Dragon's Dogma

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Gravityqueen4life said:
no new vocations? well, fuck you too itsuno.
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Seriously you simplified every vocation and can't even come up with a new one and even SPLIT TWO VOCATIONS IN HALF. While the new one you made is literally useless.

What the fuck.
Here I'll literally make another new one right now, minus the ones I made up earlier.
Bard, like trickster but better. In that it's class skill is to sing which depends on your previously used skill: an offensive one creates an AoE that enchants allies' weapons with your weapon's element - giving it magic scaling (meaning your attacks either scale with STR/MGK or MGK twice), a defensive one - healing AND lowering debilitation buildup until it gets rid of it, or a support one which is just celerity - except it also stacks with celerity.

It's ult is to mimic a a vocation's ultimate depending on your main pawn's (or arisen, if a pawn is a bard) equipped weapon - for warfarer reasons. For vocations with multiple ults it's bolide for sorc the not suicide one for strider and whatever else the others were idfk.

Augments are getting more magick/strength with every buff on you, party members can use your items wherever you are, your party members run faster and, extra weight, even more extra weight, and faster spellcasting speed.
 
Galax27 said:
Literal admittance of cutting the base game development and selling it later as DLC for a total of 100 USD not counting other microtransactions.
Dragon's Dogma? More like Dragon's Scam, bruh.
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For real, them saying this is their biggest expansion ever just makes it feel like they cut a chunk of the game to make more money down the line. Kind of feels like we got a Early Access game that will feel 1.0 when the expansion comes out. Might even have QOL stuff included in that update too.

I do think the expansion is legit though, cause Capcom huge leak a couple years back does corroborate that a expansion was being made for DD and Resident Evil X.
 
some of the quests in this game really fucking bad, that one where you're supposed to follow a beggar around and expose him is seriously one of the worst quest designs i have ever fucking seen.
 
Gravityqueen4life said:
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>DLC Price will be around $29.99, it wil be the biggest ever made by Capcom and it has been in the works alongside the main game.
>There will be around 10 new big monsters and around 35 new enemy types, the ones i've seen are a giant snow troll, a giant spided bear, poison wyvern and cerberus (hydra and cockatrice are not one of them)
no new vocations? well, fuck you too itsuno.
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These greedy fucks just admitted that they held back content for this DLC, no wonder this game feels incomplete. They can add as much content as they want, but it won't mean shit if they don't fix some of the core elements of the game they screwed up and bring back some of the QoL features they removed that were present in the first game.

Itsuno is a hack fraud and I unironically hope bad things happen to him.
 
Honored guest said:
These greedy fucks just admitted that they held back content for this DLC, no wonder this game feels incomplete. They can add as much content as they want, but it won't mean shit if they don't fix some of the core elements of the game they screwed up and bring back some of the QoL features they removed that were present in the first game.

Itsuno is a hack fraud and I unironically hope bad things happen to him.
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We at least need two hotbars for skills and just relegate the "class skill" to like lb/rb.
At fucking least. Then turn strider's dodge skill as an actual weaponskill while pilfer is it's class skill.
Also let us hotbar our items. I have a mage and a chiuregeonenslkfmsd fighter specifically so I don't have to heal. I'd use tomes if I didn't have to go to the menu to use it every fucking time.
And I'm looking for aholy duospear for this shit too.
 
Speaking about quests, I was reminded of an experience in DD: DA while watching Synthetic Man's playthrough.

He was trying to unlock the Magic Archer vocation, and had to escort a dwarf to a spring. Along the way, a horde of goblins ambushed him and he had to fight them.
Now what did the dwarf escort do? Did he stand at a distance until the goblins were defeated? Did he fight to contribute in defeating the horde?
No, of course not... The dwarf just waddled around like a sitting duck right in the middle of the fight and died to the random enemy attacks.

The same thing happened to me in the first game trying to escort an old man to a cave, only to be ambushed by a drake.
The escort casually walked around in the middle of the fight, practically daring the drake to stomp him to death.

It's been 10 or more years since the first game was launched or developed, and you're telling me that there wasn't any thought of changing or improving the backwards mentality aspects of the previous iteration?
Come on, dude...
 
BibiLivesMatter said:
I do think the expansion is legit though, cause Capcom huge leak a couple years back does corroborate that a expansion was being made for DD and Resident Evil X.
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With how much discord fags have been spamming /v/ and other social media in order to force a critical panning of the game I (with bias) believe that the expansion leaks are manufactured for this purpose. to intentionally get people angry (see
Honored guest said:
These greedy fucks just admitted that they held back content for this DLC
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I do not recall any mention of a Dragons Dogma 2 expansion from the Ragnar Locker Leaks but feel free to point it out to me if you can source it. With some of the timelines that we got from these leaks including yet unannouced Street Fighter 6 repackagings I doubt that they would fail to include this in the timelines if it was planned pre launch.
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Gravityqueen4life said:
it got leaked so i guess they just going all in.
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The specific argument I saw against this image was that the Resident Evil X title text exactly matches Resident Evil 3 remake and they wouldn't keep consistent in that. Also Cataclysm is a dumb name
 
