Dragon Ball Thread - RIP Akira Toriyama

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RX-78 said:
So allegedly a certain scientist from a certain fighting game gets a cameo in the movie, and if that's true then that means that somewhere out there is a man working at bamco who managed to force his OC donut vore queen into his favorite childhood series by gaming the Japanese corporate etiquette of never questioning one's superiors. Let that be a lesson to all of us, there isn't anything you cannot accomplish in life if you sperg hard enough about it.
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Diabetic 21 shows up?!?
 
Tootsie Bear said:
looks like she was conceived by someone from DeviantArt who had a vore fetish.
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That is precisely what she is, all she's missing is the enormous belly and she'd be fresh off DA's front page.
T_Holygrail_Jesuschrist 2 said:
Diabetic 21 shows up?!?
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Allegedly the human she is based on appears in a brief review of the RRA's past scientists and her real name is revealed. Take it with a grain of salt, but so far all the rumors have come true.
 
capitalBBustard said:
Vegeta already had SSJ2 at that point, he got the Majin boost because he realised Goku was still more powerful than him during Goku's fight with Yakon.
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I hear people say that but he was never shown to use that form before Babidi boosted him. Where's that come from aside from speculation?
 
SSj_Ness said:
I hear people say that but he was never shown to use that form before Babidi boosted him. Where's that come from aside from speculation?
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Danzenshuu guides say that he got it during the timeskip. Him not having SS2 is also far more speculative than him having it.

Vegeta pretty consistently implies he's stronger than Gohan during the early part of Buu. He also shit talks Dabura being easy to beat, while Goku establishes that Dabura is about as strong as Perfect Cell (presumably pre self-destruct, as Cell basically went SS2 after it too). Only way he could say either of those things confidently is if he was SS2 himself.

More to the point, there's 0 evidence he doesn't have it. And the chief argument against him not being SS2 is that there's no mention or buildup for him finally getting the form for the first time. It would've been a plotpoint. He sees Goku turn SS2 against Yakon for a second, and he's very matter of fact about it, instead of having a fit. That sort of thing.

When Goku and Majin Vegeta fight, Goku compliments how hard he must've trained to become as strong as he did, while the majin boost itself is said to be minor, but enough to make up the constant difference between the two of them power wise. (This would literally be the point where you'd expect him to say sth like "if only I would've been able to use SS2, I knew I would be stronger than you").

Vegeta also goes SS2 against Kid Buu, needless to say he isn't majin at that point. Now you have to use pretzel logic and say that the majin boost unlocked his ability to use the transformation at all, which is not how the transformations work.

It's not like I didn't use to think he got SS2 by becoming Majin, it's a such a natural plotpoint you end up thinking that's what's going on by yourself, even though you are told nothing to that effect. You just expect that to be the case, because it seems so obvious since getting SS2 was such a big deal in the prior arc.
 
capitalBBustard said:
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If it didn't happen in the manga then it ain't official boy, I don't know why this is difficult for you to grasp. Toriyama vetoed those precious power level charts years ago by stating the super saiyan state increases strength by 10x instead of that 50x nonsense, the daizenshou is just some periphery media he signed off on to get an easy check, and now its waved around by retards like some kind of holy book in lieu of them making an argument to defend their dumb point of view.

Secondly, claiming vegeta made it to ss2 on his own but then needed Babidi's magic anyway just makes him look like an even bigger insecure faggot lmao.
 
RX-78 said:
If it didn't happen in the manga then it ain't official boy, I don't know why this is difficult for you to grasp. Toriyama vetoed those precious power level charts years ago by stating the super saiyan state increases strength by 10x instead of that 50x nonsense, the daizenshou is just some periphery media he signed off on to get an easy check, and now its waved around by retards like some kind of holy book in lieu of them making an argument to defend their dumb point of view.

