Dragon Age: The Veilguard - A woke disaster? Yep!

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Are u woke enough for this game?

  • Hell yeah, I want play it with my wife's son

    Votes: 170 9.4%

  • Nope, I need to suck more girlcock first

    Votes: 393 21.8%

  • Yasss, I identify as an autistic dwarf of color

    Votes: 377 20.9%

  • Nah, I rather play Fallout76

    Votes: 862 47.8%
  • Total voters
    1,803
Jace on ice said:
Also even by Inquisition the dark fantasy stuff was starting to be abandoned in favor of a more silly light hearted tone and the Gray Wardens are extremists who would genocide an entire population or utilize blood magic if it meant stopping the Blight.
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The Wardens have always been willing to do extreme things to stop the Blight though? They are just framed as antagonists because the PC isn't a grey warden.

Prophetic Spirit said:
If "best" is basically put Loghain like a puppet when in Origins clearly he done everything by a good but bad executed reason...
Nah, just let the entire Thedas to die. Better ending than the other.
Morrigan & Isabella were butchered in-character. No signs of Leliana.
Game can suck my dick until i die.
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Well tbh, the game endings come down to how you prefer to see Solas lose.
 
Jace on ice said:
You also can't redeem some of the DLC if you own the Ultimate Edition because it was linked to the BSN and Bioware nuked it.
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Is it just me, or do BioWare games tend to age unusually poorly at the tech level? DAO has all kinds of issues, before the LE dropped Mass Effect was having problems with some of its DLC not agreeing with newer graphics cards, and it's a crapshoot whether KOTOR will work at all.

Meanwhile I can fire up Civilization IV and it runs flawlessly.
 
Mola Ram said:
Is it just me, or do BioWare games tend to age unusually poorly at the tech level? DAO has all kinds of issues, before the LE dropped Mass Effect was having problems with some of its DLC not agreeing with newer graphics cards, and it's a crapshoot whether KOTOR will work at all.

Meanwhile I can fire up Civilization IV and it runs flawlessly.
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I had to look it up but DAO was made on something called the Eclipse engine which was apparent notorious for being a huge piece of shit, it was abandoned after DAII in favor of Unreal.
 
Mola Ram said:
Is it just me, or do BioWare games tend to age unusually poorly at the tech level? DAO has all kinds of issues, before the LE dropped Mass Effect was having problems with some of its DLC not agreeing with newer graphics cards, and it's a crapshoot whether KOTOR will work at all.

Meanwhile I can fire up Civilization IV and it runs flawlessly.
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The time when they were using the Aurora Engine seemed alright. (NWN, NWN2, The Witcher.) If you thought TW1 looked similar to how KOTOR was, it wasn't just coincidental; they were running off the same engine.
 
Mola Ram said:
Is it just me, or do BioWare games tend to age unusually poorly at the tech level? DAO has all kinds of issues, before the LE dropped Mass Effect was having problems with some of its DLC not agreeing with newer graphics cards, and it's a crapshoot whether KOTOR will work at all.

Meanwhile I can fire up Civilization IV and it runs flawlessly.
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There was a problem with AMD CPUs (not even the GPU) that turned characters into black blocky Minecraft characters.

 
Jace on ice said:
You also can't redeem some of the DLC if you own the Ultimate Edition because it was linked to the BSN and Bioware nuked it.
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I don't think I had that issue with the GOG version. You can still grab any DLC that might be missing directly from EA: https://help.ea.com/en/help/faq/dlc-for-classic-games/#dragonage (but gog has it all, afair). Dumbasses at EA can't even spell the name of their game right. Add the fan fixes to make it definitive.
Also check the PCGW: https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Dragon_Age:_Origins
For GOG:
Only the rushed CPU affinity patch from November was kinda bad but they pulled it and fixed it in December. I highly recommend Dain's Fixes and Qwinn's Ultimate Dragon Age: Origins Fixpack.
For Steam:
DLC sometimes might fail to install: https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Dragon_Age:_Origins#Enable_DLC_on_the_Steam_version
 
I still cannot get over the fact people still discuss Anders and the Mage-templar conflict. Gaider hit gold with that-intentionally or not, given the topic's staying power.

To clarify, while Anders is an immensely disreputable person-the way he is written in DA2 is absolutely BioWare at its best.

There's a pathos to the man I do admire-the literal "wrestling with a demon", the merging of this self sacrificial devotion and a petty man's ego, the clear queer/sexual allegories(Anders is up against the christian coded chantry and templars), the fact he is such a nasty and ultimately cowardly bastard(the way he speaks to Fenris and Merrill are just not forgivable), the glib humor, the VA sells it all.

Which is why the character resonates so much on Tumblr in particular, again I dislike Anders the person-but as he is written in DA2, he is memorable for a damned good reason.

One of DA2's themes is people stay the course on their paths-even if it leads to destruction.

Anders-cannot back away, (if really pressured Justice will take over and force the matter),
The Arishok-has to recover the tome, and deal with Kirkwall's dysfunction
Meredith-she was always going to react with the harshness, paranoia and severity that defines her,
Elthina-doing nothing is still doing something
Merrill-she has to make her deal with Audacity even if her clan falls

While DA2 has very limited environmental variety, and Act 3 is undercooked, and the lack of the Exalted March DLC really shows-I stand by my contention upon replay that is is the best written DA game.

(There's a codex entry you find in Act 1-where some nobles remark the Amell family is cursed to misfortune, after Leandra runs off with Malcolm, and in the end that's the same with Hawke).

Few BioWare games really sell the idea of Tragedy-the idea that disaster and calamity follows inevitably from the inherent flaws, motivations and contexts of a story's protagonists, but DA2 does.

Anders in particular stands out at every point he could have stopped. But his nature(and that of his spirit) could lead him no other way.

Again I don't particularly like Anders but he really is well written.
 
Michael Wade said:
Shit Id play suicide squad before I played this.
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Suicide Squad seems like a good kind of game to play while I catch up on MATI episodes so I will eventually play it.

I don't think I'll even spin up Veilguard out of curiosity because even if the gameplay is fine I know I'll still need to deal with the awful writing. Maybe if the trophy list is easy...
 
DavidS877 said:
I got it for 100% off, I still paid too much.
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Honestly I feel Bioware should be paying US to pirate it. They need to inflate player numbers more than anyone needs to play it.

The fact Bioware is going to somehow survive this bomb astounds the mind and needs to be studied. Seriously, who at Bioware has blackmail on an EA Executive, I refuse to believe ESG bucks can fund this many failures.
 
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