Dragon Quest

[Buttigieg2020]

IX sold very well in the west without devolving into a mediocre melodramatic ARPG, which is a much more crowded market anyway. It’s not helped by using Sugiyama for music again, even though he’s 90. How do the expect to compete with other high budget games if there’s only 2 songs and they both sound like midi ass?

They fucked up with 11 by not advertising it worth a damn. I just hope we don’t lose one of the few remaining good turn based series. XI really exceeded my expectations gameplay and story wise.

The spin-offs look interesting though.

 

[BananaSplit]

Also what is it with businesses killing the sure fire thing chasing after a cryptid market that doesn't exist?

I dunno but the whole "adult-like content + revamped command battles" being highlighted, and coupled with the simultaneous worldwide release, are sure giving me strong impressions that it's getting the Tales Of Arise & FF7R treatment. Even if we're not getting new info before next year or so, it's already starting on depressing thoughts. Better hope we're proven wrong in the future.

But I sure dislike this trend of turning every franchise with slow-paced gameplay into speedy flashy things because of ADHD fags

Again, the japanese folks look quite pissed at the whole announcement

The spin-offs look interesting though.

Dragon Quest Builders is a better building alternative to Minecraft in my opinion, since it gives you a storyline, objectives to work through a sense of progression
Dragon Quest Heroes 1 is a tower defense-like game with some musou elements while the second Heroes game is more of a sandbox ARPG title.
Haven't actually tried the Monsters and Slime spinoffs yet so I cannot comment on those, but I've heard good things about them

 

[Pissmaster]

I... never though I'd see the day when Square-Enix went full retard with their most reliable RPG, and Sega is now the king of turn-based JRPGs.

Again, the japanese folks look quite pissed at the whole announcement

They call it "do-ra-ku-ii-12"?

drag queen jew knee

 

[Marissa Moira]

I dunno but the whole "adult-like content + revamped command battles" being highlighted, and coupled with the simultaneous worldwide release, are sure giving me strong impressions that it's getting the Tales Of Arise & FF7R treatment. Even if we're not getting new info before next year or so, it's already starting on depressing thoughts. Better hope we're proven wrong in the future.

But I sure dislike this trend of turning every franchise with slow-paced gameplay into speedy flashy things because of ADHD fags

Again, the japanese folks look quite pissed at the whole announcement

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Dragon Quest Builders is a better building alternative to Minecraft in my opinion, since it gives you a storyline, objectives to work through a sense of progression
Dragon Quest Heroes 1 is a tower defense-like game with some musou elements while the second Heroes game is more of a sandbox ARPG title.
Haven't actually tried the Monsters and Slime spinoffs yet so I cannot comment on those, but I've heard good things about them

But dragon quest 11's combat wasn't slow paced. Most fights could be ended within 1-3 turns due to how broken boomerang and the AOE moves were. The Pep moves were all especially broken and they tried to balance some out with RNG. But people manipulated them into spawning metal slimes as a form of power leveling.

On average Persona 5 took more time per battle because they had the dialogue system.

Hell they could go the route of DOS2 and have quick turn based battles take place anywhere while also accounting for environmental properties and attributes. Those are just kneejerk reactions from twitter because everyone is just guessing at this point due to no gameplay footage.

 

[Buttigieg2020]

I dunno but the whole "adult-like content + revamped command battles" being highlighted, and coupled with the simultaneous worldwide release, are sure giving me strong impressions that it's getting the Tales Of Arise & FF7R treatment. Even if we're not getting new info before next year or so, it's already starting on depressing thoughts. Better hope we're proven wrong in the future.

But I sure dislike this trend of turning every franchise with slow-paced gameplay into speedy flashy things because of ADHD fags

Again, the japanese folks look quite pissed at the whole announcement

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Dragon Quest Builders is a better building alternative to Minecraft in my opinion, since it gives you a storyline, objectives to work through a sense of progression
Dragon Quest Heroes 1 is a tower defense-like game with some musou elements while the second Heroes game is more of a sandbox ARPG title.
Haven't actually tried the Monsters and Slime spinoffs yet so I cannot comment on those, but I've heard good things about them

Builders 2 is great, builders 1 is not really worth playing.

 

[ZMOT]

Hm... I dunno, they haven't really made anything grab my attention. I don't think I've bought anything of theirs since Sleeping Dogs and FFXIV.

Maybe I'm just left behind.

I liked outriders, but they only published that one.

I dunno but the whole "adult-like content + revamped command battles" being highlighted, and coupled with the simultaneous worldwide release, are sure giving me strong impressions that it's getting the Tales Of Arise & FF7R treatment. Even if we're not getting new info before next year or so, it's already starting on depressing thoughts. Better hope we're proven wrong in the future.

