Dragon Age: The Veilguard - A woke disaster? Yep!

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Are u woke enough for this game?

  • Hell yeah, I want play it with my wife's son

    Votes: 170 9.4%

  • Nope, I need to suck more girlcock first

    Votes: 393 21.8%

  • Yasss, I identify as an autistic dwarf of color

    Votes: 377 20.9%

  • Nah, I rather play Fallout76

    Votes: 862 47.8%
  • Total voters
    1,803
IcedBacon said:
I think with the Origins telemetry data they saw like:

70% human
28% elf
2% dwarf

They hated making content people weren't going to see. That's one of the main reasons DA2 was restricted to human. DA2 was the original "reboot", and the overarching narrative was going to continue with Hawke.

I think it just comes down to laziness, and Bioware not wanting to spend resources on unique content 90% will never see.
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That's funny because when I got Origins back around release I played dwarf noble twice lol, the dwarf backgrounds were by far the most interesting imo
 
The Blue Morpho said:
That's funny because when I got Origins back around release I played dwarf noble twice lol, the dwarf backgrounds were by far the most interesting imo
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I think any background is interesting, much more than DA: I and their mentions of your background.
The telemetry about elfs was because of being mages, it's much less with dalish & city elf backgrounds.
 
IcedBacon said:
I never really understood the love for DA:I
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I don't think anyone really loves the game, except for women who play it as a dating sim. Most people were just glad it wasn't a rushed mess like DA2.
Scarlett Johansson said:
They knew what they were doing when you and Alistair wake up naked in prison. Especially since it leads to one of the funniest moments in the game where your party infiltrates the jail. What makes it work is that there's so many combinations that work.
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Oh man, I slapped so many mods onto DAO I actually broke that part of the game, so I always had to break out myself. Which is a shame, because your companions trying to get in is probably the most hilarious part.
Divine right to rule said:
Really? Then he wrote some of the best parts of ME2 and 3.
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That's why I was extra disappointed that he went off the deep end so hard. Also, if memory serves right, he even low-key defended fans who were upset about the ending.
 
How retarded do they have to be to release the game October 31st. It’s possibly one of the top 3 dates on the calendar to not have a release. Totally retarded beyond words.
 
Have to say this games biggest strength is how dull it is. Keep checking out playthroughs looking for things to goof on but get too bored and check out before anything retarded happens.
 
The elf background was bullshit. You can't be king or queen and if you're a woman Alistair won't marry you but says you can be his side piece lol
 
Xev said:
The elf background was bullshit. You can't be king or queen and if you're a woman Alistair won't marry you but says you can be his side piece lol
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Knife ears don't deserve happiness, they're just gypsies. Go back to your ghetto or to your gypsy caravan, and let better races rule.
 
Golden Boy said:
How retarded do they have to be to release the game October 31st. It’s possibly one of the top 3 dates on the calendar to not have a release. Totally retarded beyond words.
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I mean, it’s also a built in excuse for if launch day was a catastrophic bomb not seen since… a few months ago when we all got spoiled by Concord bombing.

Considering that EA didn’t even shell out for DRM, I’m pretty sure they had no hope in this one anyway - if they did, I imagine they’d delay the launch another month. Not for quality reasons - there’s only so much you can polish a turd after all - but to try and cash in on Holiday Sales before word of mouth does more damage.
 
Apologies in advance for the LOTR sperg, but I'm reading it right now (and anyone that hasn't is basically hate criming humanity) and I'm not saying that every piece of fantasy should ape the worldbuilding in LOTR but... goddamn they should at least TRY. Something that's struck me when I hold it up against failguard and most modern RPG's is the vastness of the world and the speed that information travels. Only really well traveled or nearby folk know the shire even exists. Under the growing shadow in the east everyone is frightened. Nobody knows wtf is going on in the south and the north is even scarier. The badasses that go those places to keep an eye on things are mostly pariahs. The path the fellowship travels is long and occasionally very rough. Getting lost usually means encountering places that have not been touched or seen by mortals for in some cases hundreds of years. Key places in the story are in some cases so secret like Lorien that only a few elves in Rivendell know how to get there and most people in Middle Earth have no clue it exists. In Rivendell, Boromir happens by as a representative of Gondor because he was seeking guidaince on a recurring verse in a dream. When he asks for the ring his desperation really comes through and he is actually quite convincing, especially because nobody else at the council would probably know the kind of shit he's seen. The hobbits are fish out of water but they aren't developmentally challenged children like they are in the PJ films. They are a bit goofy but still hardy and they are always faithful to each other. Frodo is witty and brave and Sam is an anomaly in that he is enraptured by learning about the history of other races in Middle Earth, particularly elves. You have to learn all these things gradually, though. There is no information superhighway and the people and creatures of Middle Earth all have their own motivations. Since races are so spread out and isolated grudges can be held for hundreds of years. Legendary characters leave to found colonies and get rich and "Oops, we haven't heard from Balin in like, a really long time. Not good!". Conversely, Gwaihir only rescues Gandalf because he helped him a very long time ago and was only at Orthanc in the first place to deliver news, not spring a prisoner. In spite of how bleak everything is and how hopeless the mission is, there is still so much joy in these books, often through singing, which is where the reader learns about the world and the stories that are near universally known.

