Euro migrant crisis

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/02/europe/europe-migrant-crisis/index.html

People from the middle east, mostly Syria are fleeing to Europe because of war and poverty. People are dieing just trying to cross the Mediterranean. The EU is trying to solve the crisis while other countries are closing their borders.

 

[Red_Rager]

Linda Hagen of Hero, a private company that runs 40 percent of Norway's reception centres for refugees, explained that the aim is to help asylum-seekers 'avoid mistakes as they discover Norwegian culture'.

'There's no single cultural code to say what is good or bad behaviour because we want a free society,' she said.

'There has to be tolerance for attitudes that may be seen as immoral by some traditional or religious norms.'

I would love to hear the explanation of why should tolerate the raping of women and children, because it is an accepted part of their cultural norn. Do go on and explain.

 

[Cosmos]

They might just go to some other European country.

Y'know, this makes me wonder what kind of information sharing is available to European refugee bureaus. I'm sure whatever forms have to be filled out, they have a field for "have you ever been convicted of blah blah blah". But self reporting isn't enough.

A big list of people who got kicked out of a EU country for violent crime would be pretty useful, I'd imagine.

Other questions that would be useful in determining who deserves to come to Europe:

• How do you feel about Jews?
• Should women be allowed to wear whatever and interact with whoever they want?
• How important do you think it is to maintain a separation between church and state? And should religious laws ever be implemented in a nation's justice system?
• Does a woman ever deserve to be assaulted?
• Should a person be punished for leaving Islam?
• Do you believe that free speech is a fundamental right? And that even speech that is inflammatory towards religion, politics, and other personal beliefs deserves to be protected?
• Could you be friends or even acquaintances with someone who doesn't share some of your beliefs? Are you willing to overlook ideological differences and be tolerant towards others?
• Regardless of whether you approve of homosexual behavior, do you believe that gay people deserve the same rights as straight people?

I guarantee you that a lot of these people aren't smart enough to lie, or they've been so indoctrinated that they honestly believe their backwards beliefs are correct.

 

[Mark Corrigan]

Other questions that would be useful in determining who deserves to come to Europe:

• How do you feel about Jews?

This is a loaded question. Liking Jews just because they're Jews is as silly as disliking them for that reason alone.

 

[Cosmos]

This is a loaded question. Liking Jews just because they're Jews is as silly as disliking them for that reason alone.

That's not what I meant, although the question could be worded better. It's just that the easiest way to find out whether someone is an Islamist is to bring up Jews; Islamists (please note how I'm using the term Islamist instead of Muslim) bash Jews so viciously that they practically froth at the mouth when they talk about them.

Asking a question about Jews isn't so much about finding the people who say "I love Jews!" as it would be about finding the ones who say things like "The Jews are filthy swine and are the greatest menace facing us today; may Allah strike them down and send them to hell!"

 

[Butta Face Lopez]

"There has to be tolerance for attitudes that may be seen as immoral by some traditional or religious norms."

That's certainly an interesting take on the gang rape of a toddler.

 

[ivyleaf]

I'm taking language classes with a group of migrants, and for the most part they behave themselves here (Belgium)

 

[Male Idiot]

I'm taking language classes with a group of migrants, and for the most part they behave themselves here (Belgium)

You most likely have a list of their names and they are afraid they will be found out if they try to commit something. Sorry for being a cynic.

On an informative note, weapons of self defence are sold out in Germany and Austria and Hungary, and most likely in other countries too. Not an unrelated coincidence.

"There has to be tolerance for attitudes that may be seen as immoral by some traditional or religious norms."

That's certainly an interesting take on the gang rape of a toddler.

Feminists that believe this should be made to study Sharia law. Just lie to them (They are idiots, they won't know) that a white guy wrote it, and watch them foam at the mouth and have seisures. After that, tell them it is in reality the muslim law.

This is a loaded question. Liking Jews just because they're Jews is as silly as disliking them for that reason alone.

If they got 3 options :
- Jews are awesome and I want Mel Brooks as king of the world.
- I don't care it is all neutral.
- Jews are infidels that will be stabbed for the glory of allah!

Then you can surely bet they will choose the last option. As Cosmos said, they go berzerk at even the mention of Israel. If you would ask them if they wanted to punch a rabbi, they would yell "YEEES!"

 

[QI 541]

They might just go to some other European country.

Y'know, this makes me wonder what kind of information sharing is available to European refugee bureaus. I'm sure whatever forms have to be filled out, they have a field for "have you ever been convicted of blah blah blah". But self reporting isn't enough.

A big list of people who got kicked out of a EU country for violent crime would be pretty useful, I'd imagine.

Fake passports aren't that difficult to get though, and I'm not sure exile is an appropriate punishment for violent crimes in the EU.

 

[Male Idiot]

Fake passports aren't that difficult to get though, and I'm not sure exile is an appropriate punishment for violent crimes in the EU.

I would say lead poisoning would be better, but I doubt Murrika would let that be done. It is only cool when they do it to some poor Mexican.

 

[QI 541]

Exile isn't that much of a punishment for refugees but it'll get rid of the violent ones. Putting them in prison is a punishment, (though some people might prefer prison) but it drains resources and they'll likely cause more problems when they get out. Execution both punishes and gets rid of violent refugees, but it's not an option.

Exile is probably the best option actually.

 

[Asandy31]

I'm taking language classes with a group of migrants, and for the most part they behave themselves here (Belgium)

Belgium is such a great country, but it's under a microscope now for a reason

"There has to be tolerance for attitudes that may be seen as immoral by some traditional or religious norms."

That's certainly an interesting take on the gang rape of a toddler.

