Dragon Quest

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NerdShamer said:
It was the fifth one, wasn't it? Since that the one which was lauded for the story...And the horse.

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Can't forget the horse, folks.
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You son of a BITCH!
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CivilianOfTheFandomWars said:
No, I found it. It was Dragon Quest Monsters or something.
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Dragon Warrior Monsters was pretty basic for what it was, but coming off the coattails of pokemon it definitely did somethings better. First off it added natures from DQIII to monsters and the ability to change them. Plus you could change your monsters gender in the egg for a nominal fee. Something Pokemon wouldn't even let you do till... what gen 7 or some shit? There's a lot of depth, but the game itself is very short luckily the post-game is fighting bosses from past games. I played a lot of it when i was younger and those music tracks are burned into my memory.
 
Sigma said:
I started checking the series out after Hero was added to smash but not that much. I played the first two games and I'm sorta working on 3 but I'm finding it pretty whatever at this point for the most part. I can see how it would be influential but still
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Roto Trilogy is alright but the series really hit its stride after the first three games. In my opinion. There are some people out there that really love those first three.
 
Marissa Moira said:
exceptional individual why would you get Angry at Bianca being defiled?

She's not the real canon path, That's Debora.
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Then pray tell why does all the official artwork of your kids have them with blonde hair? Hmm!? Checkmate Deboraists.
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Scandinadian Bacon said:
Roto Trilogy is alright but the series really hit its stride after the first three games. In my opinion. There are some people out there that really love those first three.
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Very true, but if those people are old enough to have grown up with the Roto Trilogy or if it was their first experience with an RPG, I guess I can understand their extreme affection even if the games and remakes that followed were superior. Which I guess is why III holds a special place for me. But if someone wants to try DQ I, II and III now after already having extensive experience with other RPG games, then they probably won't really be able to have a special attachment or interest for the first three.
 
It's a lot like Final Fantasy, to bring in a sister series.

Final Fantasy is pretty good, I liked it a lot even though my party members would attack blank spaces after enemies died. But that game was mind blowing for what it set out to do and actually achieved. And Final Fantasy II (the real one) was also pretty good and I liked it even though I played that one much later on a ROM. Final Fantasy III (the real one) started to pick up steam with the job system and more intricate story and I think around then Squaresoft started to find their legs. Because then...

Final Fantasy IV came along. Oh man. That one was running on all cylinders. FFIV is the shit and probably the second-best paced Final Fantasy game after FFVI and definitely the best-written Final Fantasy game.

Oh. Don't play the Final Fantasy iOS ports. Gouge your eyes out with a spoon instead. It will be a more enriching experience.
 
eternal dog mongler said:
I still remember DQVIII getting lambasted upon release for being too grindy.

You have to grind out a couple levels at the start, but that's something you have to do in all DQ games. After that, you don't really need to anymore unless you want to do the postgame stuff. Yes, some of the later bosses pull some shit but that's half the fun.
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I remember having some trouble with DQVIII, particularly Dhoulmagus(I'm impressed I remember how to spell that) and the final boss, but since jrpgs aren't usually my genre of choice, I was never sure if I didn't grind enough or if I was just bad at it.

Hm, looking back it now, I suppose it wasn't too grindy if those are the only fights that really stick out to me from when I played it years back. There was the odd roaming monster that would tear my ass a new one though
 
KingofNothing said:
I remember having some trouble with DQVIII, particularly Dhoulmagus(I'm impressed I remember how to spell that) and the final boss, but since jrpgs aren't usually my genre of choice, I was never sure if I didn't grind enough or if I was just bad at it.

Hm, looking back it now, I suppose it wasn't too grindy if those are the only fights that really stick out to me from when I played it years back. There was the odd roaming monster that would tear my ass a new one though
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If you're not level 30 by the time you reach the first boss, you're not playing your JRPG correctly.
 
