🐮 Lolcow Doug Jackson / SV Seeker - Boomer hubris personified, an incompetent lunatic's dreams slowly crumbling to dust because of his own poor decisions.

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I’m excited to see him get to the Mississippi. It will be fun watching him dodge the tankers in Baton Rouge.
For those not aware Baton Rouge is roughly 135 mi up the Mississippi River however the channel has been dredged deep enough that large oceangoing freighters are allowed that far up the river.

This is a bunch of tankers waiting for their turn at the refinery in Baton Rouge.
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I really hope he gets a pilot for the trip down the Mississippi River. The currents are no joke and can be in excess of 7 knots. I doubt he will has a set of charts even though NOAA offers them for free.
 
TurdFondler said:
Do you think Doug will ever be able to perform an ocean crossing? Or is the Seeker going to be a less seaworthy vessel than the Kon Tiki raft?
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The hilarious thing about the Kon Tiki is it was built to prove that amerindian peoples could have settled polynesia, given the technology available to them at the time but the wealth of genetic evidence available today shows conclusively that polynesia was settled from the west. In the end Thor Heyerdahl just proved that when limited to primitive technology, the white man will still style upon the natives every day of the week.
 
Fastest Hand In The East said:
Am I the only one getting the Groverhaus vibe from readin this? Same energy.
Also what is this with men and boats. Im a man and I dont get it. My father took a loan to buy 12 000$ boat with an engine despite the whole family asking him to settle on a smaller boat so he wont need to borrow money. At least he had a common sense to buy a factory made metal boat.
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I had to explain this whole bullshit to an old SA faggot and I went "Think 'Groverbote' and you've got it".
 
TurdFondler said:
Both Doug and Grover also share an IT background and suffer from Dunning Kreuger effect. Doug's not a dumb guy but you're not just going to become a marine engineer by sheer will.
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Pfft, that's where you're wrong kiddo. You're just like all those other office drones who don't appreciate what a real man can do when he sets his mind to- (hair lights on fire, boat lists dangerously to port, a kindergarten class that was visiting for a field trip gets eaten by a shark, another breaker pops because it's dangerously underrated for the load) -fixing things. That's the fun of this project, fixing things! Okay, anyone know which one of these hoses is for the fire suppression system? It's my own design and I guess it has a few more kinks to work out.


Doug is a treasure. Mostly because I'm several states away from his adventures.
 
Penrowe said:
We're talking entirely different time scales but there's also the fact the less than ideal design decisions of Groverhaus would at worst be an inconvenience/eyesore. As an example, the criticism of the Groverhaus stairs over there being a chest height window at the landing is a world apart from storing propane in an enclosed space along a running engine and a machine shop with zero safety devices/alarms installed.

Groverhaus was built to be a home and fills that role, the only thing in question is how well. The Seether was built to be a sail boat and a research vessel but is guaranteed to sink if it encounters waves and will only ever be researched by the NTSB.
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Isn't Groverhaus often summed up with the phrase "load-bearing drywall"? And the siding caught fire during a barbecue? Admittedly it was technically possible to live in Groverhaus, if inadvisable, while Doug's boat can never be taken out to sea, but neither one is safe.
 
The Littlest Shitlord said:
Isn't Groverhaus often summed up with the phrase "load-bearing drywall"? And the siding caught fire during a barbecue? Admittedly it was technically possible to live in Groverhaus, if inadvisable, while Doug's boat can never be taken out to sea, but neither one is safe.
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I think it was some vinyl siding that got singed/warped, a barbecue can just be moved though unlike a hundred yards of porous single pass welds below the waterline. That's the thing about Grover too isn't it, he made some real dumb decisions but fortunately none of them painted him into a corner like pouring a slab on an unprepared grade or using screws in place of lag bolts.

My favorite was the insulated stairs.

Oh and the load bearing drywall, wasn't that just a picture of a temporary partition that people ran with to take the piss? I get that Grover himself was a cunt (all goons are) but complaints over things like staggered garage ports or an entrance next to the garage are just nonsensical. Even if Grover himself wasn't planning on staying in the house it would've been a good idea because that style of architecture is really popular and likely contributed to a higher appraisal. The only actual safety related concern I'd have would be the wiring and the roof which really ought to be better supported since they have snow where he lives — if memory serves.
 
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Penrowe said:
I think it was some vinyl siding that got singed/warped, a barbecue can just be moved though unlike a hundred yards of porous single pass welds below the waterline. That's the thing about Grover too isn't it, he made some real dumb decisions but fortunately none of them painted him into a corner like pouring a slab on an unprepared grade or using screws in place of lag bolts.

My favorite was the insulated stairs.

