🍗 Deathfat Eugenia Cooney - Youtube's Reigning uwu Cute, Emo ana-chan Supreme, had a child molester for a discord moderator

[autoerotic bus accident]

Anorexia nervosa and bulimia nervosa are both heavily, heavily influenced by peer groups and social contagion. That has been well-known and represented in medical literature for several decades. I can't emphasize enough that it basically is not in question that disordered eating has a significant social component and is not strictly an individual psychiatric disease. There are also components of agency and control, of course, but the behaviors are very much socially transmitted. I would hazard a guess that many patients of Eugenia's age and older would be found to have a similar primary etiology of social contagion: specifically, for many the very idea of restrictive eating and/or purging was introduced to them via school "awareness" presentations intended to prevent EDs. (Obviously with younger patients transmission is now more internet-based, and a lot of young women who would have been anorectic two decades ago are now instead in the gender dysphoria pipeline which functions in a similar way.)

The question in my mind is not whether anorexia is a social contagion, because it is, but whether young people are actually being influenced by a 30 year old "influencer" who is not a part of their peer or social group, or whether most of her audience are people who already have EDs plus the occasional other medfag (hi) watching a slow trainwreck. I am not sure how many new patients she is generating, but experience suggests it isn't zero.

 

[JustmeJaira]

Anorexia nervosa and bulimia nervosa are both heavily, heavily influenced by peer groups and social contagion. That has been well-known and represented in medical literature for several decades. I can't emphasize enough that it basically is not in question that disordered eating has a significant social component and is not strictly an individual psychiatric disease. There are also components of agency and control, of course, but the behaviors are very much socially transmitted. I would hazard a guess that many patients of Eugenia's age and older would be found to have a similar primary etiology of social contagion: specifically, for many the very idea of restrictive eating and/or purging was introduced to them via school "awareness" presentations intended to prevent EDs. (Obviously with younger patients transmission is now more internet-based, and a lot of young women who would have been anorectic two decades ago are now instead in the gender dysphoria pipeline which functions in a similar way.)

The question in my mind is not whether anorexia is a social contagion, because it is, but whether young people are actually being influenced by a 30 year old "influencer" who is not a part of their peer or social group, or whether most of her audience are people who already have EDs plus the occasional other medfag (hi) watching a slow trainwreck. I am not sure how many new patients she is generating, but experience suggests it isn't zero.

Yeah we know she is a full grown adult woman of 30 years old. But she pretends to be a young girl. Sitting on her pink couch surrounded by stuffed animals, wearing her hair in pig tails, talking in a childish high pitched voice. Wearing sweaters with power puff girls and spongebob. After the TikTok ban she can’t wear the revealing clothes anymore. Doing her makeup like a young girl it’s obvious what kind of audience she is targeting. And those aren’t grown women in their thirties. You have to be a complete airhead if you are 30+ watching and find her entertaining.

 

[Plus Size Polka]

Plus she knowingly caters to the pedos and ana fetishists. She targets little girls, attracts pedos, and brings them together in her online community all while promoting and glamorizing a very deadly eating disorder.

Fuck this bitch. If this earns me hats, I’ll proudly wear them.

 

[Stephan Kang]

Plus she knowingly caters to the pedos and ana fetishists. She targets little girls, attracts pedos, and brings them together in her online community all while promoting and glamorizing a very deadly eating disorder.

Fuck this bitch. If this earns me hats, I’ll proudly wear them.

She sounds like those Vtubers- it is a completely uncanny voice to match the uncanny appearance.
I don't know how many more anorexics good ol' Eugenia inspires, but what I hope is that SOMEONE bumps off whoever made that horrific mustard striped abomination of a "dress" she was wearing during the now famous gak stream.

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

People keep saying that for years but I don't think she generated any anorexic orbiters among her fanbase. Also, her content is too boring and outdated by 2025 standards, so I think most of her audience nowadays is around her age and it's still there just because of the shock value.

Agree, also it's been said many times, but I feel the need to state that it's on parents to safeguard their children. You should not be letting an influencer babysit your child, no matter what kind of influencer it is. If you're letting your 12 year old daughter on social media unsupervised and she develops an eating disorder because she watched Eugenia fucking Cooney in the year of our lord 2025, you're an awful parent. The previous generation of parents at least had the excuse that they didn't know any better, but this generation has no excuse.

