Ethan Ralph Prosecution File - Compile Evidence Of Ethan Ralph Breaking The Law To Forward To Prosecutors

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DogZero said:
It pains me to say, but I fear efforts like these will just result in the same sort of suicide posting we saw in the DSP forum when dumb boomer state employees paid no attention to/ ignored efforts by the farms to influence legal matters.
I do not think a Calendar DA I is going to watch through Ralph's streams or get them admitted into evidence, especially not criminal evidence which has stricter rules. The trustee in DSP's bankruptcy certainly didn't and in that case she had all the power and leeway one can have in the US legal system. A DA, who has to deal with both motions by opposing counsel and the judge does not have even half the same latitude.

This all assumes the DA office even chooses to file charges, something that is up to a filing DA who sits in a small room and reads the police report and attached evidence and decides then and there if he thinks the DA can make a good case. None of these streams etc are going to be included in that initial case file. All he is gonna see is the testimony of Faith, whatever testimony Ralph just provided, and wonder if that's enough to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

Not trying to Gunt Guard, but I would be cautious with your optimism everyone.
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He's out on bail. Is that set before or after an indictment?
 
So leaky anus sent me a copy of his recent court documents... Holy ol' fuck boys...

There's like 10 pages so I will spoiler to not stretch the thread.

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ElAbominacion said:
He's out on bail. Is that set before or after an indictment?
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This isn't a grand jury matter, he isn't gonna get indicted lol

Also he is not out on bail, he got called in for questioning by the police so they can generate a police report. As far as the public records right now, based on what Sam posted he has not been charged with anything yet. Like I said the Filing DA will have to look at it and decide, and given the sad technological state of most DA's offices I doubt that file includes any dvds with clips from the fucking killstream on them. He will be making his decision based on the two testimonies, and at most, pictures of phone screenshots hopefully provided by Vickers when Faith reported it if he is any smart. Considering this is primarily a DV issue, and how testimony based those are, I would be surprised if he files based just on those things about an event that occurred quite some time ago. Generally DA offices really really don't like when people report DV weeks after the fact.

Even if he decides to file, I doubt whatever Calendar DA gets the case is gonna check this forum, even if gets annoyed, sure as hell didnt help with Nancy, or watch clips from the Killstream. Even if we furthermore get lucky and they do, I doubt they will be able to get it submitted into evidence. Even the most water brained Public Defender will 1538 that shit immediately. Which means he will probably offer a very favorable plea deal. Think no jail time, with some fines and summary probation.

Yes his previous felony complicates this and itself would provide another charge, yes the revenge porn might make the consequences more severe, but the evidentiary issues still remain, and I really advise caution against anyone thinking he will serve serious time, even if he picks up an official probation violation. That all assumes the DA even decides to file.

Hope I am wrong about all this, I want another jail arc.

Edit: 1538 is the name for the motion in CA, idk what it is in guntland whether its police collected evidence or otherwise, basically its just a motion to suppress evidence due to collection, foundation or custody issues.
 
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DogZero said:
This isn't a grand jury matter, he isn't gonna get indicted lol

Also he is not out on bail, he got called in for questioning by the police so they can generate a police report. As far as the public records right now, based on what Sam posted he has not been charged with anything yet. Like I said the Filing DA will have to look at it and decide, and given the sad technological state of most DA's offices I doubt that file includes any dvds with clips from the fucking killstream on them. He will be making his decision based on the two testimonies, and at most, pictures of phone screenshots hopefully provided by Vickers when Faith reported it if he is any smart. Considering this is primarily a DV issue, and how testimony based those are, I would be surprised if he files based just on those things about an event that occurred quite some time ago. Generally DA offices really really don't like when people report DV weeks after the fact.

Even if he decides to file, I doubt whatever Calendar DA gets the case is gonna check this forum, even if gets annoyed, sure as hell didnt help with Nancy, or watch clips from the Killstream. Even if we furthermore get lucky and they do, I doubt they will be able to get it submitted into evidence. Even the most water brained Public Defender will 1538 that shit immediately. Which means he will probably offer a very favorable plea deal. Think no jail time, with some fines and summary probation.

Yes his previous felony complicates this and itself would provide another charge, yes the revenge porn might make the consequences more severe, but the evidentiary issues still remain, and I really advise caution against anyone thinking he will serve serious time, even if he picks up an official probation violation. That all assumes the DA even decides to file.

