🐱 Fandom Ageism Doesn't Make Any Sense - Lol grow up

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For a while it seemed like Millennials and Gen Z-ers on the internet were a united front against Baby Boomers, but now they seem to be at odds with each other. As a cusper who tends to identify more with the Millennial side of things, I have admittedly felt a bit of a “get off my lawn” feeling towards certain members of Gen Z (usually the younger ones) from time to time online, but lately, I’ve been surprised to see that attitude coming from those on the younger side to “oldies” like myself.

I should start by clarifying that there are some minors who make it clear they don’t feel comfortable interacting with adults in online spaces, and that’s perfectly fine. Internet safety is important, and while you can never really tell if a stranger is who they say they are, listing “Do Not Interact” (or DNI) categories can be a way to help customize someone’s online experience to make them more comfortable. So, it’s perfectly fine for kids and teens to try to stay away from adults on the internet and enjoy things like online fandom spaces with people closer to their own age.

I also love that so many of today’s teens aren’t afraid to correct adults when they get things wrong, or call them out on their harmful behavior. That’s awesome, and I’m glad that so many young people are boldly standing up for justice on issues of racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, and more. However, the topic of adults simply existingin fandom is a much different story. The only time it comes close is if adult members of an online community target minors within it.

That’s definitely a problem that needs to be dealt with, but what I’m talking about here is the claim from many kids and teens that adults shouldn’t be present in fan communities at all.

Growing up, most of us tend to have some sort of inaccurate expectations and ideals of what an “adult” is. This is partly because the world is always changing (economic conditions have led to an increased number of people in their 20s and 30s still living with their parents, myself included) but also because young people haven’t actually experienced adulthood for themselves yet, and there are just some things you don’t fully understand until you’re at that point yourself.

The implication from minors upset by the presence of adults in fandom spaces seems to be that they shouldn’t be as invested in the media they consume as kids are, and should be spending their time paying taxes, or taking care of their kids, or whatever it is they think adults spend all their time doing outside of work.

I think most minors in any fan community would consider fandom one of their hobbies, and it’s exactly the same for adults. I’m not sure if the kids complaining think that adults should have different hobbies than kids or if they just shouldn’t have time for any at all, but yes, adults do have interests beyond their personal responsibilities, and fandom makes a lot of sense as one of them, when you think about it. It’s something that can be participated in at any time of day, which makes it work well for people who have busy or unpredictable schedules.

There’s also the fact that there just aren’t as many groups to foster the hobbies of adults as there are for kids and teens. Most schools and municipalities will have plenty of sports leagues, dance and art classes, and other organized activities for kids to participate in, and while there are some of these for adults in certain places, the time commitment just doesn’t work for a lot of people.

And let’s keep in mind that pretty much all media that has sprouted hardcore fan communities is created and worked on by adults—often adults who have been and are fans themselves. Some minors may not like to see older people do things like cosplay or write fanfiction, but it’s adults that create the “official,” professional versions of these things, like the costumes seen on the actual shows and movies (and retail store Halloween costumes) and the scripts for the canon stories themselves, so it makes just as much sense as a hobby.

So it’s pretty obvious that it’s not only kids who get invested in TV shows, love going to the movies, collect comic books, or consume whatever other media is out there. And as with anything else, it’s only natural for people to want to talk about the things they love with others, no matter their age. Social media is one of the main ways people find others with like-minded interests in the modern world, so of course fans are going to flock there to talk about the latest installment of their favorite show or movie franchise.

Some people do move on from fandom as they get older, or at least from being as invested in it when they were kids. But I have to wonder just how many of those berating adults for being in fandom spaces right now will grow up to realize they themselves don’t want (nor do they need) to leave their fan communities behind, even if they currently think they surely will by X age.

Bottom line: This has the same energy as the mom who wrote that long rant about childless adults at Disney World. The dominance of pop culture by “nerdy” things means fandom, now more than ever, is for all demographics, and there is plenty of room for everyone within the wide world of fan culture.
 
Bullshit. You can enjoy Marvel or Star Wars stuff but if you are a grown-ass adult crying over a trailer, you are way too old to be doing that. One thing to enjoy something, another to make your life revolve around it.

And some ips like My Little Pony, shouldn't be enjoyed by anyone over the age of 10 or so.
 
You know what I find really weird? The idea that a grown man can have my 9 year old brother run up to them and say to them 'I love Minecraft!' and that full grown man will try and have an actual conversation about Minecraft with him. No actually that's not weird, that's fucking gross, and creepy and inappropriate. Children's things are for children. That CS lewis quote that people love to bring up to justify their late stage metastasized manchildness is not about how it's okay to be a mental child, it's about not being neurotic about what others think.

