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Nostalgia bait is the death rattle for capeshit.
Being reminded of much better films of the genre doesn't elevate your piece of shit film.
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Being reminded of much better films of the genre doesn't elevate your piece of shit film.
And it's all social media's fault for glorifying nostalgia. I get that it feels good to go back, but you cannot recreate past decades like 70s, 80s, 90s or 2000s, and not just in culture or entertainment either, but the world as a whole.
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Happy this flopped harder than I thought it would. While a lot of the worst stuff about Erza came out during post-production of this movie, that's not to say weren't any huge red flags before shooting, mainly the video where he chokes slams a woman, had WB done their due diligence at the time and then replaced him, I doubt this movie would have been a bomb, maybe not a hit, not a bomb.
I get the cast and crew can't attack Ezra Miller for the crimes he committed, don't want to bring light to them in the marketing of the movie and overshadow the movie, but praising him makes you all look bad and while doing it anyway, Would have been better to not say anything, or to say something along the line of "A movie is more than the actions of one bad person/ lot of other hard-working people worked on this and their work deserves to been seen ". WB still thought it was a good idea to allow Ezra Miller on the red carpet makes no sense, they understood not to allow him to do interviews but lack that sense just says everything.
While James Gunn really had no involvement with the movie due to it being done pre him taking over DC, it still makes him look bad due to the many quotes he put out about the fate of Ezra Miller as Flash to it being one of the best superhero movies of all time. Sometimes saying nothing is the best move.
While other factors for why the Flash did shit, none are bigger than the star. On that note look forward to seeing how much damage Amber Turd will do to Aquaman 2 box office.
I get the cast and crew can't attack Ezra Miller for the crimes he committed, don't want to bring light to them in the marketing of the movie and overshadow the movie, but praising him makes you all look bad and while doing it anyway, Would have been better to not say anything, or to say something along the line of "A movie is more than the actions of one bad person/ lot of other hard-working people worked on this and their work deserves to been seen ". WB still thought it was a good idea to allow Ezra Miller on the red carpet makes no sense, they understood not to allow him to do interviews but lack that sense just says everything.
While James Gunn really had no involvement with the movie due to it being done pre him taking over DC, it still makes him look bad due to the many quotes he put out about the fate of Ezra Miller as Flash to it being one of the best superhero movies of all time. Sometimes saying nothing is the best move.
While other factors for why the Flash did shit, none are bigger than the star. On that note look forward to seeing how much damage Amber Turd will do to Aquaman 2 box office.
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While I'm certainly glad that Ezra is going to be labeled as box office poison I seriously can't blame him for the film's flop. For the simple reason is Ezra Miller is not a "movie star" in the definition that his appearance will bring people to the theaters. Ezra Miller is famous for people who follow Hollywood film, that is totally different from normies.
And Warner Bros I fully believe knew this. That's why they paired him up with Michael Keaton who is a legitimate movie star. Michael Keaton might be an old man but me and my generation and the generations before that know him as Beetlejuice & Batman. He's not Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt which is why they stupidly didn't do Batman Beyond. But still he's a recognizable name and a fine actor, Birdman and The Founder showed the guy can carry movie.
But so why did the movie bomb? For one thing the delays! I can't get over that DC did that first teaser trailer with The Flash finding the 89 Batmobile and then sat on the movie for so long. Movies can go through development hell but once you release the trailer the release date needs to be set in stone. Look at Avatar 2, it made a killing despite Cameron procrastinating and Disney won because they slowly hyped the movie. James Cameron knows how to make his film's release feel like an event.
And there's another key problem, The Flash is only iconic to comic book nerds and millennials who watched Justice League. My parents know Batman and Superman because there were movies and TV shows made about those heroes before they were born!
Who knows maybe I'm just a sperg, Warner Bros is a giant media conglomerate they should know better than me. But here's my big prediction. Aquaman 2 will do well in the box office ($800+) despite facing the same problems as Shazam 2 and The Flash. I believe that because Aquaman is a nostalgic character and Jason Momoa is a movie star. Normies know the Hawaiian muscleman from Game of Thrones and my parents can recognize the name Aquaman.
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James Gunn really has inherited a poison chalice in that the DCEU is pretty much toxic in the minds of your average filmgoer. Sure, theres fans of DC who will always buy tickets, but for a movie to be big nowadays it needs to appeal to non-fans as well. The Dark Knight and Joker attracted mainstream audiences because you could sit and enjoy the films without knowing who the characters were beforehand. With Black Adam and The Flash, you needed to know the characters, and your average filmgoer isn't willing to read up on them when there's a dozen different non-DC films showing on the same weekend.
Regarding Actors as a draw, Michael Keaton failing to attract audiences wasn't the only example of a DC film failing to use acting talent as a draw. Black Adam featured The Rock - the highest paid actor in Hollywood - yet audiences still stayed away due to the unknown character and "DC" branding. On the other hand, there are examples of stars and directors killing films like Ezra Miller did to The Flash. "Pirates" flopped at the box office in 1986 mostly because the director - Roman Polanski - had recently fled the United States to avoid getting sentenced after admitting to raping a minor.
