the point. You already took your fucking clothes off. Consent is implied. This isn't a rape fic either, so why the fuck do you need so many 'are you okay? Can I take your shirt off?' shit? You gonna offer to vacuum my carpet too, buddy?
Gotta love how the sun did a Michael Bay by setting within 15 minutes, and the moon is already coming in. They must've been at this for hours.
Yes, you fucked random men and then wondered why people gave you the side eye. Trans men are always sluts in these fics, and then they wonder why people only view them as receptacles for cock. That's coming from inside the house, homie.
So strong he couldn't even do a couple of dead lifts. Real men stay winning.
Anyways, all these declarations of love just sound so shallow. If someone kept telling me that, over and over again, without preamble, I'd wonder what the catch was.
Yes. The two 'Real and Honest Men' finger bang and Viktor comes within a few paragraphs. It manages to be funny instead of serious and sexy; I honestly wanted these two to shut the fuck up. "Is this alright, is this -" NO, now shut your mouth and GET ON WITH IT!
How heavy is FTM Jayce? Probably not as heavy as the author thinks, because women are not as heavy as men. Probably as heavy as a Hawaii chair.
1. Piltovans don't care, provided they can get something out of it.
2. Interesting how they don't care about trans people, but care about open homosexuals.
3. Viktor wanted to pull Jayce out of 'denial', but magically knew he was trans
4. Viktor doesn't 'understand' what Jayce sees in him, and TBH the reasons given were pretty shit. Again, Viktor magically knew Jayce was a fellow pooner, but didn't think there was any attraction? That Jayce also knew Viktor was a pooner, but not that he was gay? The fuck?
Well dear, you managed to bore the shit out of me. Plot needs a lot more work and so does the smut. But hey, you're doing it for Palestine, so...well it's not white colonialism when they do it.
This fic is an alpha/beta/omega fic with added trans elements. The author has a wild explanation for it by the end. Link to fic. Archive.
As is typical, the omega/pooner/female stand in only exists to get pregnant and be bred, as if this is a Handmaid's Tale parody and not an A/B/O smut. It's so very on the nose it's rather funny to read.
LMAO at "It's not a hooker or anything" - a person asking for anonymous sex is acting like a prostitute, albeit they're not getting paid. We call those people whores regardless.
So which hole is Viktor going to get pregnant in, you wonder? The magical uterus in his anus, or the female uterus?
If you thought a porn-addicted moid wrote this, you'd be sadly mistaken. It's not Andrew Tate, it's progshit pooners.
I cannot tell you how many times FTM characters are always written as cum sluts, whores, or individuals begging to be bred, but it's enough to get hard core money off of. They do not realize how much they're confirming the stereotype.
And Jayce being the cuck eating other men's sperm. Gross. Take a shower first. I can't focus on him having a big dick - I'm thinking of the smell. Eugh.
All trans men want to be bred by hot, 'alpha' men. They may say they hate the patriarchy and don't like cis men, but they're lying. They want that cock. They live for it.
I'm assuming they have maternity care in this society? If so, that's a marked improvement over our own. Omegas don't have rights but they have maternity care. Interesting. No shame about being a single mother - er, birthing parent - either.
Hope you got an STD test, handy.
They're doing this in front of Enforcers, mind you. Literally eye fucking.
Yep, no shame. Surprised they didn't just start fucking, because it's an Omega's nature to be bred.
You fucked multiple men, and don't know who the father is, because there are no paternity tests here (but you can get maternity care, imagine that)! Apparently there's no shame in being a single Omega despite being viewed as a second-class citizen, and there are no protections for the kid, either. The worldbuilding in the A/B/O universe is fundamentally retarded and falls apart when you start thinking about it logically.
I'm glad single moms are praised! Now, which hole you giving birth out of?
Cool, when's the alimony hearing?
How many genders are there, you ask? The author doesn't have a clue. She doesn't provide an answer, even when we're dealing with a universe that has magic that could change your body into whatever you want. Why is there still a stratified society? Uhhh critique of capitalism and modern gender, or some shit. Why do trans people exist? Why does Mpreg exist when you're describing a female body getting pregnant? Who fucking knows, you're not supposed to ask. You're just supposed to consoom product and consoom more porn.
Honorable mentions. Want to help Palestinians? Give this bitch some money to write fic.
Other notable mentions. This comes from Mild Limerence, and her own ABO fic involving Ghost trying to argue he's not a faggot:
So...society is stratified into alphas - who have everything - and omegas, who exist only to breed, but there's a taboo against...fucking male omegas? So they're against homosexuality? What?
Yeah, gonna have to give this one a crack someday.
This one sent me.
In lieu of trans shit in HOTD...there's a lot of ABO shit. And yes, they're all like this.
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