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I'm worried about the new scenarios and it's a bit concerning that they're fucking with original designs. I'm glad they kept the overture. I started playing VIII and XI recently and it's not lost on me how important this series is it's very kino and heartfelt.
 
SSj_Ness (Yiffed) said:
"Wokeism is dead!"

Square just can't help itself, gotta fuck with everything.
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Japan is like rural Ohio, they're culturally a few years/decades behind the rest of the world. Wokeshit is dying a deserved death in the West (but we have a long way to go before we're fully rid of it) but in Japan they're still approaching the derp stage.

Also, remember that the CCP is actively trying to subvert Japan with communist manipulation (like Jewish manipulation, only somehow dumber and soysauce flavored) and their elite schools like Tokyo U are apparently as pozzed as Harvard / Toronto / Yale / etc. There is hope tho, it's much more culturally acceptable to be racist / xenophobic / nationalist / etc in Japan, so their most recent efforts to import their own replacements were met with a whole shitload of people telling them to fuck off and die.

The important thing to remember is that Yuji Horii openly made fun of this shit with Toriyama's old editor live on air. They went complete thermonuclear DFE on it and the Woke Defense League tried to AKSHUALLY it away ("AKSHUALLY they translated this single kanji wrong making a single unimportant word different in this 5 minute clip THE ENTIRE CLIP IS WRONG NOW GO AWAY") but, yeah.

We'll eventually find out there's a Sweet Baby Inc style consulting firm wormtounging these companies about how "Americans won't buy your game if you don't pander to insane leftist women in California who never buy games," probably after a major IP failure. The real problem is the two publishers (Nintendo / Sony) seem to have been subverted, so it's going to get a whole lot worse and stupider before it gets better.
 
Hey guys, the DQ bug bit me again, and I have questions.

So... what the heck is this "Adventure of Dai" thing? I saw that there's a game based on the anime/manga but is the manga itself actually based on any of the games?

Also how do you guys feel about the 1991 Adventure of Dai anime vs the 2020 one? I'm willing to bet the 1991 is better.

Dai is the only DQ anime I have no familiarity with--I've seen a few episodes of the first DQ anime ("Legend of Hero Abel," aka "Yamcha's RPG Adventure"), and a movie called The Emblem of Roto (which to me was "DQ in name only"). But Dai is a blind spot because... well, it seemed to have nothing to do with the games (Abel Yuusha is at least a loose adaptation of DQ3).
 
skykiii said:
Hey guys, the DQ bug bit me again, and I have questions.

So... what the heck is this "Adventure of Dai" thing? I saw that there's a game based on the anime/manga but is the manga itself actually based on any of the games?

Also how do you guys feel about the 1991 Adventure of Dai anime vs the 2020 one? I'm willing to bet the 1991 is better.

Dai is the only DQ anime I have no familiarity with--I've seen a few episodes of the first DQ anime ("Legend of Hero Abel," aka "Yamcha's RPG Adventure"), and a movie called The Emblem of Roto (which to me was "DQ in name only"). But Dai is a blind spot because... well, it seemed to have nothing to do with the games (Abel Yuusha is at least a loose adaptation of DQ3).
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I've actually heard the 2020 Anime is pretty good. IIRC it's by the Dragon Ball Super team while they were waiting on the DBS manga and Toriyama to write a few new seasons? Not sure.

But it's basically your bog standard late 80s fantasy manga with a DQ theme -- in both cases, in a good way. It's all original content and characters and setting, but I believe some of it has bled into DQ lore proper (for example, I believe the spell Madante originally came from Dai, and there's a dual elemental attack that was a end of season supermove or something that became a thing in DQ games).

Of one note is IIRC the manga had characters actually change classes, in the DQ style -- one of the characters is a priestess and becomes a martial artist later on? Or something?

There is a Dai game, which is currently dirt cheap on steam ($24, 60% off). https://store.steampowered.com/app/1895810/Infinity_Strash_DRAGON_QUEST_The_Adventure_of_Dai/

It's an Action RPG apparently, which made a lot of people worried they were prototyping DQ12's engine with it. But with recent comments from Square Enix after Expedition 33 or whatever and how they might need to look at Turn Based gaming again in future titles, well, here's hoping they don't Final Fantasy our Dragon Quest.
 
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It's an Action RPG apparently, which made a lot of people worried they were prototyping DQ12's engine with it. But with recent comments from Square Enix after Expedition 33 or whatever and how they might need to look at Turn Based gaming again in future titles, well, here's hoping they don't Final Fantasy our Dragon Quest.
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Square would have to completely lose their fucking minds to do that. Final Fantasy was always a series of experimentation, but most of Dragon Quest's entire appeal is that the series is very rooted in tradition and slow to change--most of the experimentation is relegated to the spinoff titles. If they made the next mainline game suddenly an action-RPG, that would probably be the end of the "DQ release is an unofficial public holiday" furor right then and there.
 
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A party member's clothes were censored in according to the approval of the greater Woke Caliphate.