Scandinadian Bacon said:
If you're not level 30 by the time you reach the first boss, you're not playing your JRPG correctly.
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I want to say I was a solid 35 across the board because I did some grinding after I got soundly rocked the first go. Ok, so I was a decent level when I beat it. Guess I just expected endgame to end on higher levels. Well that's good to know if I ever get a chance to play it again
 
I know when I played the remake of DQVII a year or two ago I actually got up to max level. Never managed to do that before in a Dragon Quest game. But then when you're talking about beating God in the most literal sense, why be anything less than top tier?
 
Scandinadian Bacon said:
I know when I played the remake of DQVII a year or two ago I actually got up to max level. Never managed to do that before in a Dragon Quest game. But then when you're talking about beating God in the most literal sense, why be anything less than top tier?
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So what rewards does the Almighty give you for fighting under 20 turns? Same as in the original game or something different? Does he move into the little village you built in the 3DS version as a reward? And before you ask, yes, I stopped playing it after beating the main story to focus on the DQ8 remake.
 
KingofNothing said:
I remember having some trouble with DQVIII, particularly Dhoulmagus(I'm impressed I remember how to spell that) and the final boss, but since jrpgs aren't usually my genre of choice, I was never sure if I didn't grind enough or if I was just bad at it.

Hm, looking back it now, I suppose it wasn't too grindy if those are the only fights that really stick out to me from when I played it years back. There was the odd roaming monster that would tear my ass a new one though
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You get some interesting dhoulmagus backstory in the remake

Still in middle of 8. I feel like it will take forever to get Mervyn and Aishe
 
jellycar said:
You get some interesting dhoulmagus backstory in the remake
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I'm almost considering getting the remake out of curiosity. How does it compare with the original?

Also, is VII any good? I've thought about getting the 3DS remake, but it sounds overwhelming and might be a bit much for a newcomer.
 
Duncan Hills Coffee said:
I'm almost considering getting the remake out of curiosity. How does it compare with the original?

Also, is VII any good? I've thought about getting the 3DS remake, but it sounds overwhelming and might be a bit much for a newcomer.
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VIII for 3DS adds a lot of new stuff, like some new cutscenes, a new boss, new party members and a new and unexpected marriage option.
You can now choose to marry Titty Queen Jessica.
I still prefer the original, but both are still great.

If you don't mind spending a lot of time collecting mysterious fragments, then I suggest the original version of VII, which I honestly think is still better than the 3DS one.
 
GeneralFriendliness said:
If you don't mind spending a lot of time collecting mysterious fragments, then I suggest the original version of VII, which I honestly think is still better than the 3DS one.
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At first I wasn't considering the original but it's surprisingly not as expensive as I thought it would be (though it is weird the US release is still called Dragon Warrior). In what ways is the original better?
 
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Duncan Hills Coffee said:
I'm almost considering getting the remake out of curiosity. How does it compare with the original?

Also, is VII any good? I've thought about getting the 3DS remake, but it sounds overwhelming and might be a bit much for a newcomer.
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Lots of bonus stuff extra scenes and you get Red and Morrie as full time party members
 
Duncan Hills Coffee said:
At first I wasn't considering the original but it's surprisingly not as expensive as I thought it would be (though it is weird the US release is still called Dragon Warrior). In what ways is the original better?
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First off, I should mention that DQ7 is the black sheep of the family for a reason. Its not exactly the most well received game in the series, and the worst part of DQ7 in PS1 was the tedium of searching for fragments. Still I prefer the original since it allows more room for roleplay than the 3DS one which is where the heart of the series lies and I like tedious searches. So again that's just me, otherwise, its best to stick with the 3DS version if you don't want to waste too much time. In the end both the 3DS and PS1 versions are still my least favorites in the series. Although that's not saying I hate them, just that they really don't live up to the rest.
 
GeneralFriendliness said:
So what rewards does the Almighty give you for fighting under 20 turns? Same as in the original game or something different? Does he move into the little village you built in the 3DS version as a reward? And before you ask, yes, I stopped playing it after beating the main story to focus on the DQ8 remake.
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I don't fucking remember. I think it was tablets to a new pedestal in the DS version.
 
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