EU Europe Has Received the Message - Without America to rely on, the EU is gearing up to be a global power in its own right.

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The European Union is finally on its way to becoming a power in its own right. That’s not because its member countries have suddenly stopped squabbling or its bureaucratic inertia has melted away. It’s because the past four years have produced an unremitting state of crisis. Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was the beginning. Now the imperative comes from Donald Trump’s repositioning of the United States as something close to an antagonist.

Without the guarantee of American cooperation and NATO protection, the EU is newly vulnerable. And in response, in the past year, it has delivered a series of firsts that amount to a quiet revolution in how it exercises power.

In May, the EU decided, for the first time, to help finance defense spending for its 27 member states by taking on EU-wide debt. This move came from the realization that even serious spending hikes in individual countries—European states have doubled their defense outlays since 2015—would vary widely given the economic disparities. Germany, for instance, plans to invest roughly $77 billion over five years, meaning that by 2030, its defense budget could be the world’s third largest. But that kind of spending is not possible for countries that already carry more debt, and confronting Russian President Vladimir Putin, potentially without U.S. backing, will require the rearmament of all. To this end, the EU has now established an extraordinary instrument, called Security Action for Europe, or SAFE, that is prepared to fund up to $178 billion in upgrades to the continent’s capacity to produce and procure arms.

For the first time, Europe will essentially protect its defense industry. “European preference” was long dismissed as a French fantasy. But that was when buying U.S. weapons was a premium that allies paid for American protection. Now Trump has signaled that the deal is off: He talks with Putin over the heads of the Europeans and has suggested that America’s NATO commitments are a fiction. So European states that use SAFE funding will be required to procure more European-made weapons and parts than not. That priority has also been written into Europe’s recently agreed-on $107 billion debt-financed Ukraine package, which restricts Kyiv to purchasing European-made arms to the extent possible.

In general, European countries are making a point of reducing their dependence on the United States. Germany currently plans to spend only 8 percent of its rearmament budget on U.S. arms. It is even developing its own satellite-communications network to replace Starlink. Most striking, European capitals for the first time seek to address the core of Europe’s dependence: the American nuclear umbrella. Germany and Sweden are in talks with France and the United Kingdom on a potential European nuclear deterrent. Poland and the Netherlands have expressed an interest in joining.

Europe is benefiting economically from all of these changes in defense posture. In equity markets, homegrown defense firms outperformed the top seven U.S. tech stocks last year. And the defense firms are productive: Germany’s Rheinmetall will soon be able to produce more artillery shells than the entire U.S. defense industry. And EU leaders are currently considering applying the “buy European” provisions that have helped boost arms manufacturing to other industries, such as digital services and green technologies.

The EU once defined itself as a champion of open markets. Today it’s reassessing that commitment in light of its need for self-reliance. Berlin is planning to exclude Chinese suppliers from its 6G network and is testing an open-source alternative to Microsoft. The French government has replaced Zoom with a domestic video-conferencing platform. Together with reducing its dependence on the United States and China, Brussels is cultivating other relationships. In recent weeks it has concluded far-reaching free-trade agreements with members of the Mercosur trade bloc (Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, and Paraguay) and India.

The way that Europe makes decisions is changing to meet the moment, and these changes are perhaps the most crucial of all the “firsts.” In the past, EU members had to unanimously agree before Brussels could adopt policies on matters of particular sensitivity. Former German Chancellor Angela Merkel fiercely defended this rule. But today’s leaders have come to accept that abandoning it is the price of geopolitical relevance. In December, the EU invoked an emergency legal provision to bypass the unanimity requirement in order to freeze Russian assets indefinitely. That same month, the EU approved its debt-financed Ukraine package, also without unanimous approval: Hungary, Slovakia, and Czechia were pushed to opt out rather than veto it.

Europe is not yet a fully autonomous power, and it won’t become one tomorrow. But thanks to Trump, a transformation is under way. With each new first, others become thinkable. The decisive question is whether Europe can stay this course. A super-election year looms in 2027, when France, Italy, Spain, and Poland will all hold votes. Victories by the far right—especially in France and Poland—could derail the current trajectory.

Or not: EU approval is at 74 percent, a record high. Young far-right politicians may well understand that returning to the nation-state means choosing powerlessness.

This may be the outcome that leaders in Washington, Moscow, and Beijing prefer. But in their effort to fragment Europe into pliable nation-states, they are instead galvanizing its slow-motion march toward self-determination.

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This is going to be the funniest fucking thing we've ever witnessed Europe try to do on their own for decades. God this is going to be great.
So how long until Russia steamrolls through the nations shitass armies and starts gobbling up land?
 
Americans still want to fight and die for their country. Europeans if they want to fight and die at all, will only do so against their countries.

We are not the same.

Ironically the message America is trying to send to Europe is that this state of affairs is fucked. Funny how the eurocrats dont seem to ubderstand the problem at all.
 