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Can't have a [checks notes] Professional Dancer from a tribe of tribal gypsies dress like a dancer, that would be inappropriate. Better to have her dress like a proper gymthot whore from a US Onlyfans site, that's empowering.

But other than that it's entirely too early to know. The game has a bit where a female character leaves your party because her parents think it's inappropriate for a young girl to be adventuring. That will probably be changed to be a bunch of girl power bullshit.
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Didn't Dragon Quest XI have a character get brainwashed and turned into a literal sex slave?

I'm not too concerned about hotpants.
 
HTTP Error 404 said:
We'll eventually find out there's a Sweet Baby Inc style consulting firm wormtounging these companies about how "Americans won't buy your game if you don't pander to insane leftist women in California who never buy games," probably after a major IP failure. The real problem is the two publishers (Nintendo / Sony) seem to have been subverted, so it's going to get a whole lot worse and stupider before it gets better.
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Some of the more absurd and distinctly American things like changing the lips of the troll, makes me take what you're saying as a fact. Even if Yuji Hori is against it. Unless he's sets his foot down and banishes them from the company like St.Patrick did with the snakes. I have some suspicion this censorship will seep more and more into dragon quest. DQ12 might be a reprise, but as it's looking DQ12 is going to be the last game by the old guard.

To talk a little more positively. I'm sure the DQ 1 and 2 remakes will be fine. There isn't much to censor in those games and unlike snes release of DQ3 the remakes of the first two games on the system are little bare. I still hate the HD-2d look, but the animated sprites looked good in 3 minus the censorship.
 
Hermiöne Granger said:
I found this "REPLACES SOME SUBPLOTS WITH NEW SCENARIOS". I suspect the worst with these new replaced subplots.

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Off the top of my head replacing Dialac with a more thorough island and some of the disc 2 content wouldn't be so bad.

And they will probably muck with the opening few hours (again) despite it being really well done in the PS1 version imo.
 
Question,

Right now Dragon Quest XI is on sale on both Switch and Steam. Sorry if this was discussed ages ago but... how do people here feel about it?

I ask because I only have one friend who played it and he said he liked it but didn't love it. I've also seen the Zero Punctuation review, and--not that I take Yahtzee seriously, but--his claim is that he got 30 hours into the game and nothing happened. While I haven't played 11 myself, I do recall having this exact feeling with Dragon Quest VIII, and I've seen this sentiment (regarding 11) repeated by Steam reviewers.

But what are the opinions of people here?

(I'm likely not going to get it immediately because I own the first eight Dragon Quests, and I've only beaten two of them--the first two NES games--and part of me feels like I should beat the ones I have before getting another one).
 
skykiii said:
Question,

Right now Dragon Quest XI is on sale on both Switch and Steam. Sorry if this was discussed ages ago but... how do people here feel about it?

I ask because I only have one friend who played it and he said he liked it but didn't love it. I've also seen the Zero Punctuation review, and--not that I take Yahtzee seriously, but--his claim is that he got 30 hours into the game and nothing happened. While I haven't played 11 myself, I do recall having this exact feeling with Dragon Quest VIII, and I've seen this sentiment (regarding 11) repeated by Steam reviewers.

But what are the opinions of people here?

(I'm likely not going to get it immediately because I own the first eight Dragon Quests, and I've only beaten two of them--the first two NES games--and part of me feels like I should beat the ones I have before getting another one).
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The game spends too much time referencing older, better Dragon Quest games that I'd rather be playing.

The characters aren't very good.

The battle system changes versus the more traditional battle system in previous games bugs me.

The scenarios and overall plot are kinda weak. It's annoying that the pacing in the 2D version of the game is better but, and I'm not sure if it's just the Switch release, it has menu input lag in 2D which makes it borderline unplayable. It wasn't like that in the 3DS 2D mode.

It's also really unfortunate that the 3DS version of the game was never translated, it is genuinely the best despite the simple graphics and it ended up being the only version I finished despite being in moon runes.
 
There's details on the cut content: https://www.thegamer.com/dragon-quest-7-reimagined-content-cuts-casino-scenarios/
  • Three of the game's original scenarios: El Ciclo, Gröndal, and Providence.
  • Immigrant Town.
  • Monster Meadows.
  • Excellence Grading Organisation.
  • And, as I've already droned on about, the casino.
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In non retarded translation that's Litorud, Krage, and Probina. Which is odd because Litorud has the time loop scenario and Probina has the Priest & Goddess Statue both of which are some of the best scenarios in the game.

I never liked the Immigrant Town, and the Monster Park was always a weak mechanic added to be Pokemon-like which was popular at the time.
 
HTTP Error 404 said:
Japan is like rural Ohio, they're culturally a few years/decades behind the rest of the world. Wokeshit is dying a deserved death in the West (but we have a long way to go before we're fully rid of it) but in Japan they're still approaching the derp stage.