Hope I am wrong about all this, I want another jail arc.

Edit: 1538 is the name for the motion in CA, idk what it is in guntland whether its police collected evidence or otherwise, basically its just a motion to suppress evidence due to collection, foundation or custody issues.
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All the prosecutor needs is digital forensics on the video. I doubt Ralph is smart enough to scrub metadata from the video file. The IP of the sender might be fucky due to VPN but we'll see.
 
ElAbominacion said:
All the prosecutor needs is digital forensics on the video. I doubt Ralph is smart enough to scrub metadata from the video file. The IP of the sender might be fucky due to VPN but we'll see.
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dude, this is a rural virginia DA office. You can’t submit a youtube video as evidence. He would need to download the relevant clips, then have them transferred to a physical medium, like a dvd then properly submitted.
This is all stuff that would occur AFTER a filing DA has decided to do charges, which is still uncertain . I have experiences in these offices, the most high tech you get is mp3 files on dvds. No DA is gonna find this thread and they aren’t gonna listen through hours of live-streams.

Also “digital forensics”? lmao, for a misdemeanour? These are offices that still use physical files

you really need to understand that these offices operate like it’s 2003, especially for little misdemeanour shit like this. This isn’t NCIS, it’s a boomer with a thinkpad at best in an office, constrained by very strict chain of custody and formatting rules from the state office. If it’s not given to him by a police officer or the victim herself, and it’s not on a dvd or a thumb drive, it ain’t making it in. That might seem absurd to you or me, and it is, but it’s how misdemeanour offices work, even in big counties like LA.

I am not trying to be dismissive or rude, it’s just once you see behind the curtain at how these offices actually work (or not work perhaps), and how limited their resources and methods are it makes some of the attitudes and assumptions expressed in this thread look simply delusional.
 
DogZero said:
I am not trying to be dismissive or rude, it’s just once you see behind the curtain at how these offices actually work (or not work perhaps), and how limited their resources and methods are it makes some of the attitudes and assumptions expressed in this thread look simply delusional.
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I'm not a lawfag but haven't people been prosecuted for less over tweets? Not saying that some physical media wouldn't be the right way because that's not so easily waved away.
 
TriggerMeElmo said:
I'm not a lawfag but haven't people been prosecuted for less over tweets? Not saying that some physical media wouldn't be the right way because that's not so easily waved away.
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Not in the Us, and if they have it’s usually related to other far more serious crimes and as part of a larger operation.

@TaterFarmer Compared to some of the West Coast Mega counties it’s small potatoes (pardon the pun).
Even so this is a misdemeanour matter regarding an event reported weeks after it occurred. Whether it’s Richmond, Los Angeles or the Pleasure Domes of Kublai Khan, no DA is gonna comb through ralph’s entire live stream archive, find the relevant parts, learn what youtube archiving is, do so, put it in a dvd, make another copy for opposing counsel, then try to submit it, defend it against numerous issues with evidence like this, then win a jury over.
Keep in mind this is only after a filing DA has filed charges cus he thinks this is even worth their time, and more importantly, provable. This is also one of 30 cases the calender DA has on his calendar for... that day
Let’s hope vickers had faith send in caps of chat logs when she made the report,DA offices love that shit cus it’s easy to use.

The parole violation on the other hand.... That’s a lot easier and doesn’t require Calendar DA Cletus with his thinkpad to learn what digital forensics are.
 
DogZero said:
Not in the Us, and if they have it’s usually related to other far more serious crimes and as part of a larger operation.

@TaterFarmer Compared to some of the West Coast Mega counties it’s small potatoes (pardon the pun).
Even so this is a misdemeanour matter regarding an event reported weeks after it occurred. Whether it’s Richmond, Los Angeles or the Pleasure Domes of Kublai Khan, no DA is gonna comb through ralph’s entire live stream archive, find the relevant parts, learn what youtube archiving is, do so, put it in a dvd, make another copy for opposing counsel, then try to submit it, defend it against numerous issues with evidence like this, then win a jury over.

Let’s hope vickers had faith send in caps of chat logs when she made the report,DA offices love that shit cus it’s easy to use.