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You know what really annoys me about the story of this game? The characters were presented pre-launch to be much more involved, but they’re barely in the game. Wilhelmina, (and she is the best character for obvious reasons) is in just two scenes in the game. Only in vernsworth. Ulrika literally just appears at the beginning of the game and then fucks right off, despite seeming to have a close relationship to the arisen. Disa you never see again after vernsworth, like that whole lead up to exposing her was completely dropped. The empress of that furry nation NEVER APPEARS IN-GAME. Ok, she’s in a side quest, but you never actually see her in the main story. And then that black dude, well he’s the most prominent, but he disappears after vernsworth. And the elf village? Yeah that was completely optional and completely missable. The story of this game was absolutely horrible dude.

I know the OG dragons dogma wasn’t some writing masterpiece, but it felt more like a simple story and not just completely unfinished.
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I absolutely hate people like this. Fucking internet Karen’s.
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>Title: Dragon Princess
>DLC is considerably bigger than Dark Arisen
>DLC isn't planning to alter content from the base game
>New Area is Swamp and Tundra of a country called Galacyia, based on European Northen Countries, it's about the size of the main map in the game (Battahl and Venworth), it will be accesible by some points in the East of Vernworth
>Story is about another Arisen (female), chosen by the another dragon. The main story is only accessible after the main game, but the region can be accesed at any poin in the game.
>DLC Price will be around $29.99, it wil be the biggest ever made by Capcom and it has been in the works alongside the main game.
>There will be around 10 new big monsters and around 35 new enemy types, the ones i've seen are a giant snow troll, a giant spided bear, poison wyvern and cerberus (hydra and cockatrice are not one of them)
>Release Date is November, but it might get delayed

no new vocations? well, fuck you too itsuno.
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That would explain why the game is so short and barebones.
 
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Resunoit said:
The story of this game was absolutely horrible dude.
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I get the impression that Capcom doesn't really care about story at all.

There was an interesting anecdote in the recent Mega Man X Dive artbook saying that the story was written entirely by the producer, who didn't think it was important and nobody cared about it. Then he saw players talking about it and found out that, whoops, they actually do care.

I would suspect a similar situation here. The DLC won't fix any of this because it's an entirely different location.
 
Not only is the writing barebones but they expect people to CARE about the guy you just met for two quests in a credits sequence. It's fucking retarded.

They nailed the main pawn storyline downpat though. That was fucking endearing. Lots more than stabbing god repeatedly.
Stabbing dragon god in the heart after your rage-virus inflicted pawn turns into a dragon to beat the shit out of the other dragon immediately after controlling a giant mecha you might've damaged irrevocably to murder ANOTHER dragon while he thanks you is a lot better than that
Also what the fuck was that ending. Am I supposed to give a shit about some rando.

I am. Still eternally pissed about how shafted combat is, with it's massive reliance on basic attacks, with no combos (fighter/strider/mystic knight had a spam by doing heavy attack then spamming lights forever. Changing it to "spam light attack but call it an ability is retarded). Endgame results in "do no damage unless you hit this weakspot" which is also annoying as fucking hell.

Also ALL the Ultimates for vocations suck ass. Which is good. Since the SOOPER SKERIT vocation can't use Ultimates.
Which sucks because the only meaty feeling spells are bolide and maelstrom, and both feel more like Necromancy or seism in dd1 - and not the high variations.

It honestly feels like after all these years these retards forgot how they made DD1 and just made single player DDO (since iirc that was a basic attack-palooza) but in RE:Engine with the original plotline of DD1 but they somehow had less time.
 
derpherp2 said:
Not only is the writing barebones but they expect people to CARE about the guy you just met for two quests in a credits sequence. It's fucking retarded.
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I actually can understand that. Trying to figure out what players will care about is sometimes very difficult. I mean, look at Lady Dimitrescu, who barely had a role in her game.
 
I'll drop this post like an emergency roadside shit.
First, I haven't finished the game and I won't read the thread because you niggers are allergic to spoiler tags and I autistically care about my experience not being ruined.
Second, I now believe the majority of people either have no sense of the aesthetic or are straight dogshit at making characters. The amount of butt ugly tatted up skanks I see in the rift is driving me to become a furry, since apparently it's hard to fuck up a beastren's appearance.
Third.. well...I still have nightmares...
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ShapelyMutton said:
With how much discord fags have been spamming /v/ and other social media in order to force a critical panning of the game I (with bias) believe that the expansion leaks are manufactured for this purpose. to intentionally get people angry (see

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I do not recall any mention of a Dragons Dogma 2 expansion from the Ragnar Locker Leaks but feel free to point it out to me if you can source it. With some of the timelines that we got from these leaks including yet unannouced Street Fighter 6 repackagings I doubt that they would fail to include this in the timelines if it was planned pre launch.
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The specific argument I saw against this image was that the Resident Evil X title text exactly matches Resident Evil 3 remake and they wouldn't keep consistent in that. Also Cataclysm is a dumb name
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I misworded the start of the post, What I meant to say is that, if this leak is legit it would explain why the game is so barebones, most of the content was just ported over from the first and the new content doesn't make up for the old content that wasn't added, hence my early post about how this is Dragon's Dogma 0.85. Even if they got greedy and intentionally held back content,that doesnt explain why they made moronic design decisions, and removed QoL features like being able to equip gear from storage, and having gear sorted by class.