But I sure dislike this trend of turning every franchise with slow-paced gameplay into speedy flashy things because of ADHD fags

Again, the japanese folks look quite pissed at the whole announcement

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I don't speak moonrunes, but I assume it's arguments that there are great turn based RPGs and there's no need for a change?
but nice to see them get rightfully pissed, question remains if it will change anything.

Builders 2 is great, builders 1 is not really worth playing.

1 is a console exclusive on top of that. in squeenix fashion they made a switch port but not pc...
had it on my list since I like to start at the beginning, is it even any relevant to the story?

 

[Marissa Moira]

I don't speak moonrunes, but I assume it's arguments that there are great turn based RPGs and there's no need for a change?
but nice to see them get rightfully pissed, question remains if it will change anything.

Honestly there's so many types of turn based systems that contain different elements I really wouldn't be worried.

Considering that there's equally old RPG series like Legend of heroes and Ys changing their battle systems for the next installment and they seem to be including many QOL improvements.

You can switch between two types of battle systems for different attributes.

 

[Buttigieg2020]

1 is a console exclusive on top of that. in squeenix fashion they made a switch port but not pc...
had it on my list since I like to start at the beginning, is it even any relevant to the story?

Builders 1 and 2 are based loosely on Dragon Quest 1 and 2, which means the only connection is the hero being reincarnated again. It’s like Zelda. You don’t need to play 1 for 2’s story. I’m not sure the PC port of 2 is really very good though.

Ys changing their battle systems for the next installment

Ys was always an action RPG though, so the transition from bump combat to 2D action, to 3D action felt like a natural progression.

 

[BananaSplit]

I don't speak moonrunes, but I assume it's arguments that there are great turn based RPGs and there's no need for a change?
but nice to see them get rightfully pissed, question remains if it will change anything.

They're basically mocking the idea that Dragon Quest 12 is promoted to be more "for adults" while the previous kids-rated DQ games already handled depressing moments before (for example, the siren in DQ11 falls into despair and kills herself on screen once revealed that her human love died because of their lifespan difference). Either Horii is going senile/bullshitting or the devs & publisher really plan on fully changing DQ for the western audience.

I would be very surprised if I don't see a "KyoAni 2: Electric Boogaloo" happening within the japanese Square-Enix HQ, specifically when more info get to confirm the initial fears. You don't get to fuck with Dragon Quest without inviting hell upon yourselves, DQ9 was proof of that.

 

[ZMOT]

I would be very surprised if I don't see a "KyoAni 2: Electric Boogaloo" happening within the japanese Square-Enix HQ, specifically when more info get to confirm the initial fears. You don't get to fuck with Dragon Quest without inviting hell upon yourselves, DQ9 was proof of that.

dunno why, but it would be hilarious to see the reaction to a brown and grey DQ with linkin park soundtrack.

Builders 1 and 2 are based loosely on Dragon Quest 1 and 2, which means the only connection is the hero being reincarnated again. It’s like Zelda. You don’t need to play 1 for 2’s story. I’m not sure the PC port of 2 is really very good though.

still would like to see the improvements in gameplay tho, if I ever go back from 2 to 1 it would probably annoy me too much.
fuck squeenix and console for never getting cheap even years later (unless you're lucky to stumble upon it in a bargain bin).

 

[Duncan Hills Coffee]

All I've gotta say is that this is gonna be real interesting to watch since Dragon Quest is unfathomably larger in Japan, way more of an established fanbase than here in the West, and from the sound of things this isn't the first time there was a huge backlash against changing the long-established formula. Of course, there's now the added issue of trying to appeal to Westerners, something that was more of an afterthought in the past, so who knows how effective the backlash is gonna be.

 

[Dark Edea]

They're basically mocking the idea that Dragon Quest 12 is promoted to be more "for adults" while the previous kids-rated DQ games already handled depressing moments before (for example, the siren in DQ11 falls into despair and kills herself on screen once revealed that her human love died because of their lifespan difference). Either Horii is going senile/bullshitting or the devs & publisher really plan on fully changing DQ for the western audience.

I would be very surprised if I don't see a "KyoAni 2: Electric Boogaloo" happening within the japanese Square-Enix HQ, specifically when more info get to confirm the initial fears. You don't get to fuck with Dragon Quest without inviting hell upon yourselves, DQ9 was proof of that.

Don't forget the busty bombshell character spending year or so being brainwashed and raped by a monster. I sure haven't.

