Facebook megathread

https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/30/18203551/apple-facebook-blocked-internal-ios-apps

Apple has shut down Facebook’s ability to distribute internal iOS apps, from early releases of the Facebook app to basic tools like a lunch menu. A person familiar with the situation tells The Verge that early versions of Facebook, Instagram, Messenger, and other pre-release “dogfood” (beta) apps have stopped working, as have other employee apps, like one for transportation. Facebook is treating this as a critical problem internally, we’re told, as the affected apps simply don’t launch on employees’ phones anymore.

The shutdown comes in response to news that Facebook has been using Apple’s program for internal app distribution to track teenage customers with a “research” app.

That app, revealed yesterday by TechCrunch, was distributed outside of the App Store using Apple’s enterprise program, which allows developers to use special certificates to install more powerful apps onto iPhones. Those apps are only supposed to be used by a company’s employees, however, and Facebook had been distributing its tracking app to customers. Facebook later said it would shut down the app.

This poses a huge issue for Facebook. While Apple provides other tools a company can use to install apps internally, Apple’s enterprise program is the main solution for widely distributing internal apps and services. In an email, a Facebook spokesperson said “I can confirm that this affects our internal apps.”

In a statement given to Recode, Apple said that Facebook was in “clear breach of their agreement with Apple.” Any developer that breaches that agreement, Apple said, has their distribution certificates revoked, “which is what we did in this case to protect our users and their data.” Apple declined to comment on shutting down all of Facebook’s internal apps in an email to The Verge.

Revoking a certificate not only stops apps from being distributed on iOS, but it also stops apps from working. And because internal apps by the same organization or developer may be connected to a single certificate, it can lead to immense headaches like the one Facebook now finds itself in where a multitude of internal apps have been shut down.

Apple and Facebook have already been bickering over privacy, but this is the first instance of Apple taking an action that directly shuts down some of Facebook’s activities. Last March, Apple CEO Tim Cook criticized Facebook’s handling of the Cambridge Analytica data sharing scandal, saying, “I wouldn’t be in this situation” if he were running the company. Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg later said the comments were “extremely glib” and spoke of Apple as a company that “work hard to charge you more.”

 

[Dracula's Spirit Animal]

Anybody got any extra popcorn? I've run out.

 

[GS 281]

No one said it did. After all, Jussie Smolett just benefited from it.

Seriously though, How long do people who never experienced something get to use it as a social cudgel? Can I go set bombs off in England because I have Irish ancestors?

yea im mad about black people getting away with breaking the law and never going to prison for it, too.

they filed a false police report and got busted for doing it and now most people are laughing at him for doing it. who cares?

 

[moocow]

I agree with your sentiment, but that's not what is actually being argued in the first place hence the response made in regards to said argument going on.

Meh. Not much of an argument going on, really. There's people (rightly) objecting to the censorship (and the obvious double standard), people twisting and bending to explain why censorship is totally okay just this once and then there's people baiting with "lol you oppose this you must be a nazi."

 

[Judge Holden]

- my reaction to this glorious shitshow of a thread so far -

Seriously though, does nobody else memba how often companies and governments went out of their way to ban/censor shit in the past century in response to screeching idiots?

Like am I the only pony here who remembers this bitch?

Its never about a sinister corporate-political conspiracy against [INSERT GROUP/IDEOLOGY HERE]. Its just the same overreaction shit we have seen a billion times already and will see a billion times again because for both politicians and corporate figures its the easiest way of getting good press/deflecting screeching from zealots imaginable.

 

[QT 219]

lol Facebook is still a thing? It's a platform for old people. Let that shit die.

 

[RG 448]

There's people (rightly) objecting

lol no

 

[IV 445]

Posting in this thread because I was told to.

This isn’t what we agreed to

 

[AP 297]

Meh. Not much of an argument going on, really. There's people (rightly) objecting to the censorship (and the obvious double standard), people twisting and bending to explain why censorship is totally okay just this once and then there's people baiting with "lol you oppose this you must be a nazi."

Okay this is now the second thread we meet and you seem to think I am being disingenuous or a shill for what this time, facebook?

Has it dawned on you that I genuinely look down on white supremacists and the like because they are so worthless in my mind? I think that I have provided a number of examples of them being worthy of such sneering contempt, not because they are so dangerous but because they are so cringey. I am white and I feel very privileged to be so. Is it wrong for me to want awful examples of embarrassment bleached off the internet? Can I not be serious in that desire? Just as I was in my opinion that Steam was a complacent mess that needs to be critically examined?

Are you just going to write it all off as me being disingenuous? I am not black, why should I care what a bunch of cringey black seperatists say when I know that the best examples can be saved and recorded to be mocked here?

I find your complete write off of this and other opinions because our argument does not fit your binary 2 color black/white world as an example of your limited ability to perceive the world.

 

[GS 281]

I think that I have provided a number of examples of them being worthy of such sneering contempt, not because they are so dangerous but because they are so cringey.