Agreed, I've never seen anything in anything about the gang rape of a 3 year old boy getting you closer to god, which is what most religious text and aspects of religions embedded in culture seem to be about...getting closer to god that is

 

[Billpalazzo-sama]

I'm taking language classes with a group of migrants, and for the most part they behave themselves here (Belgium)

You most likely have a list of their names and they are afraid they will be found out if they try to commit something. Sorry for being a cynic.

I think it might be more of a selection bias thing: The migrants who can't be bothered to learn how to behave in a new place probably aren't going to go to the trouble to learn new languages, thus a language class is going to be composed mostly of those who are willing to assimilate.

 

[Cosmos]

So I was reading a Cracked article (don't judge) on recent events and, tellingly, the Cologne attacks weren't mentioned. This was brought up in quite a few comments. Luckily, a Kool-Aid drinker named Sasha was there to enlighten them. Please notice the complete lack of concern for the victims of the attacks, something that's been shared by all the people covering up and making excuses for the rape mobs.

Spoiler: Sasha's comments and how people have replied to them

Also, take note of the upvotes/downvotes. Even on a ridiculously (and yet increasingly) liberal site like Cracked, people are getting fed up with this rhetoric.

 

[vertexwindi]

That's not surprising. Every day, more covered up crimes see the light. The government and the media try to cover it up to prevent enraging its citizens, only enraging citizens further. There's a shift all over.

It's rather depressing to be living in Europe right now.

 

[CWCissey]

That's not surprising. Every day, more covered up crimes see the light. The government and the media try to cover it up to prevent enraging its citizens, only enraging citizens further. There's a shift all over.

It's rather depressing to be living in Europe right now.

Doubly so in Britain due to us wanting to distance ourselves from Europe. Cameron desperately saying 'It's just a little rapey, it's still good, it's still good' and Corbyn the Commie just encouraging these people doesn't help matters.

 

[vertexwindi]

Yeah and then Rotherham happened. Proof enough that these twats will do anything to appear progressive. Cunts.

 

[Male Idiot]

"Free speech no longer exists, only -- straight out of totalitarian ideologies -- "responsible" free speech: "free" only if it does not "offend" anyone. That is not free speech; that is censored speech. Speech that does not offend anyone does not need protecting."

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7223/europe-self-destruction

This pretty much sums it up.

Doubly so in Britain due to us wanting to distance ourselves from Europe. Cameron desperately saying 'It's just a little rapey, it's still good, it's still good' and Corbyn the Commie just encouraging these people doesn't help matters.

This is also very popular in Hungary and, if my limited information is correct, Slovakia would rather leave the EU than accept any migrants.

I recall the time a few months ago when the whole world hated on our middle-right leader*, now Poland, Slovakia, Czecz Republic and even the UK and Denmark are starting to follow us.

I do hope the EU manages to break apart. It is just not a workable concept, even less so than the SU was.

*The hungarian goverment is conservative-light nationalist. The only opposition party that matters is the extreme right party. All other parties are as important as US third parties.
So even if the EU got what it wanted and toppled our regime, the only replacement would be a far more extreme nationalist one. So its not a viable option.

 

[CWCissey]

"Free speech no longer exists, only -- straight out of totalitarian ideologies -- "responsible" free speech: "free" only if it does not "offend" anyone. That is not free speech; that is censored speech. Speech that does not offend anyone does not need protecting."

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7223/europe-self-destruction

This pretty much sums it up.



This is also very popular in Hungary and, if my limited information is correct, Slovakia would rather leave the EU than accept any migrants.

I recall the time a few months ago when the whole world hated on our middle-right leader*, now Poland, Slovakia, Czecz Republic and even the UK and Denmark are starting to follow us.

I do hope the EU manages to break apart. It is just not a workable concept, even less so than the SU was.

*The hungarian goverment is conservative-light nationalist. The only opposition party that matters is the extreme right party. All other parties are as important as US third parties.
So even if the EU got what it wanted and toppled our regime, the only replacement would be a far more extreme nationalist one. So its not a viable option.

Yeah as far as I'm concerned, the EU should be a trading bloc, and nothing more. There is no need for the overarching political union some countries seem to strive for.

 

[Male Idiot]

Yeah as far as I'm concerned, the EU should be a trading bloc, and nothing more. There is no need for the overarching political union some countries seem to strive for.

That was what it was at first. That's why the Eastern countries joined it. We wanted a trading bloc, NOTHING MORE.

We did not want USSR2: The blue edition. So the EU either needs very serious reforms, or we need to get out of it fast. We have been there with the Soviets, we don't want to do it all over again.

 

[Mark Corrigan]

If they got 3 options :
- Jews are awesome and I want Mel Brooks as king of the world.
- I don't care it is all neutral.
- Jews are infidels that will be stabbed for the glory of allah!

Then you can surely bet they will choose the last option. As Cosmos said, they go berzerk at even the mention of Israel. If you would ask them if they wanted to punch a rabbi, they would yell "YEEES!"

Wait, are you talking about Jews or Israel now? Because as far as the latter is concerned, every decent human being should have at least several objections.

Also

That was what it was at first. That's why the Eastern countries joined it. We wanted a trading bloc, NOTHING MORE.

We did not want USSR2: The blue edition. So the EU either needs very serious reforms, or we need to get out of it fast. We have been there with the Soviets, we don't want to do it all over again.

You have no right to speak for all Eastern European countries. I know people who were in favour of joining EU *precisely* with hopes for a superstate that could become a global power in its own right, stand up to the US and whatever became of the USSR without being reduced to a simple free trade pact that would fall to corporate influence in a decade.