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I'd forgotten how enjoyable New Vegas is. I dumped 60 hours into a playthrough in a week without realizing it. It's unfortunate Todd took everything good about NV and has done the opposite seemingly out of pure spite.
 
Seething Bazelgeuse said:
I'd forgotten how enjoyable New Vegas is. I dumped 60 hours into a playthrough in a week without realizing it. It's unfortunate Todd took everything good about NV and has done the opposite seemingly out of pure spite.
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Would you say that the current state of the franchise has you seething with anger Mr. B-52 Bomber?

All jokes aside yeah NV is one of the easiest games for me to get caught up in and lose track of time for days on end while playing, it's just really damn easy to immerse yourself in the world and forget about everything else.
 
Mysterious Autist XX said:
Would you say that the current state of the franchise has you seething with anger Mr. B-52 Bomber?
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Yea, I'm gunna make what the Boomers did at Hoover Dam look like a fucking firecracker.

With all the mods that have been made over the years NV is a pretty refined experience, it's very nice. I ended up installing VLK's collection off Nexus and editing/adding/removing things here and there to get stuff exactly how I wanted it. Honestly I'll probably do another playthrough with a different build here before too long even though it had been nearly 10 years between this playthrough and the last one I'd done. It's just such a charming game and it's sad that Bethesda didn't learn the lessons NV could've taught them about making an actual fucking RPG instead of the shit they've been doing for the last 10 years.
 
Dorkwan said:
I view the people that get horny for Bethesda Oblivon/Fallout 3/New Vegas potato headed NPCs as only being a few rungs higher on the food chain than the dregs that jack off to Simpson's porn or Seth McFarlane characters.
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Veronica isn't that ugly even though she's annoying as all hell. Sunny Smiles? (:_( I wouldn't dry beat to them through my jorts but they're sort of cute.
 
Joshua Cohen Mohnstein said:
Veronica isn't that ugly even though she's annoying as all hell. Sunny Smiles? (:_( I wouldn't dry beat to them through my jorts but they're sort of cute.
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Are you ignoring Sarah Weintraub (well, Sarah Lyons is a bit of hottie IMO) and Red Lucy? Those are gold mine in a world full of potato-heads.
Even Cass is a bit of cute.
 
winderson_silva said:
Watched the series. It's meh.

I just want to know why the fuck Todd got an Enclave fetish, how many times it will spawn out of thin air?
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Todd is an Enclave fetishist, not a Brotherhood one? Let me remind you the Brotherhood have been in EVERY installment and have two games named after them. Todd didn't direct those, but he sure is dragging it by somehow including them in Fallout 76. The Brotherhood is the most overused faction.
 
Seething Bazelgeuse said:
I'd forgotten how enjoyable New Vegas is. I dumped 60 hours into a playthrough in a week without realizing it. It's unfortunate Todd took everything good about NV and has done the opposite seemingly out of pure spite.
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i spent a weekend drunk playing new vegas on a fucking ps3. its the best game ever made
 
The final operating hotel casino in Primm announced that it will be closing its doors on July 4th, leaving Primm as more or less a literal ghost town after Buffalo Bill's shut down a few months ago.
 
So I need a second opinion on this to make sure I'm not crazy:

When it comes to the Legion in NV, I feel like people are either misremembering or not understanding the Legion's stances on guns. People always seem to bring up how the Legion prefers melee over guns, which is true, but I swear in terms of how they are presented gameplay wise I feel like the legion is pretty much still entirely gun users, with maybe a 1:4 ratio of melee users to gun users. I feel like people draw some other conclusion from what Lucius or Caesar says about guns and technology in general, that most of them aren't allowed to use guns as opposed to it being just a general rule that legionaries need to use what's around them as opposed to relying on them. Am I crazy or this not how it is ingame?
 
Star Classic said:
People always seem to bring up how the Legion prefers melee over guns, which is true
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They do. They don't like the unreliability of guns and the kind of weakness they promote. Every Legionary is conditioned to fearlessly run at the enemy as fast to hack them to pieces.

Star Classic said:
I swear in terms of how they are presented gameplay wise I feel like the legion is pretty much still entirely gun users, with maybe a 1:4 ratio of melee users to gun users
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Every Legionary carries either the machete or machete gladius, even if they spawn with a gun.

Star Classic said:
I feel like people draw some other conclusion from what Lucius or Caesar says about guns and technology in general, that most of them aren't allowed to use guns as opposed to it being just a general rule that legionaries need to use what's around them as opposed to relying on them.
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Guns aren't banned in the Legion. They're perfectly ok with using the howitzer during the Battle of Hoover damn and guns are located in every Legion camp and on nearly every Legionary. Colonel Moore mentions that she ordered the troopers on the dam to toss their guns over the side if they're about to die so that the rushing Legion doesn't get their hands on them.

Essentially, the Legion doesn't prioritize guns and instead trains their soldier to use close-quarters weapons and shock tactics first and foremost, but they're not stupid enough to neglect the obvious utility of firearms. If they find them, great, but they don't really factor into strategy aside from as a force amplifier to their Zerg rushes.

In regards to the technology ban, Caesar explicitly bans advanced tech like Autodocs, robots, energy weapons, and stimpaks. Tech that promises victory without blood or sacrifice. He wants fanatical adaptable, hardened warriors able to operate individually and part of a larger whole, who don't know of or don't care about anything except their service to Casear and his Legion. Guns are mechanical and user-operated, so they don't contradict the Legion too much
 
Rick The Stick said:
Isn't it also mostly the hit squads and higher ranking legion members that use guns?
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Most standard recruits will have early game firearms such as single shotguns and .357 revolvers, Decani will have midgame weapons like the .44 magnum or the 10mm SMG, and veterans can have late game guns like the Marksman Carbine or Riot Shotgun. Higher tiers can hold lower tier weapons too. Hitsquad weapons scale with level, I believe.

Here's what Lucius, the leader of the Praetorian guard, has to say about machetes:
Caesar has taught us that over-reliance on firearms can only weaken us in the long run. It's why we train heavily with our blades and our fists.
Unlike an NCR trooper, a Legionary is always ready to fight regardless of the circumstance he finds himself in.
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I think the implication is that the Legion just uses guns found from trading, scavenging or from people they've killed. I don't believe there's any dedicated manufacturing like the NCR has with the Gun Runners.
 
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