Euphoric atheists

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

didn't bother to remove that sin

Laughs on the cross.

 

[DaBigBopper]

Isn't the entire atheist criticism of Eden that God didn't just make human beings robots? Typically even secular materialists have to relent that human beings are not complex machines or an up-jumped monkey. Human's aren't just an animal, once standards for self-preservation are met you see behavior that isn't seen in other animals. They had the capacity to disobey even in the perfection of Eden, prior to eating the fruit (from what I understand original sin is bigger then disobeying, but the shame and blame game after the fact where basically Adam and Eve throw each other under the bus because their knowledge of the concept of mortality is freaking them out.)

 

[I Love Beef]

Isn't the entire atheist criticism of Eden that God didn't just make human beings robots? Typically even secular materialists have to relent that human beings are not complex machines or an up-jumped monkey. Human's aren't just an animal, once standards for self-preservation are met you see behavior that isn't seen in other animals. They had the capacity to disobey even in the perfection of Eden, prior to eating the fruit (from what I understand original sin is bigger then disobeying, but the shame and blame game after the fact where basically Adam and Eve throw each other under the bus because their knowledge of the concept of mortality is freaking them out.)

The entire atheist criticism of Christianity; religion in general is "Why isn't God serving me hand and foot, and doing anything nice for anybody all the time?"

 

[Cherry Eyed Hamster]

Isn't the entire atheist criticism of Eden that God didn't just make human beings robots? Typically even secular materialists have to relent that human beings are not complex machines or an up-jumped monkey. Human's aren't just an animal, once standards for self-preservation are met you see behavior that isn't seen in other animals. They had the capacity to disobey even in the perfection of Eden, prior to eating the fruit (from what I understand original sin is bigger then disobeying, but the shame and blame game after the fact where basically Adam and Eve throw each other under the bus because their knowledge of the concept of mortality is freaking them out.)

That’s an interesting perspective but I’ve never heard euphoric atheists have arguments this compelling.

The entire atheist criticism of Christianity; religion in general is "Why isn't God serving me hand and foot, and doing anything nice for anybody all the time?"

Yeah even the “intellectual” atheist argument videos fall down this path.

 

[Irredemable Retardation]

Isn't the entire atheist criticism of Eden that God didn't just make human beings robots? Typically even secular materialists have to relent that human beings are not complex machines or an up-jumped monkey.

Lol, there are some atheist philosophers that propose the idea of consciousness being a illusion. Extreme reductionists (that are controversial even inside this crowd) go on to say that free will is not real, citing the also divisive Libet experiments often.

 

[Adamska]

Isn't the entire atheist criticism of Eden that God didn't just make human beings robots? Typically even secular materialists have to relent that human beings are not complex machines or an up-jumped monkey. Human's aren't just an animal, once standards for self-preservation are met you see behavior that isn't seen in other animals.

Self preservation's common in most animals. Even microbes will try to preserve themselves. If you meant sapience, us being the only ones that have it is also iffy given quite a few animals can recognize themselves in the mirror and develop a sense of identity. Mainly other apes, but it does include some cetaceans like dolphins and whales.

They had the capacity to disobey even in the perfection of Eden, prior to eating the fruit (from what I understand original sin is bigger then disobeying, but the shame and blame game after the fact where basically Adam and Eve throw each other under the bus because their knowledge of the concept of mortality is freaking them out.)

Original sin by the by didn't become a codified doctrine in Christianity until the 4th century, courtesy of St. Augustine. Prior to that, it was closer to the concept of Pandora's box, where Adam's decision to disobey and eat the fruit of knowledge is the act that brought sin into the world. After all, you have to know what just and unjust is in order to sin.

 

[DaBigBopper]

Self preservation's common in most animals. Even microbes will try to preserve themselves. If you meant sapience, us being the only ones that have it is also iffy given quite a few animals can recognize themselves in the mirror and develop a sense of identity. Mainly other apes, but it does include some cetaceans like dolphins and whales.

It's more that humans carry a lot of trait that are expanded that aren't seen in animals. The language capacity of apes is not that impressive (considering a lot of the frauds like Coco the Gorilla, and Chimps doing memory exercises can lead them to actually get depressed and researchers need to give them uppers). When humans have enough food, safe shelter, and lack of stressors you see a host of shit you generally don't see in one single animal.

Original sin by the by didn't become a codified doctrine in Christianity until the 4th century, courtesy of St. Augustine. Prior to that, it was closer to the concept of Pandora's box, where Adam's decision to disobey and eat the fruit of knowledge is the act that brought sin into the world. After all, you have to know what just and unjust is in order to sin.

Yeah, there are a few Theologians that go into that. I think Lewis laid out a few ideas of it, but it's been a bit.

 

[Irredemable Retardation]

It's more that humans carry a lot of trait that are expanded that aren't seen in animals. The language capacity of apes is not that impressive (considering a lot of the frauds like Coco the Gorilla, and Chimps doing memory exercises can lead them to actually get depressed and researchers need to give them uppers). When humans have enough food, safe shelter, and lack of stressors you see a host of shit you generally don't see in one single animal.

But animals are still conscious and it's implied that ones from different families manifest individual personalities and social structures. (If you agree with what Science Inc. says in this case)
The thing that makes humans "special" is the great capability of exchanging and saving information, aka language.
Science Inc. seeks a evolutionary answer, some say it was either a random evolutionary trait or the mere result of humans getting higher brainpower after discovering the fire and the food consumption changing.

