Dragon Ball Thread - RIP Akira Toriyama

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i always felt off that Vegeta killed Nappa for simply fucking up one time considering the history they share and Vegeta being so proud of his race. then you remember

RX-78 said:
Really highlights how saiyan saga vegeta was not meant to stick around.
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this. Vegeta was never meant to be a long lasting character, hell i dont think Frizea was even a thing until the very end of the sayjan saga considering how Vegeta acted. then he got super popular during the Namake/Frizea saga and the rest is history.
 
Gravityqueen4life said:
i always felt off that Vegeta killed Nappa for simply fucking up one time considering the history they share and Vegeta being so proud of his race. then you remember
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Idk if it's a translation thing, but I'm pretty sure Nappa was paralyzed after taking a Kaioken to the spine. Given the life he and Vegeta led, killing him was probably the kinder course of action, all thing considered.

Having said that, Vegeta enjoyed doing it way too much.
 
Irrational Exuberance said:
Those who can, please spam this post with "Deviant" stickers.

(Mostly because they didn't post as a thumbnail.)
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You first, fag.
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Gravityqueen4life said:
i always felt off that Vegeta killed Nappa for simply fucking up one time considering the history they share and Vegeta being so proud of his race. then you remember

this. Vegeta was never meant to be a long lasting character, hell i dont think Frizea was even a thing until the very end of the sayjan saga considering how Vegeta acted. then he got super popular during the Namake/Frizea saga and the rest is history.
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You may remember how nappa and vegeta discussed using the dragon balls for immortality in order to enjoy an eternity of fighting, not once mentioning taking down Freeza or even alluding to obeying anyone but themselves and whomever was paying them for a given job.

As I understand the situation, the saiyan saga was meant to be the series finale with the thematic conclusion of Goku fighting his evil doppelganger as Kenshiro and Kinnikuman did for the ending of their stories before him. This is why Toriyama chose the "Z" addendum for the anime to denote that this was the big finish. The problem is that the series was making yen hand over fist, thus all the very, very awkward stalling techniques used throughout the whole arc: do any of you honestly believe that vegeta would stand perfectly still for three hours out of boredom? This also explains the terrible writing of having several popular characters job to a mid-boss which this has never happened before or since. If I recall correctly, Toriyama did a short manga explaining how Freeza was born due to vegeta becoming popular with edgy fourth graders and specifically cites his hair as the reason. A similar situation happened at the end of Freeza's saga when vegeta was revived along with everyone else due to the editors insisting he's still too popular to kill off and bandai wanting to make as much money as possible.

So yes, vegeta killing the last remaining saiyan sticks out like a sore thumb and I have to assume that bamco and Toriyama never bring this up simply because its awkward as hell and makes zero sense considering how vegeta screams about muh monkey pride constantly. Maybe his life time of jobbing is karma for being an edgelord?

Friendly Primarina said:
Idk if it's a translation thing, but I'm pretty sure Nappa was paralyzed after taking a Kaioken to the spine. Given the life he and Vegeta led, killing him was probably the kinder course of action, all thing considered.

Having said that, Vegeta enjoyed doing it way too much.
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Translation nothing, his vertebra were obliterated and vegeta points out that he has no use for a saiyan who cannot move.
 
RX-78 said:
So yes, vegeta killing the last remaining saiyan sticks out like a sore thumb and I have to assume that bamco and Toriyama never bring this up simply because its awkward as hell and makes zero sense considering how vegeta screams about muh monkey pride constantly. Maybe his life time of jobbing is karma for being an edgelord?


Translation nothing, his vertebra were obliterated and vegeta points out that he has no use for a saiyan who cannot move.
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And it's even stranger because of the magical Dragon Ball that can bring people back from the dead. No reason Vegeta couldn't bring back Nappa. Or, hell, all of the Saiyans since we found out that entire planets and their populations can be revived during the Buu Saga.
 
Lone Star said:
And it's even stranger because of the magical Dragon Ball that can bring people back from the dead. No reason Vegeta couldn't bring back Nappa. Or, hell, all of the Saiyans since we found out that entire planets and their populations can be revived during the Buu Saga.
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There is no way in hell that Moori or any other namek would allow vegeta to use the dragon balls after he wiped out one of their villages. The man really is great at fucking over the race he's so proud of.
 
Lone Star said:
And it's even stranger because of the magical Dragon Ball that can bring people back from the dead. No reason Vegeta couldn't bring back Nappa. Or, hell, all of the Saiyans since we found out that entire planets and their populations can be revived during the Buu Saga.
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As proud as Vegeta is of being a Saiyan, he doesn't really seem to care that much about the race as a whole. He probably adopts a Darwinist approach, like they deserved to get wiped out for being weak. He even quotes "survival of the fittest" when yelling at Gohan (in English).

As for Nappa, even by Saiyan standards he was dumb as a box of rocks. Vegeta literally has to yell at him not to touch the sharp object coming towards him at high speed. Vegeta was probably glad to be rid of him by that point (see above).
 
RX-78 said:
do any of you honestly believe that vegeta would stand perfectly still for three hours out of boredom? This also explains the terrible writing of having several popular characters job to a mid-boss which this has never happened before or since.
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I don't think it's too weird for Vegeta to wait for Goku. He wanted to make things more interesting. It was only filler, but the bug planet Vegeta & Nappa went to fit them pretty well, just fucking around high on power.

As for a midboss stomping several Z Fighters, that's exactly what Recoome did immediately afterwards. He was also a bigger, dumber underling too just like Nappa, now that I think about it. Dabura also, to a lesser extent since Kibito was one of his victims and was just a nobody.

Then there was Toppo, he raped everybody he was up against until Vegeta. He made a joke of Gohan, 17, and Frieza. The only other that might qualify is Zauyogi overwhelming Yamcha, Tien, and Chiaotzu until Goku saves them and one shots him. I actually hated that because I wanted to see someone who's not a Saiyan fight for more than one panel.

RX-78 said:
So yes, vegeta killing the last remaining saiyan sticks out like a sore thumb and I have to assume that bamco and Toriyama never bring this up simply because its awkward as hell and makes zero sense considering how vegeta screams about muh monkey pride constantly.
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They pride themselves as warriors. Weak Saiyans are trash to them, which is what Nappa became the moment he was paralyzed and why he scoffed at the notion of resurrecting Raditz. He was also just a more sick, savage son of a bitch even by Saiyan standards. Nappa was upset Vegeta killed the Saibaman who was injured, excellent foreshadowing of his own fate.
 
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