Aquaman 2 has been reported to be so bad, that test audiences were walking out of screenings. When you consider how negative Amber Heard is in the minds of the public, how DC is considered a warning label rather than a respected brand, and the obscene budget of most DC films, I can see Aquaman 2 being another catastrophic loss to WBD, maybe even bigger than The Flash. People have said that if WBD just dumped The Flash on Max (or whatever they call their streaming service) or left the film on the shelf, they would have lost less money due to saving on marketing/distribution costs. It would be a smart decision just to cancel Aquaman 2 and Blue Beetle, but I believe language in the actor's contracts would prevent that. You see, Scarlet Johansson sued Disney after they launched Black Widow on Disney+ early, as she was promised a cut of box office revenue in her contract, and she believed an early streaming release would reduce that. Its possible Ezra Miller and Amber Heard also have such language in their contracts, which would block WBD from cancelling their films.
All I can say is congratulations to Ezra Miller for joining Taylor Kitsch, Kristin Kreuk, Hera Hilmar, Alicia Vikander and many others as one of the many box office poison actors, and his criminal records are also responsible for his actions. Hopefully he becomes homeless soon.
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‘The Flash’ Star Ezra Miller Claims To “Have Been Unjustly And Directly Targeted” After Judge Lifts Protective Order Related To 12-Year-Old Who Actor Said “Would Be Lucky To Have Someone Like Me Guide Them”
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Per said neighbor, who knew Miller trough the actor’s bandmate and ‘close friend’ Whitney Suters, The Flash star arrived that evening “wearing a bulletproof vest—and I had no idea until later that they were armed.”
At one point in the night, Miller’s emotions flared when the child’s mother recalled how she had recently done some traveling with “her tribe” – using the term as slang in reference to a group of friends rather than any sort of actual Native American community – to which the actor snapped and accused her of cultural appropriation.
As the night continued, the actor would once again make at an attempt at critical race theory-based virtual signaling when after asserting that the board game Parcheesi owed its roots to the Rastafari religion, the neighbor – himself half-black – asked Miller to identify which exact Rastafari sect lent their influence to the game’s creation.
“At this point,” the neighbor told Stern, “Ezra explodes and started screaming directly into my face.”
In the aftermath of this confrontation, the neighbor claims that Miller turned his focus to the then-11-year-old, telling the child’s mother, “I’ve talked extensively with your child, and they have a lot of power to them.”
“At one point, you’re going to realize that you don’t have any control over them anymore,” the actor added. “They’re an elevated being, and they would be lucky to have someone like me guide them.”
Miller then proceeded to berate Guin, accusing her of being both a witch and a vampire due to the fact that she, as per Stern, “dresses Goth”.
“Do you want to drink my blood?” the actor repeatedly yelled. “Do you!?”
At one point in the night, Miller’s emotions flared when the child’s mother recalled how she had recently done some traveling with “her tribe” – using the term as slang in reference to a group of friends rather than any sort of actual Native American community – to which the actor snapped and accused her of cultural appropriation.
As the night continued, the actor would once again make at an attempt at critical race theory-based virtual signaling when after asserting that the board game Parcheesi owed its roots to the Rastafari religion, the neighbor – himself half-black – asked Miller to identify which exact Rastafari sect lent their influence to the game’s creation.
“At this point,” the neighbor told Stern, “Ezra explodes and started screaming directly into my face.”
In the aftermath of this confrontation, the neighbor claims that Miller turned his focus to the then-11-year-old, telling the child’s mother, “I’ve talked extensively with your child, and they have a lot of power to them.”
“At one point, you’re going to realize that you don’t have any control over them anymore,” the actor added. “They’re an elevated being, and they would be lucky to have someone like me guide them.”
Miller then proceeded to berate Guin, accusing her of being both a witch and a vampire due to the fact that she, as per Stern, “dresses Goth”.
“Do you want to drink my blood?” the actor repeatedly yelled. “Do you!?”
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Where the hell do you live where Flash isn't a household name. I mean, I don't expect people to know "Barry Allen" or any of his villains but just the Flash? One of the most well known superhero identities out there. I think the "politics" around these WB superhero movies are hilariously foot-shooting. Toss a bad film and bad-crazy star on top and its the recipe for a bomb.
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Boy, it sure is funny that this protective order was lifted several weeks after the movie came out. The timing is just so specific... But I find it hilarious (and also disturbing) if Warner Bros. executives were able to hold this over Exra under the promise that if the movie does well that they will make this go away for him. There's a really, REEALLY decent chance that this is what happened.
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Didn't it just expire rather than get lifted?