 

[jonnyufd3]

Tired of r/atheism. They get away with shit that lesser subreddits would get banned for

 

[RedneckQuadFeed]

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

Holidays are great time for Reddit Atheist sperging.


Nigga, you can say thanks for thinking of me when you were out.


Literal childlike behavior.


Based sister, lmao.

 

[RedneckQuadFeed]

"No one's trying to take anything from you", says the grifters.

 

[Positron]

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Based sister, lmao.

She might worry that the brother who lets his son wear dresses might be a groomer,or at the very least introduce groomer material to other kids.

And to be fair a pastor who uses the pulpit as his political soapbox is a good reason for refusing to attend his service, or even to change church.

 

[Pikapool]

She might worry that the brother who lets his son wear dresses might be a groomer,or at the very least introduce groomer material to other kids.

And to be fair a pastor who uses the pulpit as his political soapbox is a good reason for refusing to attend his service, or even to change church.

The thing about the pastor story is how true I'd that story considering what these people consider is political

 

[Weeby Catto]

The thing about the pastor story is how true I'd that story considering what these people consider is political

Right, maybe even saying lgbtq is a sin is political.
Whereas they've actually been trying to insert trans into the bible, and if the pastor comments about that, it's probably called political.

 

[Colonel Gaddafi]

Are there any euphorics you un-ironically enjoy?

I watch Telltale as background noise sometimes, it’s interesting to hear his take on JWs as an ex member, but his grip on basic theology is dogshit. For example, his insistence (despite being an atheist?) that the Trinity isn’t a real, core component of Christianity. This was settled during the First Council of Nicaea in regards to Arianism in 325 AD. It’s been literally the main teaching of Christianity since its inception, the only ‘Christians’ who debate it are weird cult groups like Mormons, JWs, Oneness Pentecostals, etc. It’s an interesting look at someone who fancies themselves as intellectual and free, but still holds on to JW behavior (publicly shaming his mother via YouTube) and belief systems. His video on Roman Catholicism being a ‘cult’ made me wince at how poorly researched it was.

That being said, I enjoy his videos in regards to statements and propaganda the Watchtower puts out for JWs. How anyone stays in that clusterfuck of a religion is beyond me.

 

[Dread First]

Are there any euphorics you un-ironically enjoy?

I enjoy watching Neil DeGrasse Tyson undermine his tenure as an academic by being an ill-informed wet blanket. We all know he's a retarded Santa-denier who justifies his lunacy with arbitrary numbers. But did you know that he's also horrendously ill-informed with the most basic of medieval Near Eastern history? His statements of Abu Hamid al-Ghazali being responsible for ending the Islamic Golden Age is fucking wilfully ignorant at best and blatantly incendiary at its absolute worst.

Excellent video about al-Ghazali by Let's Talk Religion with relevant timestamp. If you don't wish to watch, in essence: Al-Ghazali himself was, like most Islamic Golden Age scholars, both a devout Muslim and an extremely well-read polymath. Al-Ghazali himself actually loved mathematics as a means of providing empirical proof of God's works. Al-Ghazali's methodology actually drew quite heavily from عقل (trasnlit: "aql"; meaning "reasoning," "intellect," things of that nature), contrary to what Tyson postulates.

Also, that fuckface forgot to mention the most important thing of all: the motherfucking Sack of Baghdad by the Mongol Hordes.

Seriously, I can respect the man's credentials as a person of the disciplines. But as a historian, and as a general human being? He's no better than a euphoric atheist lolcow.

 

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That being said, I enjoy his videos in regards to statements and propaganda the Watchtower puts out for JWs. How anyone stays in that clusterfuck of a religion is beyond me.

They don't. JWs grind so hard for converts because it's a revolving door. I crunched the numbers on Pew's big religion survey and something like 70% of people who were raised JW end up leaving at some point.

Fun JW thing: The high-ranking Watchtower members all wear a gold ring on the ring finger of their right hand. Once you see it you can't unsee it. This is some straight up Rosicrucian shit and I love it.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Neil DeGrasse Tyson

There's also his famous tweet that Spain was cool because they invested in exploration and shit, found America and took all the gold, while those stupid Italians only built useless churches.
Joke's on him since Italy has a greater GDP than Spain these days, in part for tourism to see churches, while Spain squandered its American loot in retarded wars for nothing AND church building, which too act as a massive tourist attraction.
Also Christopher Columbus was an Italian.
And also Spain exists at all in large part due to Christianity.

 

[Dread First]

There's also his famous tweet that Spain was cool because they invested in exploration and shit, found America and took all the gold, while those stupid Italians only built useless churches.
Joke's on him since Italy has a greater GDP than Spain these days, in part of tourism to see churches, while Spain squandered its American loot in retarded wars for nothing AND church building, which too act a massive tourist attraction.
Also Christopher Columbus was an Italian.
And also Spain exists at all in large part due to Christianity.

And that the Caravel was invented by the Portuguese. C'mon man, you gotta give that piece of shit rectangle their due too! They got fucked by the Catholic Church with regard to how the New World was handled, but they still held onto Brasil and their outposts in Africa and India for much longer than Spain ever did with their holdings.