Everyday Feminism - aka Everyday Autism

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Alec Benson Leary said:
Or how about "Nye-signaling"? It rolls off the tongue better.
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This isn't exactly novel, or a secret. People react strongly when you poke at their emotions. Facts don't have nearly as much valence. There's tremendous incentive to get your material as viral as possible, and that means resorting to this kind of behavior.
 
Wallace said:
This isn't exactly novel, or a secret. People react strongly when you poke at their emotions. Facts don't have nearly as much valence. There's tremendous incentive to get your material as viral as possible, and that means resorting to this kind of behavior.
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The lowest common denominator wins.

It's just so miserable to see the left delight in mocking the right for it, when they don't even hide their enthusiasm at doing the same.
 
Wallace said:
Hail Moloch!
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While I'd agree that it's easy to get a situation where 2 sides pointlessly rage at each other indefinitely and refuse to have a calm discussion - Gamergate, anyone? - I don't think the war on terrorism is a good example. Radical Islamists aren't particularly willing to settle things peacefully even if you don't get angry, and they aren't rational. The September 11 attacks were unprovoked, and the Islamic State has ended up fighting most of the world at once.

The modern Salafi jihadist movement started for various reasons which I won't derail the thread by describing in detail, but they include the growing prominence of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states, Islamisation in Pakistan as a response to popular conservative pressure, and the failure of secular nationalism to unite the Arab world. The Iraq war unleashed a surge of Islamist violence not because the invasion made people Islamist, but because it destroyed law and order in the country and allowed existing extremist movements to massively expand their membership and scope of violence in the resulting chaos.

There's a common tendency for these kinds of political bloggers to think the entire world revolves around Washington, which it doesn't, and never has.
 
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The thing that bothered me about the Louis CK show was that "angry fat woman" speech, which was an incel fat woman speech that could have come straight out of Elliot Roger's writings, yet it was celebrated all over women's sites like Jezebel because a women was saying it.
 
BurningPewter said:
The thing that bothered me about the Louis CK show was that "angry fat woman" speech, which was an incel fat woman speech that could have come straight out of Elliot Roger's writings, yet it was celebrated all over women's sites like Jezebel because a women was saying it.
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It's wrong, anyway, because there are chubby chaser men who do want women like that.
 
BurningPewter said:
The thing that bothered me about the Louis CK show was that "angry fat woman" speech, which was an incel fat woman speech that could have come straight out of Elliot Roger's writings, yet it was celebrated all over women's sites like Jezebel because a women was saying it.
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His show has had multiple points where he seems to glorify in self-deprecation for no better reason than being born a member of an ignoble class. There was another episode where some crazy violent lady on the street thinks Louis gave her a dirty look or something, Louis tries to diffuse it and walk away, but the woman ends up kicking the shit out of him. He won't swing back because he's a man and that would look bad, even just practically speaking - but then the rest of the episode everyone including his two prepubescent daughters mock him for losing a fight to a girl, and he doesn't offer a single word in defense of himself - or, you know, take this as a teaching moment to educate his goddamn children that people getting beat up isn't funny just because it happens to an "acceptable target". The whole plotline seems to carry that zero-sum tone that professional victims use to justify their prejudice and bullying; it falls short of being specifically stated but I kept expecting his internal monologue to come out with something to the extent of "well, I can take a beating now and again since she only makes 77¢ for every dollar I make" or some other apologist nonsense. Are his two daughters supposed to grow up thinking men deserve to get beat on because their safety is worth less than a woman's?

That said, the scene with the fat lady I'll disagree a bit on, it felt like she was being a little scornful toward the superficial standards that affect both men and women, and she also pointed out that someone like Louis who glorifies joking about letting himself go to the point that it forms the backbone of his career shouldn't be so picky - that last part is what redeems the speech for me, and even turns it against the incel shit in a way because she was calling out the very hypocrisy that HAES people employ like it's going out of style. The staple sitcom archetype of a schlubby, greasy guy married to a thin hot wife ten or more years his junior deserves to be called out, too.
 
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Splendid Meat Sticks said:
If KF can survive on donations indefinitely, then these exceptional individuals can too.
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Null isn't trying to pay a bunch of useless entitled hipsters money for their latte fund every month though.
EF could probably survive on donations and less staff but I doubt they really have people who know much about marketing or business, they got in this position for a reason, even if they get some tugboat for awhile it's not like they are going to come up with some amazing plan to turn things around and write less shitty articles. I give them two more months.
 
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EF is literally like if people just wrote bitchy tumblr blogs but got paid for it for some reason.

It's unsustainable. You can go read bitchy tumblr blogs written by screaming lunatics for free.
 
Every time they claim something isn't up for debate it only makes me want to debate it more.
 
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