Even Disinformation Experts Don’t Know How to Stop It

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Even Disinformation Experts Don’t Know How to Stop It

Researchers have learned plenty about misinformation and how it spreads. But they’re still struggling to figure out how to stop it.

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To fight disinformation in a chaotic election year, Ruth Quint, a volunteer for a nonpartisan civic group in Pennsylvania, is relying on tactics both extensively studied and frequently deployed. Many of them, however, may also be futile.

She has posted online tutorials for identifying fake social media accounts, created videos debunking conspiracy theories, flagged toxic content to a collaborative nationwide database and even participated in a pilot project that responded to misleading narratives by using artificial intelligence.

The problem: “I don’t have any idea if it’s working or not working,” said Ms. Quint, the co-president and webmaster of the League of Women Voters of Greater Pittsburgh, her home of five decades. “I just know this is what I feel like I should be doing.”

Holding the line against misinformation and disinformation is demoralizing and sometimes dangerous work, requiring an unusual degree of optimism and doggedness. Increasingly, however, even the most committed warriors are feeling overwhelmed by the onslaught of false and misleading content online.

Researchers have learned a great deal about the misinformation problem over the past decade: They know what types of toxic content are most common, the motivations and mechanisms that help it spread and who it often targets. The question that remains is how to stop it.

A critical mass of research now suggests that tools such as fact checks, warning labels, prebunking and media literacy are less effective and expansive than imagined, especially as they move from pristine academic experiments into the messy, fast-changing public sphere.

A megastudy conducted last year — the largest ever for testing interventions, with more than 33,000 participants — found mixed results. Interventions like warning labels and digital literacy training improved the ability of participants to judge true or false headlines by only about 5 to 10 percent. Those results are better than nothing, its authors said, but it pales in comparison to the enormous scale of digital misinformation.

“I find it hard to say that these initiatives have had a lot of success,” said Chico Q. Camargo, a senior lecturer in computer science at the University of Exeter who has argued that disinformation research needs reform.

Political experts worry that disinformation peddlers, equipped with increasingly sophisticated schemes, will be able to easily bypass weak defenses to influence election results — an increasingly urgent concern, as voters in countries around the globe head to the polls in hotly contested elections.

In the battleground state of Pennsylvania, Ms. Quint said that her efforts to educate audiences about common targets for disinformation — such as mail-in voting — once garnered tens of thousands of views on social media. But similar content now struggles to gain traction as platforms bury political posts. Seemingly neutral concepts — right and wrong, true and false — have become political minefields. Many voters, other than the most civically engaged, are mentally checking out.

It’s easy to feel outmatched, Ms. Quint’s peers have said, as they try to counter a flood of dangerous content with limited resources. Many face pressure from far-right forces pushing to recast the fight against misinformation as an attempt to enable censorship; several research groups have been dismantled or reorganized in the past two years. If the misinformation problem is a forest fire, then people like Ms. Quint, a recreational horticulturist, are wielding the equivalent of a garden hose.

“It’s really hard to get through to anybody,” she said, as orioles warbled in her yard.

At age 60, Ms. Quint is “the youngster” of her voters league board, she said. She uses casual language (“remember, it’s a conversation, not a contest”) and local slang (“here’s some news yinz can use”) in her efforts to reach, delicately, “the normal people in the middle” before defensiveness and distrust push them to the fringes.

These days, even talking about solutions is difficult. Disagreement rages about how to fix or even define the issue: Does misinformation include propaganda, satire or other gray areas of speech? Is good analysis possible when social media companies withhold so much of their data? Should successful solutions be measured by their ability to stop bad actors, slow the spread of bad information or win people over to the truth? Can those people actually be bothered to engage?

“It seems like an easy enough problem: there’s the true stuff and there’s the false stuff, and if the platforms cared about it, they would just get rid of the false stuff,” said David Rand, a professor of marketing at MIT Sloan who has studied disinformation for nearly a decade. “Then we started working on it and it was like, ‘Oh God.’ It’s actually way more complicated.”