Anyway. ATB is all you really need. Don't overthink it. Chrono Trigger's variant was really good. And then you strap a engaging equipment/magic system to the side. The biggest sin anymore is that equips don't change character appearances in most games.

 

[KEKMUHLORD]

Square-Enix has been like this for awhile now.

Has a massively popular traditional JRPG game in Japan that does well in the West with turn-based combat?

Time to "modernize" the systems so everyone can play it cause they think it will bring in more money.

Even tho one of the big draws of DQ is that it is a traditional JRPG.

Also, if there one gaming fanbase you do not wanna fuck with in Japan.... It is the DQ fanbase. Square-Enix is gonna unleash hell on themselves..... Again.

 

[Kotol]

I dunno but the whole "adult-like content + revamped command battles" being highlighted, and coupled with the simultaneous worldwide release, are sure giving me strong impressions that it's getting the Tales Of Arise & FF7R treatment. Even if we're not getting new info before next year or so, it's already starting on depressing thoughts. Better hope we're proven wrong in the future.

But I sure dislike this trend of turning every franchise with slow-paced gameplay into speedy flashy things because of ADHD fags

Again, the japanese folks look quite pissed at the whole announcement

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Dragon Quest Builders is a better building alternative to Minecraft in my opinion, since it gives you a storyline, objectives to work through a sense of progression
Dragon Quest Heroes 1 is a tower defense-like game with some musou elements while the second Heroes game is more of a sandbox ARPG title.
Haven't actually tried the Monsters and Slime spinoffs yet so I cannot comment on those, but I've heard good things about them

Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 1 and 2 are imo better than Pokemon, because it's 3v3, which gives battles more depth (I haven't heard much about newer Pokemon games, but they also added 3v3s I think?). Plus, one of my favourite features is the synthesis of monsters, you take 2 monsters and fuse them into 1 stronger monster with a new look, plus you get to choose skills from the parent monsters as well as their own. You can create some completely broken fighters that way. And to get certain monsters, you have to synthesize very specific ones. Here is an example: You fuse 2 Slimes, you get a Slime +1. You take 2 Slimes +1 and you get a King Slime. I recommend Joker 2 more than 1.

I also didn't see it, but yes, DQ Heroes really is some sort of Musou and Tower Defense hybrid, with some DQ RPG elements and charm thrown into it. They added multiplayer in Heroes 2, but of course you cannot run around the open world with your buddy, you can only play a dungeon crawler mode and certain story missions. Maybe I'll get it on Steam during the sale.

 

[Rotollo 2]

The most interesting part of the announcement for me is 3 2d HD (sounds like a kingdom hearts title at this point), since while I liked octopath travler's artstyle the game itself never really drew me in. 3 on the other hand I always found much more fitting in this style than like a fully 3d remake. Plus considering the best version of DQ 3 is still probably on the SNES with the later ports being bastardized versions of it

the devs & publisher really plan on fully changing DQ for the western audience.

Okay I'm not the biggest DQ nut but I thought 11 did damn well all things considered and helped grow a bigger share of the franchise. or is this more of a case of Square Enix saying "its not final fantasy numbers, throw it in the trash!!!"?

 

[Billy_Sama]

I would love to see the reaction in Japan if Square-Enix brings someone like Brianna Wu or Anita Sarkeensian to provide direction of the next Dragon Quest game. White Piggu go home would be fitting chant to Square-Enix.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

Dragon Quest XII getting the Yakuza: Like A Dragon treatment doesn’t surprise me if you consider the success of the recent Yakuza title.

If anything, I’d be more interested to see what the DQ III remake will look like with the people behind Octopath Traveler. I was hoping they’d make a sequel to the Dragon Quest Builders series.

 

[gaystoner]

Dragon Quest XII getting the Yakuza: Like A Dragon treatment doesn’t surprise me if you consider the success of the recent Yakuza title.

If anything, I’d be more interested to see what the DQ III remake will look like with the people behind Octopath Traveler. I was hoping they’d make a sequel to the Dragon Quest Builders series.

It would be interesting if they made a Dragon Quest in the same vein as Shin Megami Tensei where majority of the zones are based on real world locations.

 

[Chandler Bing]

Only experience was the demo for 8, and a rom of 9; wasn't a fan of the latter, but friends enjoyed it when I talked about it with them.
Really wanted to nab a copy of 8 for 3DS though, if for the convenience

They have 8 on mobile devices. I hear it doesn't have the voice acting files though and its also $20 for lacking that and more.

 

[Someone in a Tree]

I’ve not played any of the Dragon Quest games. Considering that I only have a Switch and the graphics for the 1-3 ports look awful, would XI be a good entry into the series?