Facebook megathread

https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/30/18203551/apple-facebook-blocked-internal-ios-apps

Apple has shut down Facebook’s ability to distribute internal iOS apps, from early releases of the Facebook app to basic tools like a lunch menu. A person familiar with the situation tells The Verge that early versions of Facebook, Instagram, Messenger, and other pre-release “dogfood” (beta) apps have stopped working, as have other employee apps, like one for transportation. Facebook is treating this as a critical problem internally, we’re told, as the affected apps simply don’t launch on employees’ phones anymore.

The shutdown comes in response to news that Facebook has been using Apple’s program for internal app distribution to track teenage customers with a “research” app.

That app, revealed yesterday by TechCrunch, was distributed outside of the App Store using Apple’s enterprise program, which allows developers to use special certificates to install more powerful apps onto iPhones. Those apps are only supposed to be used by a company’s employees, however, and Facebook had been distributing its tracking app to customers. Facebook later said it would shut down the app.

This poses a huge issue for Facebook. While Apple provides other tools a company can use to install apps internally, Apple’s enterprise program is the main solution for widely distributing internal apps and services. In an email, a Facebook spokesperson said “I can confirm that this affects our internal apps.”

In a statement given to Recode, Apple said that Facebook was in “clear breach of their agreement with Apple.” Any developer that breaches that agreement, Apple said, has their distribution certificates revoked, “which is what we did in this case to protect our users and their data.” Apple declined to comment on shutting down all of Facebook’s internal apps in an email to The Verge.

Revoking a certificate not only stops apps from being distributed on iOS, but it also stops apps from working. And because internal apps by the same organization or developer may be connected to a single certificate, it can lead to immense headaches like the one Facebook now finds itself in where a multitude of internal apps have been shut down.

Apple and Facebook have already been bickering over privacy, but this is the first instance of Apple taking an action that directly shuts down some of Facebook’s activities. Last March, Apple CEO Tim Cook criticized Facebook’s handling of the Cambridge Analytica data sharing scandal, saying, “I wouldn’t be in this situation” if he were running the company. Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg later said the comments were “extremely glib” and spoke of Apple as a company that “work hard to charge you more.”

 

[DragoonSierra]

Facebook tends to be more fair with its bans and suspensions than Twitter. Or rather it applies its hate speech policy in a more fair way

 

[RG 448]

I feel safer already.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

I like how that's all they seem to care about, that he said anti-jew shit. All his comments about death to America and putting an end to white people are cool though.

The same happened with Sarsour. It was when she was "antisemitic" that people got really mad about her.

 

[Y2K Baby]

libertarian

Libertarian

Oh yeah Milo is totally a libertarian and not just a weird conservative.

You can be libertarian and far right. You can be libertarian and conservative. You can be a gay black Jew and be far right. You can't be Milo and far right though. He's just a reactionary tool.

 

[pwnest injun]

I think it's happened. I've passed the point where I could possibly give a shit about what Facebook does or doesn't do to anyone.

 

[Yovevires]

Facebook is dying and they're just going to accelerate their own demise. Good riddance.

 

[Syaoran Li]

I find it ironic that they accused Alex Jones, Loomer, and Milo of being anti-Semites considering Alex Jones is a pro-Israel Christian boomer while Milo and Loomer are both Jewish

The only actual Anti-Semite on the list is Louis Farrakhan, and I get the feeling they only banned him as a half-assed attempt to seem fair and even-handed. If they allowed Louis on there, you know critics would bring it up against them, so they banned him along with others guilty of thought crime agaisnt The Party in an attempt to deflect criticism.

 

[Ashy the Angel]

There is no universe in which Louis Farrakhan isn't a far-right winger. He pushes black supremacy, segregation and nationalism. He's anti-gay, extremely anti-semetic and has literally praised hitler. He hates welfare and abortion. He's pretty much a religious fundamentalist, and in any other universe he'd be straight-up natsoc but he's black.

Do people not know that Muslims can be conservative? And even if you honestly believe he's a leftist I can tell you literally no leftist is going to lose sleep over this decision whatsoever.

 

[Marissa Moira]

I find it ironic that they accused Alex Jones, Loomer, and Milo of being anti-Semites considering Alex Jones is a pro-Israel Christian boomer while Milo and Loomer are both Jewish

The only actual Anti-Semite on the list is Louis Farrakhan, and I get the feeling they only banned him as a half-assed attempt to seem fair and even-handed. If they allowed Louis on there, you know critics would bring it up against them, so they banned him along with others guilty of thought crime agaisnt The Party in an attempt to deflect criticism.

Anti-Semite is slowly transitioning into the new Uncle Tom.

 

[GrungyLawnChlorinate]

The bans are likely to be welcomed by civil rights activists

MLKii would be so proud.

Yes, I'm a civil rights activist. I'm fighting for your right to shut the fuck up and die in a gutter.

I'm surprised they tried to show fairness and banned Farrakhan, but the censorship as a whole is bullshit.

He's 85. What a joke. Everyone can see through this ruse.

 

[frozenrunner]

But the people using libertarian as an insult are dumb as fuck.

People didn't even bother misrepresenting and slurring libertarians 5 years ago. Now they're a bigger political threat, so they get the same treatment as all the other "enemies."

It's like they believe these people have magical Charles Manson powers and will brainwash people into doing their bidding just with the sound of their voice.