The parole violation on the other hand.... That’s a lot easier and doesn’t require Calendar DA Cletus with his thinkpad have to learn what digital forensics are.
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Can we clear this up if it's parole or probation? I see a lot of confusion about this.
 
Parole is after prison, Ralph was in jail for a few months. Ralph is on probation, unsupervised, if I had to guess.
 
TriggerMeElmo said:
Can we clear this up if it's parole or probation? I see a lot of confusion about this.
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I am actually not sure myself, I only started following ralph recently.
If he got out of jail early on a felony with some time left its parole, if he did his time and probation was part of his sentence then, it’s probation.

I think I misspoke in my previous post, I think it’s probation, parole is way more strict and if you violate serve the rest of your time.
if you violate probation you get a probation violation charge, usually pretty minor


@JewBacca I have heard people refer to him having a PO, and it’s felony probation so I don’t think it’s unsupervised.
 
DogZero said:
I am actually not sure myself, I only started following ralph recently.
If he got out of jail early on a felony with some time left its parole, if he did his time and probation was part of his sentence then, it’s probation.

I think I misspoke in my previous post, I think it’s probation, parole is way more strict and if you violate serve the rest of your time.
if you violate probation you get a probation violation charge, usually pretty minor


@JewBacca I have heard people refer to him having a PO, and it’s felony probation so I don’t think it’s unsupervised.
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Yeah, I think it's just probation which gives him the leniency to travel so long as he informs his officer and he's not tested so regularly. I think he said his probation also ends in March but don't quote me on that.

@JewBacca a few is being gracious. It was 8 months.
 
DogZero said:
@JewBacca I have heard people refer to him having a PO, and it’s felony probation so I don’t think it’s unsupervised.
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I say unsupervised, because by Ralph's word he doesn't check in monthly, he's allowed to travel and he does not have to take random drug screens.

TriggerMeElmo said:
@JewBacca a few is being gracious. It was 8 months.
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I knew it was 6 or 8 months, I said few since I couldn't be specific without research and I'm lazy.
 
DogZero said:
this is only after a filing DA has filed charges cus he thinks this is even worth their time, and more importantly, provable.
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Ralph described the cops showing up to his house, taking him to a booking center, and releasing him on ROR. To go out to his house and invite him down for a booking, they had to have some charge to enter against him. They're not a photography studio.

DogZero said:
no DA is gonna comb through ralph’s entire live stream archive, find the relevant parts, learn what youtube archiving is, do so, put it in a dvd, make another copy for opposing counsel, then try to submit it, defend it against numerous issues with evidence like this, then win a jury over.
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Agreed, but for the two potential charges, battery and revenge porn, they don't need that stuff. The only digital forensics they need is for ralph's service providers to respond to subpoenas. He streamed, so clearly they didn't take his computer equipment into custody. They might have imaged his phone, but he didn't mention that and most wouldn't hand their phone over for imaging without talking to an attorney first. In general "digital forensics" on functional devices is not all that complicated and most states run centralized labs to provide those services. It isn't like Opie's dad needs to sit down and figure it out.
 
@TaterFarmer The police likely arrived and asked for him to voluntarily come down and answer questions. They do that because as I explained before, they have to generate a police report for the DA to make a case file and decide whether to actually file charges. Police arrest people and question them all the time before charges are filed, that’s how it usually works, and operates as part of a police investigation. If your drunk outside the cop doesn’t file charges then arrest you, he arrests you, makes a police report, and the DA decides what to do in the morning.

Richmond DA is not gonna subpoena an ISP over a stale DV misdemeanour. You can barely get cops to show up for misdemeanour subpoenas, and they are next door. Also yes they have centralised operations for digital investigation... with highly limited time and usage rules. Yet again, any DA asking for a department likely in another building to do work for a stale misdemeanour is gonna get laughed out. This all assumes the DA even does this much work, on one of his 30 case appearances that day, or anything even gets filed.

I don’t mean to be the fun police and tell people not to collect evidence and make our own kiwi file or anything. Who knows I might be wrong and the purpose of this site is to have fun.
I just wanted to maybe temper some expectations as I was reminded of the bankruptcy saga with DSP where some people even though phil was gonna go to jail for perjury and other crazy shit, and then were getting suicidal and black pilled when he got everything discharged and it was quite troubling
 
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