Secondly, claiming vegeta made it to ss2 on his own but then needed Babidi's magic anyway just makes him look like an even bigger insecure faggot lmao.
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what are you sperging about, schizo? nobody talked about powerlevels, daizenshuu wasn't claimed to be a bible (I outright said "it is what it is"), it is official material by Shueshia though, and the point was that Vegeta already being SS2 wasn't only argued by people on forums, since that was the question to begin with

the next 4 paragraphs of my original post was just describing the manga and why he's SS2, to which you say, that it doesn't count unless it happened in the manga. you come across either reading disabled or having a bout of bipolar psychosis

also lol calm down
 
While we're waiting for the torrent, someone did a spoiler review of Super Hero with the confirmed leaks.
  • Gohan gets a new Beyond Ultimate form in the final battle
  • Gohan Blanco was Meme Magic'd into canon
  • Goku and Vegeta only train without transforming; Vegeta wins the session for real. Neither bail Gohan out or steal his thunder.
  • Piccolo gets (wished for) two new forms; all he does is change colors
  • Both Gammas are stronger than SSJ Gohan and Piccolo, but the latter two were able to surpass them; Gamma 2 dies while saving Gohan
  • Cell Max is the Big Bad and loses (duh)
  • Android 21's cameo is confirmed and she has a first name (Vomi)
  • Pan doesn't go SSJ, but learns how to fly
  • Neither Goten nor Trunks can go SSJ; the majority of their fusion screen time is Fat Gotenks
  • Bulma indeed wished for a bigger butt
Let's just hope this all means Gohan won't be losing any more powers.
 
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Pina Colada said:
While we're waiting for the torrent, someone did a spoiler review of Super Hero with the confirmed leaks.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wTkkYSEzQro
  • Gohan gets a new Beyond Ultimate form in the final battle
  • Gohan Blanco was Meme Magic'd into canon
  • Goku and Vegeta only train without transforming; Vegeta wins the session for real. Neither bail Gohan out or steal his thunder.
  • Piccolo gets (wished for) two new forms; all he does is change colors
  • Both Gammas are stronger than SSJ Gohan and Piccolo, but the latter two were able to surpass them; Gamma 2 dies while saving Gohan
  • Cell Max is the Big Bad and loses (duh)
  • Android 21's cameo is confirmed and she has a first name (Vomi)
  • Pan doesn't go SSJ, but learns how to fly
  • Neither Goten nor Trunks can go SSJ; the majority of their fusion screen time is Fat Gotenks
  • Bulma indeed wished for a bigger butt
Let's just hope this all means Gohan won't be losing any more powers.
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Doesn't sound too bad. I think it sounds more fun and I wonder if this will be like with Battle of Gods becoming the first season in Dragon Ball Super.
 
Pina Colada said:
While we're waiting for the torrent, someone did a spoiler review of Super Hero with the confirmed leaks.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wTkkYSEzQro
  • Gohan gets a new Beyond Ultimate form in the final battle
  • Gohan Blanco was Meme Magic'd into canon
  • Goku and Vegeta only train without transforming; Vegeta wins the session for real. Neither bail Gohan out or steal his thunder.
  • Piccolo gets (wished for) two new forms; all he does is change colors
  • Both Gammas are stronger than SSJ Gohan and Piccolo, but the latter two were able to surpass them; Gamma 2 dies while saving Gohan
  • Cell Max is the Big Bad and loses (duh)
  • Android 21's cameo is confirmed and she has a first name (Vomi)
  • Pan doesn't go SSJ, but learns how to fly
  • Neither Goten nor Trunks can go SSJ; the majority of their fusion screen time is Fat Gotenks
  • Bulma indeed wished for a bigger butt
Let's just hope this all means Gohan won't be losing any more powers.
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Well I'll be damned, memes do come true. Both Gohan going el blanco and Goku not stealing a win in any form. Sounds like a good time.
 
capitalBBustard said:
Danzenshuu guides say that he got it during the timeskip. Him not having SS2 is also far more speculative than him having it.

Vegeta pretty consistently implies he's stronger than Gohan during the early part of Buu. He also shit talks Dabura being easy to beat, while Goku establishes that Dabura is about as strong as Perfect Cell (presumably pre self-destruct, as Cell basically went SS2 after it too). Only way he could say either of those things confidently is if he was SS2 himself.

More to the point, there's 0 evidence he doesn't have it. And the chief argument against him not being SS2 is that there's no mention or buildup for him finally getting the form for the first time. It would've been a plotpoint. He sees Goku turn SS2 against Yakon for a second, and he's very matter of fact about it, instead of having a fit. That sort of thing.

When Goku and Majin Vegeta fight, Goku compliments how hard he must've trained to become as strong as he did, while the majin boost itself is said to be minor, but enough to make up the constant difference between the two of them power wise. (This would literally be the point where you'd expect him to say sth like "if only I would've been able to use SS2, I knew I would be stronger than you").

Vegeta also goes SS2 against Kid Buu, needless to say he isn't majin at that point. Now you have to use pretzel logic and say that the majin boost unlocked his ability to use the transformation at all, which is not how the transformations work.