Sometimes I think progressives/regressives/whatever actually believe this. Think about how much "woke" propaganda they force into TV shows and films because they think they dictate culture through entertainment. Think about how angry they get when people don't swallow their messages and dare to tell them no. It's like they're angry people aren't "following the rules." Or their programming.

I think it's happened. I've passed the point where I could possibly give a shit about what Facebook does or doesn't do to anyone.

So have most people. That's probably why they're doing this. Free PR.

 

[Ineedahero]

extremely anti-semetic and has literally praised hitler

That's not a right wing trait, you would have to call everyone on the women's march right wing if it were. If there's one thing the far left and far right can agree on it seems, it's that the Jews are in some way responsible.

Also you call him Muslim, but he's not, he's nation of islam, which is its own culty thing.

As for whether he's left wing, why do you care so much? Also do you really think Louis Farrakhan could tar the image of the left now? Isn't that like tarring a tar baby?

 

[Ashy the Angel]

That's not a right wing trait,

It's straight up a far-right trait. He's gone on record saying jews control the media and use it to push satanic narratives and gay and lgbt stuff, which literally mirrors common far-right talking points.

you would have to call everyone on the women's march right wing if it were. If there's one thing the far left and far right can agree on it seems, it's that the Jews are in some way responsible.

Funny you mention the women's march. They had to publically denounce him because one of their leaders got caught in a photo-op with him. He's appeared in many pictures with other black leaders. Doesn't mean he's suddenly a leftist.

https://twitter.com/womensmarch/status/971056167081467905

Also you call him Muslim, but he's not, he's nation of islam, which is its own culty thing.

Doesn't prove he's not a right-winger. He uses his religion to justify socially conservative views, and that's uh...putting it lightly.

As for whether he's left wing, why do you care so much? Also do you really think Louis Farrakhan could tar the image of the left now? Isn't that like tarring a tar baby?

Irrelevant. He espouses literally no leftist views. Most of his beliefs mirror the far-right. And to be honest as a leftie we're doing a fine job of embarrassing ourselves as is, no need to attach nutjobs to us. Honestly the only reason he hasn't gotten smacked down yet is because he's black. idpol's a bitch.

 

[Unog]

It's straight up a far-right trait. He's gone on record saying jews control the media and use it to push satanic narratives and gay and lgbt stuff, which literally mirrors common far-right talking points.

Pretty sure being "anti-semitic" alone isn't a right-wing trait. Being "anti-semitic" for those specific reasons might be though.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Just by this thread we can see what the big problem in this whole mess is: words have lost any meaning. righ twing, left wing, socialist, nationalist, conservative, liberal... they used to mean things. Now, definitions are whatever help me to get rid of people. Not to say, in reality, people can have different views despite having a certain specific ideology (and many ideologies change depending on their country of origin: conservatives in europe believe different things than conservatives in America).

By the very basic definition of the word, Farrakhan is right wing, more right winger than the other three. The other three only say inconvenient things and that's the reason they were banned.

 

[ButterBar]

There is no universe in which Louis Farrakhan isn't a far-right winger. He pushes black supremacy, segregation and nationalism. He's anti-gay, extremely anti-semetic and has literally praised hitler. He hates welfare and abortion. He's pretty much a religious fundamentalist, and in any other universe he'd be straight-up natsoc but he's black.

Do people not know that Muslims can be conservative? And even if you honestly believe he's a leftist I can tell you literally no leftist is going to lose sleep over this decision whatsoever.

The women's march organizer who's a devotee of his will. anti-Semitism is virulent on the left, it's not a right wing thing. Look at Corbin as a shining example, look at Ilhan Omar. anti-Semitism is fringe right but mainstream left as long as you arent super out and out about it. Stalin was fucking anti-gay, that's not a right wing thing inherently. Hitler praised Marx even.

 

[The Crow]

Alex Jones
extremist

yeeeeah.......

 

[Ineedahero]

It's straight up a far-right trait. He's gone on record saying jews control the media and use it to push satanic narratives and gay and lgbt stuff, which literally mirrors common far-right talking points.



Funny you mention the women's march. They had to publically denounce him because one of their leaders got caught in a photo-op with him. He's appeared in many pictures with other black leaders. Doesn't mean he's suddenly a leftist.

https://twitter.com/womensmarch/status/971056167081467905
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Doesn't prove he's not a right-winger. He uses his religion to justify socially conservative views, and that's uh...putting it lightly.



Irrelevant. He espouses literally no leftist views. Most of his beliefs mirror the far-right. And to be honest as a leftie we're doing a fine job of embarrassing ourselves as is, no need to attach nutjobs to us. Honestly the only reason he hasn't gotten smacked down yet is because he's black. idpol's a bitch.

If he isn't left wing why did the papers issue a correction? Checkmate atheists

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

Farrakan is far right? Weird people who support him are exclusively on the fringe left...

What exactly is "far" right? Or does right in this context mean "bad" and far mean "very"?

 

[mauggg]

As for whether he's left wing, why do you care so much? Also do you really think Louis Farrakhan could tar the image of the left now? Isn't that like tarring a tar baby?

Tarring a tar baby? That's racist! In fact, it's worse than regular racism!! You've engaged in DOUBLE RACISM, UNPERSON!