Also, remember that the CCP is actively trying to subvert Japan with communist manipulation (like Jewish manipulation, only somehow dumber and soysauce flavored) and their elite schools like Tokyo U are apparently as pozzed as Harvard / Toronto / Yale / etc. There is hope tho, it's much more culturally acceptable to be racist / xenophobic / nationalist / etc in Japan, so their most recent efforts to import their own replacements were met with a whole shitload of people telling them to fuck off and die.

The important thing to remember is that Yuji Horii openly made fun of this shit with Toriyama's old editor live on air. They went complete thermonuclear DFE on it and the Woke Defense League tried to AKSHUALLY it away ("AKSHUALLY they translated this single kanji wrong making a single unimportant word different in this 5 minute clip THE ENTIRE CLIP IS WRONG NOW GO AWAY") but, yeah.

We'll eventually find out there's a Sweet Baby Inc style consulting firm wormtounging these companies about how "Americans won't buy your game if you don't pander to insane leftist women in California who never buy games," probably after a major IP failure. The real problem is the two publishers (Nintendo / Sony) seem to have been subverted, so it's going to get a whole lot worse and stupider before it gets better.
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I largely agree, but Horii mocking woke shit still didn't result in it being removed, unfortunately.

skykiii said:
Question,

Right now Dragon Quest XI is on sale on both Switch and Steam. Sorry if this was discussed ages ago but... how do people here feel about it?

I ask because I only have one friend who played it and he said he liked it but didn't love it. I've also seen the Zero Punctuation review, and--not that I take Yahtzee seriously, but--his claim is that he got 30 hours into the game and nothing happened. While I haven't played 11 myself, I do recall having this exact feeling with Dragon Quest VIII, and I've seen this sentiment (regarding 11) repeated by Steam reviewers.

But what are the opinions of people here?

(I'm likely not going to get it immediately because I own the first eight Dragon Quests, and I've only beaten two of them--the first two NES games--and part of me feels like I should beat the ones I have before getting another one).
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I haven't beaten DQ11, but it's very good and well worth getting. It is one of the best examples in modernizing a series while still keeping it traditional.
 
skykiii said:
Right now Dragon Quest XI is on sale on both Switch and Steam. Sorry if this was discussed ages ago but... how do people here feel about it?
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I play and enjoy all of the Dragon Quest games and XI was great. It was a lot of fun and one of the best in the series.
 
Next on the remake list are the beloved Dragon Quest 8, so the big question now is, how will they fuck this one up with their woke shit?.
 
Another question guys.

Playing Dragon Quest V now and I just wanna know one thing and a cursory glance at GameFAQs wasn't gonna give me the answer without finding a ton of other spoilers.

The question itself requires a spoiler actually:

So when the main character was a kid, he got a Sabrecub kitten--on my game it wound up named Borongo.

Then I get to the part where Gema kicks your ass and kills your dad and just leaves Borongo to go back into the wild.

Do you ever reunite with Borongo or is he gone for good?

(I'm at the part where you revisit Reinhart Castle as an adult after hearing rumors its gone to shit).
 
skykiii said:
Another question guys.

Playing Dragon Quest V now and I just wanna know one thing and a cursory glance at GameFAQs wasn't gonna give me the answer without finding a ton of other spoilers.

The question itself requires a spoiler actually:

So when the main character was a kid, he got a Sabrecub kitten--on my game it wound up named Borongo.

Then I get to the part where Gema kicks your ass and kills your dad and just leaves Borongo to go back into the wild.

Do you ever reunite with Borongo or is he gone for good?

(I'm at the part where you revisit Reinhart Castle as an adult after hearing rumors its gone to shit).
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I can't give a definitive answer since I last played the game 2 years ago. But, I'm almost certain he comes back to your party in the adult arc.
 
skykiii said:
Another question guys.

Playing Dragon Quest V now and I just wanna know one thing and a cursory glance at GameFAQs wasn't gonna give me the answer without finding a ton of other spoilers.

The question itself requires a spoiler actually:

So when the main character was a kid, he got a Sabrecub kitten--on my game it wound up named Borongo.

Then I get to the part where Gema kicks your ass and kills your dad and just leaves Borongo to go back into the wild.

Do you ever reunite with Borongo or is he gone for good?

(I'm at the part where you revisit Reinhart Castle as an adult after hearing rumors its gone to shit).
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You get him back, there's a whole mechanic in V involving having companion monsters.
As for the topic of XI played it and beat it and said fuck that shit to the extra super-dooper-saijin version of the last boss could fight cause it gives you nothing but an ass pat achievement and the fight itself it just what the pigroach would call a tryhard gimmick, there's no uniqueness to it you just load up on the yggdrasl dew and leaves and have the hero use magic burst and the one girl do her attack that kills her: rinse and repeat.
Thinking about it that's how a good portion of the post game fights go, you just get sorta shoehorned into the same combat formulas and it gets repetitive, oh and that door in tockington doesn't do anything if anyone didn't know it was a mechanic from the japanese release like they did in IX at the inn with the guest room that required an online connection.
 
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