They aren't cringy.

 

[RG 448]

“and i was gonna buy a snake to fuck also” is now my favorite non-sequitur.

 

[The Crow]

There's people (rightly) objecting to the censorship (and the obvious double standard), people twisting and bending to explain why censorship is totally okay just this once and then there's people baiting with "lol you oppose this you must be a nazi."

jokes on you, shitlord, i'm woke, for cnn and the view keep me highly informed on all of the current events and concerns in this world, and i trust those sources 100% bc they come from the television, and the television would never lie to me, unlike all of those fake news sites on the internet, so take your "freeze peach" and shove it up your privleged ass, you pleeb

 

[BILLY MAYS]

Meh. Not much of an argument going on, really. There's people (rightly) objecting to the censorship (and the obvious double standard), people twisting and bending to explain why censorship is totally okay just this once and then there's people baiting with "lol you oppose this you must be a nazi."

you're just mad you're lumped into the pile of conspiracy believing NPCs lol

 

[moocow]

Okay this is now the second thread we meet and you seem to think I am being disingenuous or a shill for what this time, facebook?
...
Are you just going to write it all off as me being disingenuous?

Huh? Oh, are you still bitter about the Epic game store thing? Talk about holding a grudge.

I find your complete write off of this and other opinions because our argument does not fit your binary 2 color black/white world as an example of your limited ability to perceive the world.

That's not surprising. A disturbing number of people really are okay with censorship and will conjure all sorts of excuses as to why it's okay. Yours is the "black and white" thinking here -- "such and such opinion/belief is bad and must be destroyed by censoring and otherwise inconveniencing the people who hold it." Surely you've seen instances (right here on this very site) where that exact line of reasoning is used to censor completely reasonable opinions that some group in power find unpalatable. Standing up for speech you agree with is easy. It's the stuff you disagree with that deserves protection.

Now this is the part where you conjure some abhorrent speech and demand I either condone it or admit it deserves to be censored. Go ahead. I love a good false dilemma fallacy in the morning.

 

[ZeCommissar]

Personally I hate ANY type of race nationalism. Black racists are just as worthless to humanity as white ones are.

However black nationalist communities aren't as widespread on the internet, and the few ones out there aren't as large compared to Stormfront. So I see why black nationalism or any other type doesn't get as much attention.

I do not like censorship. One hand it is because I believe in American ideals of freedom of speech to the core, but on the other hand I like to know if someone is a piece of shit or not. I want them to flaunt it to the world. I would rather deal with 100 people that are honest with me yet shitty people than 1 snake in the grass that pretends to be a good person. Banning them only makes them hide and double down.

 

[AP 297]

Huh? Oh, are you still bitter about the Epic game store thing? Talk about holding a grudge.


That's not surprising. A disturbing number of people really are okay with censorship and will conjure all sorts of excuses as to why it's okay. Yours is the "black and white" thinking here -- "such and such opinion/belief is bad and must be destroyed by censoring and otherwise inconveniencing the people who hold it." Surely you've seen instances (right here on this very site) where that exact line of reasoning is used to censor completely reasonable opinions that some group in power find unpalatable. Standing up for speech you agree with is easy. It's the stuff you disagree with that deserves protection.

Now this is the part where you conjure some abhorrent speech and demand I either condone it or admit it deserves to be censored. Go ahead. I love a good false dilemma fallacy in the morning.

Bitter?! Oh god no. You were the one who kept rating me dumb and called me a shill for the epic games store. I believe you are the bitter one @moocow .

As for censorship, I am sorry but the danger hairs really have a bunch of you really scared they are going to silence you. So much so you are willing to die on the absolutely stupidest of hills to protect "free speech". You are willing to defend asset flips and crappy games on a dying complacent site run by an obese has been. You are also willing to defend furverts, sexual deviants, and completely inane people on a social media site meant for old people.

So which cause of theirs did you come to resent and now take up the mantle of free speech and defending monopolies just to oppose them any way you can? Was it Gamergate? The dumb shit with Ben Shapiro and Berkely? Cmon a bunch of us are dying to know which event it was that now has you wanting to fight the SJW menace anywhere it seems to pop up. Are you actually one of those sad pathetic internet white supremacists posting on a site for boomers? Cmon, a bunch of us are really are dying to know.

There are people who are active believers of white supremacy on this site and I am sure a few of them are rolling their eyes at this thread. I doubt they give an actual shit about facebook. They have their own efforts and plans to push the Overton window their direction without a site run by a man named Zuckerberg. So come on you "free speechers" use the right you fought so hard for and tell us where the SJW's touched you. Where did they violate you? What precious thing of yours did they take or censor near that has you scared the slippery slope is going to land next to your door?

Come on this is an open site, why not tell us about it. We are really eager to know.