So how long until Russia steamrolls through the nations shitass armies and starts gobbling up land?
I'm hoping for an unseen Hitler 2.0 to rise up and actually win this time and finally clean that fucking continent up while we sit back and go "we told you stupid faggots not to let it get this bad. We fucking told you."
 
This sounds like something my little five-and-a-half-year-old granddaughter would make up, but don't think she knows or cares Europe exists.

You have more than one Europe. The first Europe, and one gaining in strength, is Poland/Finland/the Baltics/Sweden. At one time or another, every one of these countries have fought Russia. with varying degrees of success. Way back when, the Poland-Lithuania combine dominated that area of the world, including parts of Russia. These people will fight again. And if you notice, the US deploys troops there and rotates troops/aircraft in and out of this area.

The next Europe is Central Europe and the Balkans. Hungary, Czechia, Slovak Republic, Romania, Bulgaria, Greece, Albania, Moldova, Serbia, Croatia, Macedonia, Slovenia, Turkey-in-Europe, think I got them all. Only country that counts themselves as Russia's friend is Serbia, and they pose no threat to the rest of Europe. Suggest the rest, except for Turkey, will follow the first group's lead, to varying extents. Turkey has their own issues with Russia.

The third Europe is Western Europe, plus the UK and Norway. While this is the part of Europe with the potential to rearm the continent, they have all sorts of problems, starting with a weakness of will. They'd still rather the USA do all the heavy lifting. The first Europe knows they would need some US help but are willing to go toe-to-toe conventionally against Russia. If this group ever put their balls back in their collective scrotums, given time they could fashion a conventional deterrent to Russia. As things stand, now Germany's looking into F-35s and Poland builds South Korean tanks under license, having already bought a bunch.

The Euros can verbally masturbate all they want under our defense umbrella, but until they start bending metal and standing up more army divisions, fighter wings, and warships that's all the Euros will do. They'll feel in their pants to see if they did anything and look to Washington, as they have since the 1940's.
 
I'm hoping for an unseen Hitler 2.0 to rise up and actually win this time and finally clean that fucking continent up while we sit back and go "we told you stupid faggots not to let it get this bad. We fucking told you."
Von Der Leyen is already Hitler 2.0 of the left
Victories by the far right—especially in France and Poland—could derail the current trajectory.
Yeah, because they might choose to empower and build the armies of individual nations separately instead of trying to make a globalist commie bureaucrat led EU army
Young far-right politicians may well understand that returning to the nation-state means choosing powerlessness.
Bullshit, they're trying to make it a false dichotomy, as if Europe would be powerless without an EU army: the EU would be powerless, yes, but fuck this commie dictatorship from Brussels, individual nations would be far better off with governments that actually cared about their own people and had their own armies.

The problem is it's a bit too late to talk about strengthening armies and building up industries if you're talking about trying to fight off an attempted invasion attempt. EU's policies in the past 20 years to force everyone to use alternative energy has made it expensive and made the majority of manufacturing industries unviable and shut them down. Entire industries lost in competition to foreign nations with cheaper energy. To reverse this process would take decades, after a complete reversal (removal) of "green" energy policies and "carbon" taxes. Building new or restarting existing power plants, rebuilding factories (many of which have scrapped or sold off their machines to the aforementioned foreign competitors like China, and it will take a lot of time to first make the machines themselves to even think about restarting the plant again).

And with what population and what manpower do they intend to do it? With the native Europeans that have been shrinking for decades due to prolonged recessions and ever more taxes and restrictions, losing jobs and losing their abilities to provide for themselves? With the imported foreigners, making a mercenary army? Armies made from foreigners have historically performed poorly as they have no loyalty to whom they are supposed to be fighting for.

The best outcome would be for the EU to fall apart so that all the nation states would be finally free from the regulatory and bureaucratic burden of the EU, and each with their own currency, and with no restrictions on how much or which energy sources they can use, rebuild their own industries and make their own armies.
 
Europe can’t even defend its borders from muzzies and spear chuckers and they’re wanting to become a world power? Lmao, lol even

The flyover state men of South Dakota by itself can conquer the entirety of Europe if we really wanted to
 
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The European Union cannot be a power in its own right. If you want a true Euro power you have to build one, as you once were.
 
We are now on year 4 of Europe will rearm. Progress bar is at 0%. The underlying economic conditions necessary to bring it off are also not being created

The United States hasn't rebuilt defense production as fast as it should, but it has actually made real progress and it wasn't starting from a totally fucked situation either
 
I think in order for Europe to actually do this they would need to start denying asylum claims and refugee status to foreign entities, which is highly unlikely unless they admit the migration crisis was real and that those against mass immigration were correct all along. No politician wants to swallow down the bitter pill of admitting their political opponents had a point and were actually correct in their assessment and admitting they were wrong.
 
I can't believe Europe's standing up out of the cuck chair for real this time... China's probably shivering in her boots!
 
The question is whether the people they are importing are willing to fight for Europe.

Spoiler: They aren't
 
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