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Elliot Page / Ellen Page - Former actress, starred in Juno. Turned into a pooner and divorced her wife because being a lesbian was not boosting her career anymore. Receives a daily dose of asspatting from Hollywood. Likes to show off her "male" body using fake abdominals.
To any pooners lurking the thread, the first two or three times you knock back a 1.5L of blue Listerine you'll piss it out your ass nigh-unchanged, but that'll stop as your body gets used to it.
Ellen's casting is a collective L for all trannies because trannies don't control the biggest social media platforms anymore so now people can make fun of them. Not only that but the journoscum screeching "transphobia!1" have no influence anymore either.
The Odyssey isn't a trans triumph, it's a trans funeral.
This is the only troon I was even remotely invested in. Always thought she was pretty cute, I liked Super quite a bit around the time it came out, though by the time the mutilation happened her best days were already long behind her.
As much as I can laugh at her it's still sad to see someone get so utterly mindraped by growing up in an environment no kid should have to.
I’m going to partially agree with @moocow on this one, not so much the sex but the protection.
I am a small woman, and I notice that a disproportionate number of pooners are similarly tiny. I’m not quite as tiny as Page but one decent stomach flu would see me that size.
I have a theory about being a small woman, and that it’s that men generally don’t find us attractive but that a large subset of perverts do. To be brutal about it, Page looked like a child until she was in her thirties and she would have attracted a lot of unsavoury attention. Men on the whole though do not seem to find very small women attractive (western women, yellow fever is a whole other thing.) so you end up being a very small, physically quite weak person who feels unattractive, and kind of vulnerable. I think a lot of these girls have that in the back of their minds with pooning - they need to feel safe on one level and of some big guy isn’t going by to do that they can be the guy. It’s the female mirrored version of if you can’t get the girlfriend become the girlfriend. And then of course porn and grooming.
Apparently 39 year old Ellen is playing Elpenor - the youngest of Odysseus's crew. Looks like Nolan & Universal got spooked by the Achilles backlash. But pooner Page took away a role for a young male actor and the audience is getting gaslighted.
Apparently 39 year old Ellen is going to play Elpenor not Achilles. Elpenor is the youngest of Odysseus's crew. Looks like Universal and/or Nolan saw the Achilles backlash were forced to reveal her role.
So we have to pretend this nearly 40 year old, dainty woman is a young greek warrior. HELL NO!! This role should have gone to a young male actor, not an useless zippertit!
The theater is going to piss themselves laughing at her because everyone knows she is an insane woman. To enjoy this garbage you first have to...
I never really stopped to think about it, because most women are smaller anyway. What strikes me the most with pooners is that they are just lesbians pretending in a safe space. Anytime they are confronted to actual male environment, they don't handle it well.
I don't know. It really depends on how small you are really I think. I would say that most people are looking for average (in most things), but the overwhelming majority will settle for less if everything else works. Attractiveness is not limited to a singular element.
If we're talking where you could actually look like a teenager, I can see how that would be an issue. Even if you find her attractive and know better, it's difficult to ignore the fact that what stands out to you will stand out to everyone else. I probably would not approach a woman who looks like she's a lot younger than me. Not that I approach many women, but you get my point.
Let's be real, "Ellen Page is going to play Achilles" is just obvious clickbait BS seeded by Hollywood to get people talking about the movie because they know this is the only way they remain relevant. Mark my words, she will be playing the twink Patroclus.
Gosh, how "gracious" of you. But yes, part of what I was stating that seemed obvious to me (but apparently not to most) is that one benefit of having a caring, loving male figure in a pooner's life is the increased possibility of said male figure beating the living fucking shit out of any asshole who decides he's going to make a tasty victim (sexually or otherwise) of the young lady.