This isn't to say that Eugenia is a good person. I don't really care if she is or not, and I don't care if people hate her. I'm just saying people should blame parents more often for allowing their children on the internet unsupervised, rather than expecting influencers with young audiences to be appropriate mentors and role models, or platforms to regulate their content so it's age-appropriate. They never will, and they're the least of the dangers your kid faces on TikTok or Instagram. Compared to some of the people that are on these sites intentionally cultivating child audiences, Eugenia is practically Barney the Dinosaur.

Again, I don't have an issue with people blaming her for her part in this. I just wish they primarily blamed shitty fucking parenting when a kid gets groomed on Discord, because that's the part that's actually within people's control. Nobody can control Eugenia because she's an adult.

 

[Adrenochrome Dreams]

This thread right now

Other people’s kids are not remotely Eugenia’s problem. It’s parents’ responsibility to police their children’s internet consumption, not for individuals to curtail their self-expression on their own content.

She’s not “targeting” anyone, she’s not capable of elaborate, deliberate marketing like that. If she was, her videos wouldn’t be so boring, low effort and unfashionable. She’s just doing her thing.

You don’t get this level of handwringing for deathfat content creators, many of whom are explicitly proselytising their eating disorders to young girls.

It seems a lot of Eugenia’s viewers are just virtue signallers who want to feel like they’re saving the children by attacking a tragic 30 year old, resentful of her unearned success and audacity to unapologetically exist in public.

 

[autoerotic bus accident]

You don’t get this level of handwringing for deathfat content creators, many of whom are explicitly proselytising their eating disorders to young girls.

People should absolutely not let the internet raise their children, but I think the discrepancy you are pointing out is because medicine is pretty unified in the knowledge that restrictive eating disorders have a huge social component. And even many anorexia patients will themselves gladly tell you about how 1) their ideas of initiating food restriction originally came from somewhere external, and b) how important their social "support" for each other is, thinspiration, body checking and etc (etc etc).

Being a slovenly deathfat has no such social component. Those people are more akin to watching a circus sideshow. I think when people feel the need to do a Helen Lovejoy about Eugenia it is because they have some grasp on how important behavior modeling is in the restrictive class of disorders. But I totally agree with you re: creator policing vs. real parenting, I'm just pointing out what I think is the reason the discrepancy in commentary between these two types of people exists.

I don't want her to stop making content, I am interested in her audience from an anthropological perspective, as I find these peoples' audiences almost as compelling as the creators. I would like Eugenia to get well, but I'm guessing the end of her eventual hastily-produced netflix documentary isn't going to get the happy music.

 

[Sabrina]

All of this that's been said. You cannot control the internet. You can't filter the internet. You can't forbid the internet. (try it)

Pay attention to what your kids are doing. Forbid headphones and be in range of the speakers. Friend caught their daughter watching EXTREMELY inappropriate material, to the point that the kid didn't even know what she was looking at/hearing.

That happened to too many Millennial children whose parents didn't know better (well they also didn't care FWIW).

Imagine that child keeps consuming that material as they hit puberty and beyond. That's how we got Chris-chan.

Pay attention to your kids and be a part of their lives.

 

[ATI Escapee]

Pay attention to your kids and be a part of their lives.

I totally agree. Imo it will be just as damaging to keep your kids isolated from the internet as it would letting them have comeplete free reign of it. Teach them how to navigate the internet safely, how to recognize danger and WHY some things are dangerous, and give them tools to manage their lives in relation to a more and more onlinr world.


Does any medfag know why people (women especially) with end stage anorexia seem to get really high pitched voices? It cant be just a weird psycological age regression thing right?

example can be found in both Eugenia and Ashley Isaacs, as well as a personal lolcow of mine who died of anorexia, Angelique. 1/2 of a duo or anorexic twins. Her voice in her last video https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=inB_Y8ua9kk&t=37s compared tohe voice before she got to that point https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Jyfq-xq5GyA&pp=ygUcbGlzYmV0aCBhbmQgYW5nZWxpcXVlIHJhZXZlbg==

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

I totally agree. Imo it will be just as damaging to keep your kids isolated from the internet as it would letting them have comeplete free reign of it. Teach them how to navigate the internet safely, how to recognize danger and WHY some things are dangerous, and give them tools to manage their lives in relation to a more and more onlinr world.

At the risk of getting off topic, I suggest you read more about the psychological/developmental effects of having internet access before age 16 vs. not having it, before you make the decision one way or another. https://www.afterbabel.com/t/responses-to-skeptics

 

[JustmeJaira]

Agree, also it's been said many times, but I feel the need to state that it's on parents to safeguard their children. You should not be letting an influencer babysit your child, no matter what kind of influencer it is. If you're letting your 12 year old daughter on social media unsupervised and she develops an eating disorder because she watched Eugenia fucking Cooney in the year of our lord 2025, you're an awful parent. The previous generation of parents at least had the excuse that they didn't know any better, but this generation has no excuse.