Strategies like fact-checking and content moderation are often effective up to a point. Dozens of studies, for example, have explored using accuracy nudges — simple online reminders to keep accuracy in mind — to complement a suite of other anti-disinformation tools. The hope of many researchers is that, in tandem, multiple tactics may add up to something of a defense.

For many educators, however, their task feels Sisyphean — despite all of their efforts and overwhelming evidence, millions of people still believe false narratives about elections and vaccines. Many cite Brandolini’s Law, which states that far more energy is required to refute bad information than is needed to produce it.

“It’s really all a mess right now,” said Lara Putnam, a history professor at the University of Pittsburgh who works on disinformation in Pennsylvania. “Things that can break down trust began rapidly scaling over the past decade or so, whereas the things that can rebuild trust just do not scale.”

Still, the search for ways to improve information integrity continues.

At a conference at Stanford last year, speakers proposed redesigning online spaces to be less polarizing and instead more “prosocial” and collaborative. Last month, YouTube said it was running a pilot project that would allow users to add context to videos, similar to the “community notes” feature on X.

Some experts have even suggested, with some trepidation, that artificial intelligence could become “a new hall monitor for the internet” — one that is less expensive, slow-moving and emotionally fragile than human content moderators are.

“I think there’s a bit of a retrenchment in the field” around the subject of misinformation, said Jonathan Stray, a speaker at the Stanford conference and a senior scientist at the Center for Human-Compatible Artificial Intelligence, a research center at the University of California, Berkeley. “But we don’t want to abandon the project.”

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If you haven't figured out why people believe "disinformation" in the face of evidence which contradicts it, then you haven't learned a fucking thing in the last decade. Or maybe they do know, they just can't say it out loud without getting cancelled by their allies.

Combating disinformation, hate speech, and violence sounds great... right up until you find out who gets to define what constitutes disinformation, hate speech, and violence and how they use that definition to advance their own agenda.
 
You stop it by building trust with the public and not spreading disinformation yourself, but that's clearly too hard for the elites
 
Ms. Quint, the co-president and webmaster of the League of Women Voters of Greater Pittsburgh
When people with these sorts of job descriptions are your enemies, you know you're on the right side of the war.
 
How about we admit that the experts aren’t actually experts instead of trying to explain why it’s okay that they’re not perfect. There. done boom. problem solved.
 
Maybe it's better if you don't try to stop it. Force people to think more critically about the information they absorb. Force them to do more research if they don't want to believe in lies all the time.
 
Maybe it's better if you don't try to stop it. Force people to think more critically about the information they absorb. Force them to do more research if they don't want to believe in lies all the time.

People believe that <insert disinformation here> is true for the same reason that a different group of people believe that a new set of pronouns and cross-sex hormones makes them a woman-or some other third gender option. They believe it because they want to believe it. They need the false belief to be true. They are emotionally invested in this belief. Anything that threatens that belief is viewed as a threat to themselves, personally. If the false belief is proven false, it strikes at their identity and jeopardizes their status among their peers. Therefore, they will refuse to listen to anything that contradicts their belief and attack whoever is trying to dispel their belief as a Bad Person. It is almost impossible to convince someone that X is false when their self-esteem is built on a foundation of X being true.

The next logical step would be to dig deeper to find out what makes people so emotionally invested in their false beliefs, but doing so might reveal some other inconvenient truths, like people troon out due to being groomed or to prey on women, or that all those Trump voters in the Rust Belt have some legitimate grievances about the way the country is run. This contradicts the beliefs that progressives hold, so they refuse to listen, or at least refuse to admit it aloud.