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I caught Black Adam on HBOMax. It was terrible. Pierce Brosnan as the grizzled mentor Dr Fate, chuckling and saying "old friend" to HawkNigger, with a knowing gleam in his eye as he grins, was just retarded. Couldnt buy it for a second. They were going for something like the dynamic in Logan, but it was like an AI or a focus group wrote the dialogue. HawkNigger himself was one dimensional. Why would they send him to fight a magic superman like Black Adam. Atom Smasher was generic cute goofy guy who can barely ask a girl out, and whaddya know, he's sweet on the super negress, Cyclone.
The morality portrayed is retarded. The Justice League will not allow an immortal cultural hero to kill criminals in his own country. Repeatedly they tell him he needs to calm down, he can't take the law into his own hands and just execute people. And ... why. The country is a mess. The Justice League would rather imprison Adam than allow him to clean house within his own homeland. That chick from the beginning, dead. Her son, dead. Thanks, Justice League. It only makes sense to me as a globohomo morality play. Definitely anti-nationalism.
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I gave Black Adam a chance because I was bored and like everyone else I want the Rock to be in at least one objectively good movie. The closest you get to that is The Rundown which is still not really great. He's like the opposite of Stallone and Schwarzenegger where those guys starred in more than a few all time classic action movies and a few of those are considered objectively good. But the Rock has never had that kind of fortune.
I thought the first 20 minutes of Black Adam was "okay" but as soon as the kid character and other characters are introduced it immediately falls apart.
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Wrasslers simply don't transfer well over to Hollywood with The Rock being the most wildly successful one. As you noted his filmography ranges from meh to total trash. I kinda figure that because their likeness gets overexposed due to the nature of the WWE.
I guess you could argue that Batista did transfer over to Hollywood quite successfully, but while Batista was the Heavyweight Champ I wouldn't consider him to have been the main face of the WWE like Hulk, Macho Man, Rock, and Cena were. Also Batista was quite smart in that he was just happy to play supporting roles films rather than going for than just tying his name to a lead film which could potentially typecast him.
Also I'd say The Rock's best picture is Pain & Gain. Michael Bay's direction in that movie was sloppy but it was still a fun story and true crime tale it was based on was stranger than fiction.
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It was The Mummy because he didn't have any actual lines and you don't see much of him.
He had more lines in his spinoff The Scorpion King
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The cliche used to be "glory days" or Al Bundy where older guys reveled in their high school days as a high point in life. I thought it was sad that there were people's who's life sucked so bad that they felt it was all downhill after 18. Now i see people reveling in fucking childhood shit like being a small child watching cartoons was peak life experience and it makes the guys wistful for High School grid iron glory seem like giga chads in comparison.
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I think you missed my joke, good sir.
An aside, I actually liked that shit movie. It was a decent sword and sandals flick.
You gotta forgive me, I am half awake right now because I have a doctor's appointment pretty soon.
But yea, it was 2000s entertaining popcorn kino.
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“At this point,” the neighbor told Stern, “Ezra explodes and started screaming directly into my face.”
In the aftermath of this confrontation, the neighbor claims that Miller turned his focus to the then-11-year-old, telling the child’s mother, “I’ve talked extensively with your child, and they have a lot of power to them
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In the aftermath of this confrontation, the neighbor claims that Miller turned his focus to the then-11-year-old, telling the child’s mother, “I’ve talked extensively with your child, and they have a lot of power to them
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It is just me or would that last sentence make you fly into a blind, murderous rage? You might as well hang a doorsign that says kid-diddler on it.
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It was also released on a holiday weekend as well, which I forgot about. Imagine having a release window including 2 holiday weekends in 3 weeks, and still failing this spectacularly. Speaking of failing spectacularly:
Weekend box office estimates are in, and they really did shitcan it in 1500 cinemas. While these are just estimates atm if they're accurate and comparing them to the release weekend, the Friday vs Friday numbers are down 94%, Saturday vs Saturday is down 87% and the Sunday vs Sunday is down 89%, in just 2 weeks.
The movie has crept up to a worldwide total of $245 million, which is admittedly better than my more pessimistic hopes/expectations, but still unbelievably, catastrophically bad. Between losing 1/3 of it's cinemas , and the news it'll be on streaming in just another fortnight, I doubt it'll make much more than another 20-30mil, at best. Even giving it the benefit of several doubts it clearly doesn't deserve, and assuming it somehow makes another $50 million to take it up to the 300mil range, that's still a loss of $300+ million, which means it's lost almost as much as the last couple of DCEU box office disasters combined.
Fun fact, while researching that I came to realize just how bad the DCEU's releases have been and did some quick napkin math. The last half dozen DCEU films have, depending on whether or not you believe The Rock's lies about Black Adam being profitable (which I don't), lost a combined total of the better part of a billion dollars.
Second fun fact? The guy responsible for the second biggest of those disasters is none other than James "now in charge of the entire fucking thing" Gunn.