This isn't to say that Eugenia is a good person. I don't really care if she is or not, and I don't care if people hate her. I'm just saying people should blame parents more often for allowing their children on the internet unsupervised, rather than expecting influencers with young audiences to be appropriate mentors and role models, or platforms to regulate their content so it's age-appropriate. They never will, and they're the least of the dangers your kid faces on TikTok or Instagram. Compared to some of the people that are on these sites intentionally cultivating child audiences, Eugenia is practically Barney the Dinosaur.

Again, I don't have an issue with people blaming her for her part in this. I just wish they primarily blamed shitty fucking parenting when a kid gets groomed on Discord, because that's the part that's actually within people's control. Nobody can control Eugenia because she's an adult.

Yeah but it’s hard to monitor teenagers 24/7. It’s so easy to say parents should do this and parents should do

 

[Oracular Slug]

At the risk of getting off topic, I suggest you read more about the psychological/developmental effects of having internet access before age 16 vs. not having it, before you make the decision one way or another. https://www.afterbabel.com/t/responses-to-skeptics

Wow, that's a lot of navel gazing dressed up as science. I still think social media was a fucking mistake, but that's a blog, got any science?

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

Yeah but it’s hard to monitor teenagers 24/7.

You don't need to monitor them 24/7, just don't hand them a smartphone and a tablet and a smartwatch and a laptop and expect them not to use them. If they somehow manage to make a social media account and be on it regularly despite owning no devices at home, I'd honestly be impressed. We do need more than just individual solutions, though, as Jonathan Haidt has pointed out. But it's a start, and it's a lot more practical than handwringing over predators existing on the internet.

Wow, that's a lot of navel gazing dressed up as science. I still think social media was a fucking mistake, but that's a blog, got any science?

This post receives the dubious honor of most Reddit response I've ever gotten from a kiwi.

 

[Oracular Slug]

You don't need to monitor them 24/7, just don't hand them a smartphone and a tablet and a smartwatch and a laptop and expect them not to use them. If they somehow manage to make a social media account and be on it regularly despite owning no devices at home, I'd honestly be impressed. We do need more than just individual solutions, though, as Jonathan Haidt has pointed out. But it's a start.

This post receives the dubious honor of most Reddit response I've ever gotten from a kiwi. I can see you didn't read the blog, or you'd have an answer to your question.

I admit, I sorta started skimming when I got to the point I had to exit the "please register", because that design is awful. No, I don't need to be tracked to view your blog. You want me to take you seriously on internet safety? Don't immediately try to track me.

But you lost me at: "The conclusions of Martin & Rance about smartphone use by kids will remain speculation impossible to evaluate until the Life in Media Survey data is released to allow proper statistical analysis.2" followed by A LOT of said speculation.

Edit, since you question my reading comprehension. I finished it, more or less. I gave it the "academic journal I don't care about". Are there valid points? Yep! Is it anything more than speculating in circles without access to that data? Nope! Do blogs sometimes contain actual science? Sure, but hit me with actual journals.

Edit 2, technically a reply, but let's not derail further. I have a lingering hatred of academics talking themselves in circles and then presenting their communal opinion as The Facts. God knows trying to explain science to the public is a nightmare, and, in this case, they're probably right. They need at least 50% more hedging given what they're working with for data, but I'm not about to accidentally argue in favor of tweens on socials, aw hell no.

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

I admit, I sorta started skimming when I got to the point I had to exit the "please register", because that design is awful. No, I don't need to be tracked to view your blog. You want me to take you seriously on internet safety? Don't immediately try to track me.

But you lost me at: "The conclusions of Martin & Rance about smartphone use by kids will remain speculation impossible to evaluate until the Life in Media Survey data is released to allow proper statistical analysis.2" followed by A LOT of said speculation.

Edit, since you question my reading comprehension. I finished it, more or less. I gave it the "academic journal I don't care about". Are there valid points? Yep! Is it anything more than speculating in circles without access to that data? Nope! Do blogs sometimes contain actual science? Sure, but hit me with actual journals.

Aight well if you want to discuss this further please DM me. I had a whole thing typed up, but this is starting to be derailing and I think it needs its own thread if it's a topic people would like to discuss further.