It's much easier to prey on an undefended and defenseless petite woman with self-esteem issues than it is to prey on one who isn't nearly as undefended. Just having a man around who gives a shit about you substantially reduces the odds of someone causing you harm. Being in the company of a man with whom you have a safe, healthy and enjoyable sexual relationship helps you feel safer too, but of course that gets into "not all men" territory now and I'm not even going to try to guess how this place swings around that landmine these days.
I’m going to partially agree with @moocow on this one, not so much the sex but the protection.
I am a small woman, and I notice that a disproportionate number of pooners are similarly tiny. I’m not quite as tiny as Page but one decent stomach flu would see me that size.
I have a theory about being a small woman, and that it’s that men generally don’t find us attractive but that a large subset of perverts do. To be brutal about it, Page looked like a child until she was in her thirties and she would have attracted a lot of unsavoury attention. Men on the whole though do not seem to find very small women attractive (western women, yellow fever is a whole other thing.) so you end up being a very small, physically quite weak person who feels unattractive, and kind of vulnerable. I think a lot of these girls have that in the back of their minds with pooning - they need to feel safe on one level and of some big guy isn’t going by to do that they can be the guy. It’s the female mirrored version of if you can’t get the girlfriend become the girlfriend. And then of course porn and grooming.
This fits literally all the pooners in my extended social circle. Not all short, but all unassertive and resentful before. They don't want to be women any more because of the way men treat women; wanting to be a man is a by-product of that and usually much more unconvincing than the desire AGPs have of being women. You see it so much on r/Ftm, so many posts from FtMs that admit they find men disgusting and incomprehensible.
Well, I didn’t mean it in any negative way, I agree with you, my point would be the protection angle slightly over the sex angle but that’s something I agree with too.
One thing that always strikes me when I talk to younger women is this ‘I can do anything’ thing, and you can’t. I dont think some men OR women realise these days how much stronger men are than women, possibly because nobody is allowed to fight at school any more or get physical playing, because most men don’t attack women and maybe partly because of the whole girlboss marvel crap. Those of us with brothers and old enough to have run round in a mixed gang of kids in the Before Times have had enough fights that this is just known … but.,,
When you’re a whiff over five foot, and you’ve been indoctrinated with that your whole life, never fought with boys on the playground or your brothers, you maybe dont have much of a grip on reality, your first encounter with that reality is if a man decides to do something to you that you don’t want him to, that’s going to be a massive shock. And it sounds bizarre, maybe you’re thinking ‘how can they not realise?’ but I’ve met girls who think that their self defence lessons mean they can fight a man off and they will not listen when you tell them that they won’t, not a bit.
I remain convinced that pooning is what happens when autism, a feeling of confusion and lack of safety, and porn/grooming meet.
Cheers, sorry for being a cunt about it. I've been getting a lot of "well you're right but you're still shit because reasons" responses lately so I read too much into this one.
Same. No healthy person ever pursues genital mutilation. I've yet to meet or interact with any tranny or homosexual person (of any kind) who hasn't eventually admitted to being molested (or worse) at a young age.
And it sounds bizarre, maybe you’re thinking ‘how can they not realise?’ but I’ve met girls who think that their self defence lessons mean they can fight a man off and they will not listen when you tell them that they won’t, not a bit.
This can sometimes be really funny to watch in action when they test this theory against a man with enough self control not to cause permanent injury but not enough self control to resist the urge to just end a confrontation with a hard slap.
Can't find it at the moment but there's this fucking hilarious video of a bar (I'm inclined to say it's in Russia, but I can't guarantee it except for the fact that no other men in the bar came to the woman's rescue, heavily implying this didn't happen in a cucked western country), where a woman who couldn't be more than 100 pounds soaking wet, maybe 5' 1" at best, is just ranting and raving at some big hulking guy (presumably her (now ex?) boyfriend) about something, and he's arguing back but staying calm. She's animated, gesticulating wildly and getting hotter and angrier as he just isn't caving in to her demand or opinion or whatever, and finally, she starts screaming and slapping him. He ends it with a single. hard open-palmed hand to her face, which hits her hard enough to knock her back into the chairs behind her at the bar, leading to her falling backwards to the floor and banging her head on the bar on the way down.