So what exactly is all the discord tranny shit I keep hearing about? I saw it levied against anyone who had doubts or legit criticisms so i just assumed it was just an insult shills used.
On a personal note, I don't need trannies to get me angry at the game, the more I play the more I've come to dislike it for all the missed potential it could of had.
 
Estate said:
I'll drop this post like an emergency roadside shit.
First, I haven't finished the game and I won't read the thread because you niggers are allergic to spoiler tags and I autistically care about my experience not being ruined.
Second, I now believe the majority of people either have no sense of the aesthetic or are straight dogshit at making characters. The amount of butt ugly tatted up skanks I see in the rift is driving me to become a furry, since apparently it's hard to fuck up a beastren's appearance.
Third.. well...I still have nightmares...
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It's both. The vast majority of people who play games with character creations are dogshit at actually making anything AND have no aesthetic sense. Pawn fashion still sucks though, in spite of the over simplified armor somehow, and the bikini/thong bottoms are still dominant in female pawns.

So I beat the dragon last night. I'm fairly certain I missed a lot of side stuff. And I really didn't explore as much as I kept telling myself I would. I was just anxious to see what post dragon was like this time around.

I got mind fucked a bit the "credits" because it just felt so wrong. The little coronation and "then everybody clapped" felt like a fever dream, and then I noticed the spook person.

Imagine my shock when I was forced to fight the dragon again in a "fuck you, take the fake ass happy ending or perpetually fight the dragon until your will breaks". But I got trolled because I thought doing it all over again and speaking to the ghost would lead to something different, but I was sent to fight the dragon again and had my suspicion about the intent confirmed, so I immediately pulled out Godsbane and an heroed.

The following cutscene with you and the dragon plummeting into the brine was kino, and the world now looks like hell. Ended up dying when I got ganked by a Lesser Dragon and a gang of poison harpies, saw a new cutscene I don't quite understand where I woke up in what appeared to be the Rivage Elders shack watching shit burn down/get destroyed, then got told my journey was over. And reloading took me back to just after the awaking to this new fucked world.

I'm more confused about this ending than I was DD1 somehow, in a good way I think. I'm enjoying the main Dragon/Arisen story. Idk what they fuck was/is up with the false Arisen and the queen though. Think it was this games Salvation Cult swerve. Where you think it's gonna be some big important scheme when it gets snuffed out unceremoniously when the Dragon shows back up, because that's what actually matters. Or it was massively undercooked. Either way I'll just treat it like Salvation. Just a checklist until I get to dragon shit
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Honored guest said:
So what exactly is all the discord tranny shit I keep hearing about?
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It can be both waving away criticism as well as a legitimate concern but prior to the release of DD2 there were more than a couple instances of coordinated spamming of images purported to be leaks that were just fabrications to rile people up.
One of the most standout of these was some overzealous technical specifications. I'll edit this post with some supporting thread links later in the day.
Whether I think it's just trolling or an active agitation campaign with a goal differs from day to day.

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Image hash search for the technical specifications mentioned
You can search Shazamtranny for some schizo counter posting

Discord screenshots of raid coordinating aren't real evidence but they get posted every now and then.
 
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Mystic Spearman or whatever it's called is the best vocation, but also super broken. Having a button that makes you invulnerable for a few seconds is based but I feel it has the potential to trivialize combat if you're the kind to care about that sort of thing.

On the topic of performance the only issue I've had is occasional split-second texture downgrades which become more frequent during longer sessions. I assume it's either an optimization issue or a problem with the Xbox SeS I'm playing it on.
Rick The Stick said:
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There's more to do in the Unmoored World fyi
TingoFranDingo said:
The writing was a bit off to me. Felt like some plot points showed up and then were completely dropped, which is kinda a peeve of mine.
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So the same as the first game.
 
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Back me up! said:
Capcom has a survey up as they are basically fishing to see how much to charge for a expansion DLC


Even has options if you didn't buy the game yet and why.
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As if these survey's matter, they never do with big corpos.
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Really trying to make sure you know about those content creators they (probably) paid to further influence the game. Trying to make sure they get their return investment in them. I do find it interesting that depending on the options you pick you'll get additional choices. Background you get is boring too.
 
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