Spoiler: Note

Edit: I removed the part about reading comprehension from my post before you replied, because I read it again and thought it was unnecessary and rude. Apologies for being rude. I also did not post the afterbabel link because it's a be-all, end-all resource, but because it's an accessible jumping off point for people who might be interested in learning about the topic.

 

[Drive-by Farts]

Anorexia is a social contagion but LOOK at her. She looks gross and is balding and looks 70. What teen would want to be like her, who wasn’t already severely mentally sick? She crossed into cautionary tale category as soon as her face started to get ugly

 

[12345]

Does any medfag know why people (women especially) with end stage anorexia seem to get really high pitched voices? It cant be just a weird psycological age regression thing right?

Not a Medfag, but it' the internet and I have opinions.

The shorter, most simple answer is hydration, or lack of it. The vocal chords get tighter and they just don't have the energy to bring the voice down.

The longer, slightly more autistic answer: I have weird interest in accents. I once dated an English man, and whenever he would try to do an American accent, his voice would drop a couple of pitches, and whenever I hear someone over here try to do a British accent the voice pitches up. A thing I don't think many people realize or think about is where they are saying things in their mouths. I know it sounds weird, but go watch a male Aussie doing an American accent. They get all deep and gravely voices. Irish for example moves around the mouth a lot when talking, it goes up and down and varies speed. That's why if you listen to actors doing a fake Irish accent it usually sounds fake because they are saying the words like an American which kind stays in the same place in the mouth. Place maybe a little bit that they are thinking a little bit (maybe subconsciously) of what it should sound like, so you talk a little slower.

TL;DR Maybe their voices are naturally high, and being slightly lower may have been a variety of factors they aren't even aware of (No one thinks they have an accent, everyone else always has an accent). Now her body doesn't have the energy even subconsciously to be lower. That and the lack of normal hydration probably doesn't help.

But that's very much a guess based on something I am interested in, but haven't done any research, just what I've personally observed.

 

[JustmeJaira]

You don't need to monitor them 24/7, just don't hand them a smartphone and a tablet and a smartwatch and a laptop and expect them not to use them. If they somehow manage to make a social media account and be on it regularly despite owning no devices at home, I'd honestly be impressed. We do need more than just individual solutions, though, as Jonathan Haidt has pointed out. But it's a start, and it's a lot more practical than handwringing over predators existing on the internet.

This post receives the dubious honor of most Reddit response I've ever gotten from a kiwi.

Yeah but most schools give students laptops for doing homework at home. What are you going to do? Homeschooling? Parents have to work and pay bills and so. And they have friends with these devices or gameconsoles. There are a million ways to bypass the no acces to the internet. You have to talk to your teen thats the only way to explain the dangers nowadays.

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

You have to talk to your teen thats the only way to explain the dangers nowadays.

The problem with this type of response is that it positions the "talk to your kid" and "don't give your 8 year old a smartphone" positions as mutually exclusive. Why would any mature, intelligent parent not do both things? We aren't boomers. We aren't avoiding giving kids social media because we fear what we don't understand, and therefore can't explain to the child (in an age-appropriate way) why mommy won't let them use Instagram. I just don't get this objection at all.

Yeah but most schools give students laptops for doing homework at home. What are you going to do? Homeschooling? Parents have to work and pay bills and so. And they have friends with these devices or gameconsoles. There are a million ways to bypass the no acces to the internet.

1. The majority of schools that give students laptops monitor what students are doing on them. If the school laptop itself is causing child safety issues, you as a parent have the ability to address the issue with the school and even act collectively with other parents to change school policy. Pulling your kid out of school is a drastic last resort, not a first line defense.

2. Most kids who are being groomed online or developing eating disorders aren't doing it via the internet browser on their friend's XBox. The problem isn't that most children will occasionally have internet access when not at home. The problem is that the majority of children nowadays are given multiple devices, which they're allowed to use completely unsupervised, often late at night while the family is sleeping, by parents who themselves are addicted to their phones, and therefore distracted and disinterested in their children's problems. Limiting their access when at home and in school (yes, in combination with discussions as a family about the reasons why, and what to expect when they are eventually allowed a device) goes a huge way towards addressing the problem, and again, it's actually actionable. Child-proofing the internet is not actionable.

3. If you want to argue more, please take it to my DMs, because I can no longer edit my previous posts and respond to you there, and this is beyond the scope of the thread.

 

[Sabrina]

On topic being pulled out of school is what makes people like Eugenia zap to the extreme