Bioware RPG's are kind of already the Ur-examples of an RPG that technically shuttles you around and pays lip service to the illusion of vast distances and culture shock even though you are basically just in small corridors and arenas the entire time while still passing as an RPG. The zoomer writing is cringeworthy enough but it's worse that it's treated as if every person in Thedas would even know what the fuck someone was talking about when they say "So I'm non-binary", much less have an opinion on it, MUCH less that opinion be generally positive with the occasional "oopsie sorry for misgendering you". Even if you were to like this stupid cartoonish version of Thedas where everyone is an MCU character with one minor character flaw and a million one liners, it's impossible to believe it as a space because everything that has to do with the plot orbits around your party and there is nothing to actually learn about the world. Instead of joyful songs juxtaposed with crushing setbacks we get dinner table conversations about gender roles. Instead of companions telling us anything consequential about where they come from or any information that could help with the plot, the game just barfs clearly marked main plotline missions at us while your characters poke you to fix their petty 21st century identity issues. Is it unfair to hold the worldbuilding in this turd up to one of the most influential works of fiction of the last century? Yeah, absolutely. But it serves a really good point, and that point is, read LOTR for Godssake.
 
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Sinner's Sandwich said:
Is that the reason the game was allowed to be trannyfied so much? Because EA wants to cater specifically to the alphabet menace?
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It's one big reason, I think. The LGBT and the fujos.
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IcedBacon said:
I think with the Origins telemetry data they saw like:

70% human
28% elf
2% dwarf

They hated making content people weren't going to see. That's one of the main reasons DA2 was restricted to human. DA2 was the original "reboot", and the overarching narrative was going to continue with Hawke.

I think it just comes down to laziness, and Bioware not wanting to spend resources on unique content 90% will never see.
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only 2% dwarf? that's crazy, the dwarf origins were the best ones. people missed out.
 
So, is all of Southern Thedas just gone, now? And presumably all the characters we cared about with it?

Lovely. Total Bioware Death.

People were saying Joker 2 was a 'spite movie', is this a thing? Because I think Veilguard might be a spite game.

"Stop bothering us with characters we didn't write, all the people who wrote them aren't here, I want to write my own self-inserts and do my own thing, they're all dead, OK? Everyone is dead, now, fuck off."

I hate you, Patrick Weekes. I hope you die horribly.
 
Is there any significance to the name "Rook"? Shepard, Ryder, Hawke, Warden, Inquisitor, etc. all have obvious meanings as in-universe or symbolic roles. Aside from the chess piece, rook is also an archaic verb meaning to steal or swindle. There's no clear personality or weight carried to the name. Did they just pick it out a list?
 
A Sentient Cloud said:
Is there any significance to the name "Rook"? Shepard, Ryder, Hawke, Warden, Inquisitor, etc. all have obvious meanings as in-universe or symbolic roles. Aside from the chess piece, rook is also an archaic verb meaning to steal or swindle. There's no clear personality or weight carried to the name. Did they just pick it out a list?
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I assumed it was short for "Rookie," but I've seen no evidence of that. Varric and his stupid fucking nicknames we're supposed to think are clever strike again.
 
A Sentient Cloud said:
Is there any significance to the name "Rook"? Shepard, Ryder, Hawke, Warden, Inquisitor, etc. all have obvious meanings as in-universe or symbolic roles. Aside from the chess piece, rook is also an archaic verb meaning to steal or swindle. There's no clear personality or weight carried to the name. Did they just pick it out a list?
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bioware hasn't been good with naming shit in a while, they can't even name themselves something not retarded aka Trick
 
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