The best lie that you can tell someone is a lie that they are motivated to believe: something that confirms their suspicious, allays their fears, encourages their aspirations, or helps them cast stones at their enemies. Add in a social reward for spreading the lie, and a social punishment for not participating in the lie, and you're got a drug that makes crack look like Diet Coke by comparison. This is why all of the “disinformation experts” out there are doomed to fail. People will not think critically about what they hear on social media because that is not where the incentives lie.
 
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The problem: “I don’t have any idea if it’s working or not working,” said Ms. Quint, the co-president and webmaster of the League of Women Voters of Greater Pittsburgh, her home of five decades. “I just know this is what I feel like I should be doing.”
Lmao yeah that's the fucking problem alright.

Edit:the entire disinformation industry is built on doing shit that doesn't work, but the 'expert' feels it is necessary anyway.
 
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1. “Non-partisan”

Yeah, I don’t believe you. That’s like saying the Green Party is a third party.

2. “Expert”

I stopped believing in those unless they do both application and theory.
 
At age 60, Ms. Quint is “the youngster” of her voters league board, she said. She uses casual language (“remember, it’s a conversation, not a contest”) and local slang (“here’s some news yinz can use”) in her efforts to reach, delicately, “the normal people in the middle” before defensiveness and distrust push them to the fringes.
How do you do, fellow kids?
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Almost like you can't win by fighting something that doesn't exist the way you WANT it to.

Just like how the only answer to "How could the Nazis have won WWII?" is "They'd have to not have been Nazis"? Because the instant they try, in any honest scenario? As a fascist and totalitarian military' power that is needlessly aggressive to neighbors and punitive to it's citizens and accordingly makes choices on ideological instead of strategic reasons? They are guaranteed run out of materials and make enemies too fast to have a chance to do anything BUT eventually lose.

Well, similarly, the only way to "beat" misinformation is to stop trying. It's a thing that exists independent of the consent of the academic, the activist, and the "experts" . Attempts to quash it only frustrate people and turn them against you and create MORE of it faster than you can keep crushing it AND lay out your defense that you used some pretty scummy tactics, but, it was all for everyone's good....

But they can't accept that.

Why?

Too much invested ego, lying to themselves that they deserve to rule the world. And it hinges on them being unquestionably right on everything.

Their fundamental mindset is a belief that understanding say, statistics and probabilities doesn't just mean they "get" the odds of the games in a casino. They honestly believe their intimate knowledge makes it more likely they'll WIN. Thus throwing out EVERYTHIN they knew that was right in the process to push a falsehood that no more study is needed, the right path is known and recursively vindicated by the fact that THEY came up with it. This is the fundamental flaw of "Right Side of History" believers.

They don't just know what's "best" - they know it on a metaphysical level you can't understand (and thus can't question).

That's why the modern "expert" isn't an expert at anything except pushing their credentials and worldview on you.\

They aren't trying to convince YOU they're right, they're trying to convince THEMSELVES that they're philosopher kings.

The modern expert is a person who thinks reality itself has to conform to the predictions of the expert.

Their odd behavior makes a lot more sense when you realize this.
 
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'Disinformation expert" is a cute way to say propagandist.
It's literally a PR term they came up with a few years ago. You can check Google Trends and such to see how fast terms like "disinformation" and "misinformation" rise after 2018 or so. Basically it's Ministry of Truth-tier shit since their belief system holds that their is a single truth which is as obvious as "the sky is blue" but the only reason people don't believe it is because they aren't doing enough work stopping misinformation/disinformation.
 
It would help if they stopped trying to use "disinformation" as a way to describe "different opinion."
Actually I believe it stemmed from DEI Shaniqua mispronouncing “this information”, at least that’s what I’ve deluded myself in believing because it’s funnier than the current sad reality we live in.
 
"why don't you accept MY propaganda" wall of text cope. This study once again proves that academia is just a "I made it up" larp for goverments and the facade is falling down. They are seething at the fact that shit posts, memes and effort posts are more true and predicts more accurately (in political spaces) than academic research ever could.

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