It's not like I didn't use to think he got SS2 by becoming Majin, it's a such a natural plotpoint you end up thinking that's what's going on by yourself, even though you are told nothing to that effect. You just expect that to be the case, because it seems so obvious since getting SS2 was such a big deal in the prior arc.
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Vegeta may have meant that he had better control over his own power than Gohan had on his. Gohan is technically strong, but he hadn’t been keeping up with training and was essentially “out of shape”. So Gohan is stronger but can’t properly channel his power enough to actually use it properly. Kinda like that Super Sayin version Future Trunks used against Cell: technically stronger, but too slow to actually be of proper use.

It be like training to be the fastest runner, only to slack off for a year and then suddenly race a decent runner.
 
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I might be misreading Toriyama's SEG Quote (SEGs are the ones that give explicit multiplier for SS however, by the way) and taking "From what it was up to that point" wrong, but I think he is saying when he was designing the original SS he felt it was more like a x10 multiplier. SS being x10 makes no sense when Goku was stated just a few chapters in that same fight to be getting his ass kicked when he was using Kaio Ken x10 against Frieza and could only tie him with x20. What happens on-panel surpasses word of god.

However if he means up to the point after the Frieza saga it was x10, maybe that makes more sense. I might be an idiot here and am not reading something clear here. Maybe he did mean after the Frieza Saga he always saw it as more like x10 whenever he drew it. But if he meant from the get-go he felt it was supposed to be x10 well facts on-panel don't care about his feelings.
 
Tootsie Bear said:
Doesn't sound too bad. I think it sounds more fun and I wonder if this will be like with Battle of Gods becoming the first season in Dragon Ball Super.
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starborn427614 said:
Well I'll be damned, memes do come true. Both Gohan going el blanco and Goku not stealing a win in any form. Sounds like a good time.
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Right? I'd argue the Cell Saga deja vu that makes Gohan go apeshit (teehee) could've been less blatant, I'm just happy it's not a fumble!
 
Pina Colada said:
While we're waiting for the torrent, someone did a spoiler review of Super Hero with the confirmed leaks.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wTkkYSEzQro
  • Gohan gets a new Beyond Ultimate form in the final battle
  • Gohan Blanco was Meme Magic'd into canon
  • Goku and Vegeta only train without transforming; Vegeta wins the session for real. Neither bail Gohan out or steal his thunder.
  • Piccolo gets (wished for) two new forms; all he does is change colors
  • Both Gammas are stronger than SSJ Gohan and Piccolo, but the latter two were able to surpass them; Gamma 2 dies while saving Gohan
  • Cell Max is the Big Bad and loses (duh)
  • Android 21's cameo is confirmed and she has a first name (Vomi)
  • Pan doesn't go SSJ, but learns how to fly
  • Neither Goten nor Trunks can go SSJ; the majority of their fusion screen time is Fat Gotenks
  • Bulma indeed wished for a bigger butt
Let's just hope this all means Gohan won't be losing any more powers.
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I love that the “Bulma’s butt” thing was actually a thing.
 
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I have no words. What the actual fuck.
 
capitalBBustard said:
Word salad
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You assume I even read your live journal post--by God, why would I when you're another run of the mill retard clinging to that fanbook? As for vegta bragging about being as strong as Gohan, you're a retard for not remembering that base form improvements translates to the super states and that Gohan is way out of shape like @SteelPlatedHeart explains. No, Dabra being as strong as pre inflation cell doesn't mean vegeta made it to ss2 either--Goku was able to handle himself against that cell without it being a one sided match and assuming vegeta couldn't close and surpass that gap in seven years of training is stupid and doubly so when you're the one whitknighting his 5'2 ass in the first place.

Pina Colada said:
Right? I'd argue the Cell Saga deja vu that makes Gohan go apeshit (teehee) could've been less blatant, I'm just happy it's not a fumble!
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I've been hearing rumors that Dragon Ball is starting to slip in popularity with Japanese children because they've become used to team work shows/group fights, so this might be an effort from Bamco to course correct for the future. We all joke about the series being a pesso printer, but Bamco will always target its home demographic first. That being said:

Bungus Scrungus said:
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I have no words. What the actual fuck.
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Spics meming Gohan Blanco into the series is pretty dumb, but I appreciate Piccolo turning orange as a reference to his creating the balls when he was Kami. Nice father's day gift, Shenron.
 
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