She didn't pass out or anything. I'm sure she had a headache, but she immediately corrected her own attitude and behavior; the yelling stopped, she stood back up (without anyone's assistance, because she knew better than to ask), dusted herself off, and stumbled out of the bar to seek her own new adventures elsewhere. Among all the thoughts you could see struggling to pierce her drunken feminist skull, the one you knew actually did make it through was "that was a stupid fucking idea, now wasn't it?"
And here is a perfect illustration fresh off the press of what we are discussing, with added autism:
What is happening of course is that prior to their transition, they were being treated by other women to all the meaningless compliments that are the glue of social interaction between women. That well is now dry because women don't compliment men usually, as men immediately interpret compliments from women as an advance. "Why aren't other women, I mean women, telling me I'm so pretty anymore? Not that I want to be of course, not me I'm a man AS EVERYONE CAN TELL I'M SURE so they should compliment my rugged good looks but somehow they don't..."
And it sounds bizarre, maybe you’re thinking ‘how can they not realise?’ but I’ve met girls who think that their self defence lessons mean they can fight a man off and they will not listen when you tell them that they won’t, not a bit.
I've done martial arts with men, so I know the difference in skill and strength levels between men and women, but I've observed this also.
My dojang held a "self defense class" for the moms of the kids enrolled. I didn't have kids, but I figured I'd check it out.
The problem with a self defense class is that it assumes you walked in with the correct amount of muscle memory and mental calm to handle it if you are literally in a life-or-death situation. Guess what? You don't have that. You need consistent, persistent training under pressure in order to be able to handle it.
I told every woman who would listen: "this is nice, but you have to do this regularly."
Among all the thoughts you could see struggling to pierce her drunken feminist skull, the one you knew actually did make it through was "that was a stupid fucking idea, now wasn't it?"
And somewhere, Andrew Wilson is smiling, thinking about Force Doctrine. And somewhere else, Cam Higby is explaining to a liberal that when the National Guard shows up, people stop chimping out. And a handful of conservative commentators are rubbing their temples while explaining why the fuck Renee Good got shot.
All that to say, we live in a time when a massive amount of people fail to understand what happens when they lack consequences, what we end up with is people who think they can get away with anything, and then get mad when someone who tells them they can't actually stops them. Lest anyone think I'm on a tangent, I believe that transgenderism exists on the same spectrum: too many people have been told they're allowed to not live in reality and are now getting mad that the rubber met the road, and consequences existed.
You want to play freak with your body? That's on you. But you shouldn't be surprised when someone bigger than you says they're not playing that game.
And this shit right here is why no matter how much you "feel" like the opposite sex, if you are socialized as the sex you were born, transitioning is not going to help you. Primarily because no matter what you "feel", everyone else was still treating you as the sex you were born, and that is what you're accustomed to.
Especially the part about "passing". I'll consider this person an unreliable narrator.
We live in a time when trans people scream about how people talk about them out of "respect". Those people are probably not talking to you because a. you don't pass, and b. they're afraid of saying anything to you because they are avoiding a chimpout.
Nobody ever considers for a second that it isn't transphobia. It's just that you're such a spoil sport that nobody wants the headache of having to deal with you.
Ah well, now, to some extent, but they're expected to be open to sucking girldick. Being bisexual (or even straight) while calling yourself a dyke is socially praised, being a true and honest lesbian isn't. It's hard out here for single lesbians trying to avoid all the AGPs without being castigated for it and even losing their jobs and friends groups. But Ellen was already married, so it's not as if she had that problem. Usually it is the wealthy older already married lesbians who promote troons these days, because they aren't dating any more and don't have to deal with the hordes of "lesbians trapped in men's bodies", same as how it's only the washed up retired female athletes who advocate troons in women's sports.
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