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

Observable reality is that I have and others who follow Tommy Tooter have seen a tranny jew's account suspended and deleted from facebook for making racist and violent remarks, as well as anti-zionist remarks. Several times. So regardless of what a spokesperson says, there is evidence that:

Laura Loomer was permabanned from Twitter for repeating exactly the same kind of material as Louis Farrakhan, but race-swapped. Other examples of exactly that phenomenon exist. Spergon of Assmad was booted from Patreon while numerous AntiFa groups were permitted to remain on the platform until Tim Pool blatantly commented on them in at least 2 videos.

Observable reality is that 50 people were killed and it was livestreamed in part over Facebook. If you are a firm as large as FB and this happens, you're gonna do all you can to pull your balls out the blender and part of that includes "We're gonna squash the white nationalist material".

Jews get the ban. Islams get the ban. Whites get the ban.

Interestingly, there wasn't this kind of massive uproar about 4 black people torturing a mentally disabled white dude, or the black guy that shot his white coworkers on live tv.

 

[GS 281]

Interestingly, there wasn't this kind of massive uproar about 4 black people torturing a mentally disabled white dude, or the black guy that shot his white coworkers on live tv.

lol yea youre right 4 black guys kicking the autistic irl about trump is on the same level as the mass murder of 50 people.

 

[AP 297]

Laura Loomer was permabanned from Twitter for repeating exactly the same kind of material as Louis Farrakhan, but race-swapped. Other examples of exactly that phenomenon exist. Spergon of Assmad was booted from Patreon while numerous AntiFa groups were permitted to remain on the platform until Tim Pool blatantly commented on them in at least 2 videos.

Interestingly, there wasn't this kind of massive uproar about 4 black people torturing a mentally disabled white dude, or the black guy that shot his white coworkers on live tv.

So you are really annoyed about hypocritical and inconsistent de-platforming based on political bias. Fair enough. Still, I would argue that you are not one of the most ardent defenders of these exceptional dullard individuals.


So for the others in this thread, where did the SJW's touch you? Where did they violate you? We are really dying to know the story. Cmon. Please just open up. Is this Gamergate 2:The Second Front for you guys? This level of arguing just about inconsistent de-platforming of idiots has to be from a more deep seated fear. We really want to know. Stop teasing us!

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

lol yea youre right 4 black guys kicking the autistic irl about trump is on the same level as the mass murder of 50 people.

How about the black troon that pepper-sprayed people because they were white, which has completely disappeared from the news? Or Jussie Smollett's lawyer trying to claim "but it was really black guys in white face!", even though he's had all charges dropped for no logical reason, and the CPD is pissed?

When some hijabi lied about "MAGA dudes ripped off her hijab on the MTA" because she was out drinking with her non-Muslim boyfriend, or the Canadian hijabi that lied about some dude following her with scissors and snipping at her hijab? That shit was in the news cycles constantly until they were exposed as hoaxes, and then memory-holed instantly. Muslim shoots up a gay club, announcing his allegiance to radical Islamist principles? Memory-holed. Muslim is 10 minutes early to drive his car into a post-game crowd at a Canadian football game, so he settled for stabbing a cop and mowing down 4 people elsewhere? Not even charged with terrorism despite the ISIS flag in the trunk of his car, and removed from the news cycles within days. That's not even an exhaustive list, because Canada appears to be aiming to be Sweden 2.0, and the US is lurching closer to a race war, from the looks of things.

White accelerationist gets the media doing EXACTLY what he was trying to get them to do, and once again, there's a problem with white supremacists, and that's going to be spattered all over the news constantly.

This isn’t what we agreed to

Where are you posting the punishment stream, though?

 

[GS 281]

How about the black troon that pepper-sprayed people because they were white, which has completely disappeared from the news? Or Jussie Smollett's lawyer trying to claim "but it was really black guys in white face!", even though he's had all charges dropped for no logical reason, and the CPD is pissed?

When some hijabi lied about "MAGA dudes ripped off her hijab on the MTA" because she was out drinking with her non-Muslim boyfriend, or the Canadian hijabi that lied about some dude following her with scissors and snipping at her hijab? That shit was in the news cycles constantly until they were exposed as hoaxes, and then memory-holed instantly. Muslim shoots up a gay club, announcing his allegiance to radical Islamist principles? Memory-holed. Muslim is 10 minutes early to drive his car into a post-game crowd at a Canadian football game, so he settled for stabbing a cop and mowing down 4 people elsewhere? Not even charged with terrorism despite the ISIS flag in the trunk of his car, and removed from the news cycles within days. That's not even an exhaustive list, because Canada appears to be aiming to be Sweden 2.0, and the US is lurching closer to a race war, from the looks of things.

White accelerationist gets the media doing EXACTLY what he was trying to get them to do, and once again, there's a problem with white supremacists, and that's going to be spattered all over the news constantly.

how much of this involved the perp livestreaming on facebook? youre just listing shitty things shitty people did now so i doubt you even understand facebook's stake in the matter.