Oh and the load bearing drywall, wasn't that just a picture of a temporary partition that people ran with to take the piss? I get that Grover himself was a cunt (all goons are) but complaints over things like staggered garage ports or an entrance next to the garage are just nonsensical. Even if Grover himself wasn't planning on staying in the house it would've been a good idea because that style of architecture is really popular and likely contributed to a higher appraisal. The only actual safety related concern I'd have would be the wiring and the roof which really ought to be better supported since they have snow where he lives — if memory serves.
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Groverhaus was absolutely 100% unsafe, particularly its wiring. He had nearly 30 electrical outlets in the kitchen alone, because he didn't want to wire a separate lighting circuit and had all the light fittings each in its own outlet, behind wooden cupboards and surrounded by other flammable materials. The building inspectors refused to pass any of his wiring (and many other things) so he took the inspector's exam himself, passed, and then certified his own work.

Doug has him beat though. At least you could summarise everything wrong with Groverhaus in a couple of paragraphs, and only a minority of its issues were safety-related. Doug's monstrosity would require a small novel. Groverhaus was at risk of catching fire, but it was not at risk of exploding, sinking, whizzing out of control down the Mississippi and crashing into an oil tanker, decapitating its crew or rolling over onto its roof in a light breeze.
 
Groverhaus is still standing and lived in (presumably by grover) to this day. The only thing that will be living in SV Seether in a decades time is fish.
 
There was some speculation as to why the Seether averaged 3mph down to Kerr. Now that the dinghy's brand new Yamaha engine has broken down (no oil) we have our answer: it was towed.
 
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Penrowe said:
There was some speculation as to why the Seether averaged 3mph down to Kerr. Now that the dinghy's brand new Yamaha engine has broken down (no oil) we have our answer: it was towed.
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Wait he used that dinghy to tow the 80ft collection of scrap iron 40 mi? Yeah that would ruin any outboard.

Towboats/tugboats are basically floating engines. There is a reason for this.
 
TurdFondler said:
Both Doug and Grover also share an IT background and suffer from Dunning Kreuger effect. Doug's not a dumb guy but you're not just going to become a marine engineer by sheer will.
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There's a surprising amount do it yer selfers bring to the table but it's something that has to be tempered with by the Booker. Bookers see a 90 degree turns worth of pressure loss and call the experiment a failure. Selfers look up the pressure tolerance of the PH probe and jack the pressure up a few more feet worth. But now the pump is leaking and it's gonna short out the heater. Booker calls the experiment a failure. Selfer slaps some ceramic tape over the leak so it clots itself up with the material starts frying.. Now the heat tape won't fit, but the selfer sews it on with the tricks he learned sewing kevlar in 'nam. Selfer remarks had the built the reactor out of PVC pipes like he said, none of this would have been a problem. Booker smokes a cigarrete and cranks down the reactor pressure by about 20%.

These guys really just need to have a buddy who really knows their shit. In all this time they could have found one. I'm sure he could have even gotten a relevant job, but somehow the idea of having a dream and indirectly working towards it never went hand in hand.
 
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The funny thing is that the project, the boat, and the machine shop are projected as being there in order to be self-sufficient. Most of us can rebuild a motor in our garage or even in the yard, and fix most major failures with a few simple tools, maybe a drill press and a lathe. He can't. He has all this equipment all these tools and he supposedly going to fix things for other people, but right after killing the Yamaha outboard, the first thing he needs to do is get it to a qualified repair person.
It puts the lie to the whole traveling workshop philosophy. They haven't been able to fix anything. They can't fix this. And I doubt it's a warranty issue because clearly running a motor without oil at start is not a warranty failure. So they're probably taking it to an outboard motor repair shop. And they don't see the irony in that.
One more thing: a few years ago when he tried to fix a working outboard engine for use on a tender, he ran vinegar through it for hours and destroyed it. That was a sign that he should never try to fix an outboard motor, and here that lesson is being lived out. He'll probably have to spend thousands of dollars to have someone else fix a motor that he destroyed, again, because he and the machine shop can't I fix it.
 
Penrowe said:
One more thing: a few years ago when he tried to fix a working outboard engine for use on a tender, he ran vinegar through it for hours and destroyed it.
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What was he hoping to achieve? If the coolant passages were dirty vinegar wouldn't do shit.
 
As much as I hate to send traffic his way, you really need to watch the video.
It is peak Doug.
There is a link earlier in the thread.

What happened to the diesel-powered tender?
They spent months dicking around on it .

I wonder if Doug forgot that 4 stroke out boards need oil in the crankcase unlike 2 stokes that get the oil in the fuel?
Assuming the engine he killed was a 4 stroke.
Then again it was probably designed to move a bass boat, 2 fishermen and a couple of loaded coolers, not tow 70 tons of ill shaped steel.
 
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