Faggot.
 
There are manly fandoms like Space Marines!

But yeah, MLP is for girls aged 6 or below. It isn't Aliens or even Superman, it is just a step above Teletubbies.

So mentally just CWCs age range!
 
I admit that i am a fan of old disney animated movies (mostly everything that came before the 2000s) and i am willing to talk with others about it, as long as it does not turn into an autistic rage fest.

Nowadays, everytime a new disney movie comes out, it's mostly about autistic LGBT represenation, or how the villain is somehow linked to DRUMPF. But it's never about the fact that it totally sucks.
 
Got a feeling the issue isn't that adult enjoy this crap but the ones who get way into fandom of people significantly younger then tend to be groomers and sex pests.
 
Why would you want to hang out on a forum mainly for kids or teens? I can see going in and making a post or two, especially if it’s ostensibly the official forum, like for Minecraft or the English Touhou forums, but why would you want to actively hang out there? Most fandoms have places where adults discuss them. Hell, here on KF we have one of the biggest threads on Vtubers on the internet, and if that’s true, there must be places for adults to discuss any fandom.

More to the point, if you’re on a forum and stick out so badly that people can tell you’re an adult larping, you’re a fucking creep.
 
Being an adult doesnt mean not enjoying some "childish" things but it means you gotta be more mature on HOW you enjoy it. There is this aspect of moderation and style to it, you know?
 
This is nothing new. There was always some 47 year old creepo who wanted to have sex with Sasami or Sailor Moon and they'd try to horn their way into communities for younger fans. But just because those guys exist doesn't mean every adult fan is a creeper.

Many of these fandoms like Star Wars, Star Trek, MCU, older animes, games and cartoons ect... The first Kingdom Hearts game is almost 20 years old. Some of the younger fans weren't even conceived yet. The these franchises have fans who have been fans for decades. It's the kiddies that are the newbies. You can't push the older fans out because some people might be pedos.

I think Gen Z just wants the old guard to fuck off so they can turn every character into a non-binary black tranny.
 
How soon they forget. Back in the day when online fandoms were new, we didn't really have this problem. You know why? Because it was mostly just Milennials. There was the odd graybeard, but generally it was just teens and young adults. And older people were bashed nearly relentlessly (except for the "cool" graybeards). Now the Milennials want to whine that they're getting booted to Bigtown. Pathetic.
 
There’s also the fact that there just aren’t as many groups to foster the hobbies of adults as there are for kids and teens. Most schools and municipalities will have plenty of sports leagues, dance and art classes, and other organized activities for kids to participate in, and while there are some of these for adults in certain places, the time commitment just doesn’t work for a lot of people.
Fucking kek. Could that be because that as an adult, you should be able to set up your own fun? What's stopping you from grabbing a bunch of buddies and setting up a beer league, or a car race, or a goddamn lanparty, or a slumber party where you talk about the latest capeshit movie?
 
Why would you want to hang out on a forum mainly for kids or teens?
I don't know, why do we hang out on a forum mainly for autists and retards? If you enjoy the subject matter of a forum it's fun, it's a hobby, you get to learn things and share information with others. And you can interact with people who share your interests, which may be uncommon in real life--whether that's TV shows, comic books, or delusional transsexual slow-in-the-minds who rape their own mothers.
 
Grown journo living with his mom gets pissy that kids tell him to fuck off.

Also you freely admit that there are older people using fandoms to prey on younger kids. Isn't that a story more worth your time than this bitchfest? How about you investigate and expose, protect the kids from the bad parts of your age group to help you become more accepted?
 
I've never seen people get genuinely offended adults people like things but that's probably because I don't use twitter or reddit. Jokes about shit? sure but that's a completely different ballpark. If people find shit entertaining they're gonna find it entertaining no matter what social pressure shits going on. See: All the shit the kinds of people who write these kinds of articles say about stuff being being "for the gays" that straight people still like. it's fucking dumb.
You know what I find really weird? The idea that a grown man can have my 9 year old brother run up to them and say to them 'I love Minecraft!' and that full grown man will try and have an actual conversation about Minecraft with him. No actually that's not weird, that's fucking gross, and creepy and inappropriate. Children's things are for children. That CS lewis quote that people love to bring up to justify their late stage metastasized manchildness is not about how it's okay to be a mental child, it's about not being neurotic about what others think.

Faggot.
Minecraft wasnt primarily marketed towards kids until after the MS buyout and that was more than likely in response to minecraft clickbait youtube personalities getting uber poplar with kids. Never forget this as you will see instances of this kind of shit in more media than just minecrap where the marketing changes to suit either what a buyer or some trend dictates.
 
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