Opinion Does the Talmud Teach That Jesus is Burning in Hell?

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By Michael Brown

Is it true that the Talmud teaches that Jesus is burning in excrement in hell? That he was a sorcerer and a deceiver? That his mother, Mary, conceived him in adultery? If so, this would be quite ugly, and it would be perfectly understandable why Christians would be grieved and even outraged. But is it true?

There’s actually a serious debate about whether the Talmud mentions the Jesus of the New Testament at all. (There’s also debate about whether it ever mentions Mary.)

There are some traditional Jews who claim that the Talmud never speaks about Jesus. There are Jewish scholars who believe there are some definitive, negative references, while questioning some of the other references. And there are critics of Judaism who find abundant, blasphemous references to Jesus (and his followers) in the Talmud and rabbinic literature.

Who’s right?

Before we answer that question, allow me to give you some perspective.


What is the Talmud?​


The Talmud is not a book but a collection of books — a massive collection. In standard editions, it is more than 6,200 pages, and it is filled with legal discussion and debate, digging into every possible aspect of Jewish law. (If you find the legal parts of the Old Testament hard to understand, you’ll find the Talmud impossible to understand.)

And in the midst of lengthy legal discussions and debates, you’ll find fascinating interpretations of Scripture, edifying stories, and all kinds of interesting (and even bizarre) folklore and traditions. As for Jesus, if he is mentioned, it is only in the most peripheral way, since the focus is on Jewish law and practice.

You might say, “I don’t care how peripheral the references to Jesus might be. If they’re anything like what I’m being told, then the Talmud is evil.” You’re certainly entitled to that opinion, and I myself have written a detailed book, explaining why I do not follow the Talmud.

But what I want to make clear is that the Talmud does not focus on Jesus. Its purpose is not to attack Jesus. And if — I repeat, if — it mentions him by name, even in terrible ways, it represents less than .001 percent of the material in the Talmud.

There’s something else, though, that we need to remember. Most religious traditions say things that are very offensive to people of other religions.


Is Muhammad in Hell?​


For example, I recently asked on Twitter, “As a Christian, if you believe Muhammad is a false prophet, does that mean he is in hell?” The three choices were: 1) yes, in hell; 2) not in hell; and 3) not for me to say.

Remarkably, 76 percent said that Muhammad was in hell while only 1 percent said he was not. (The other 23 percent responded with, “not for me to say.”) Do you know how offensive that is to Muslims? Even to intimate such a thing in a religious Muslim country could mean instant death.

That’s how much he is revered as the perfect man and the seal of the prophets in Islam. Yet, for many Christians, it’s a no-brainer: “Of course he’s in hell.”

Those same Christians will also say that the greatest rabbis in Jewish history, men revered for their devotion to God and their piety and their holiness, were also in hell, since they didn’t believe in Jesus. And they would say this without batting an eyelash. “Jesus is the only way to heaven, and without him, we’re lost.”


Jewish Religious Leaders​


They would feel the same way about contemporary rabbis, like an ultra-Orthodox leader who died in 2017 at the age of 104, living for decades in poverty while giving away countless thousands of dollars to needy Jews. To see the sacrificial way he lived is shocking.

But many Christians would say at once, “His good works could not save him. He is lost and burning in hell right now.”

When I first came to faith in Jesus at the age of 16, the local rabbi befriended me, and we spent many hours talking together. One day he expressed how hurt he was when he read Matthew 23, where Jesus pronounced 7 woes on the Jewish religious leaders. He called them hypocrites, blind guides, vipers, and children of hell.

The rabbi said to me, “These men are my heroes. They were spiritual giants. How could Jesus say such ugly things about them?”

Obviously, as a follower of Jesus, I trust the Lord’s judgment. And that means I believe his assessment of these men to be accurate.

He saw an inner corruption in their lives even though they looked good on the outside. At the same time, he was not indicting all the Jewish leaders of his day, nor was he indicting all Jewish leaders throughout history. But I can certainly understand why my friend was offended.


Christian ‘Hatred of Jews’​


Ironically, many Jewish scholars believe that there are negative references to Jesus in the Talmud but that they are a direct response to Christian hatred of Jews.

Some believe that the Talmudic statements are responses to the New Testament’s negative portrayal of their leaders. Others point to early Christian writings which demonize Jews, or to persecution of the Jews under Constantine and his successors.

Whatever the case, before we condemn the Talmud for its hateful, blasphemous statements about Jesus, let’s understand how our beliefs can sound to others. As to the negative statements in the Talmud about Jesus and Mary, some probably do exist, but they are few and far between and quite limited in scope.

Naturally, I find the statements deplorable, ugly, and inexcusable (if, to repeat, they truly refer to them). And I hate the fact that traditional Jews believe these libels about our Messiah. But I understand that this is not what the Talmud is about, and I recognize how my own beliefs can sound very offensive to people of other faiths.

I also remember Peter’s words when preaching to a Jewish crowd shortly after the crucifixion: “And now, brothers, I know that you acted in ignorance, as did also your rulers” (Acts 3:17). Then, having told them the truth, he called them to repent and receive mercy. And I remember the words of Jesus himself as he was being crucified, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do” (Luke 23:34).
 
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Got news for you. If you take ANY religious book as anything more than a piece of literature you're just fooling yourself.

God didn't write the Bible, the Koran, the Talmud, the Book of Moroni, or any of the other supposed guides to life. People did, and they are fallible.

Seek and find your own truth. Trust your gut. You can be a good person, a great person, without dealing with man-made constructs and constraints standing between you and God.
 
No, there was something about boiling in excrement. Jews have a unique hatred for Christians you see, which borders on self-harm in many cases.
 
Got news for you. If you take ANY religious book as anything more than a piece of literature you're just fooling yourself.

God didn't write the Bible, the Koran, the Talmud, the Book of Moroni, or any of the other supposed guides to life. People did, and they are fallible.

Seek and find your own truth. Trust your gut. You can be a good person, a great person, without dealing with man-made constructs and constraints standing between you and God.
On one hand you are very correct: God doesn't write, Jesus didn't write, but: technically the Holy Spirit very much can write! Christian reverence for scripture as the Logos; the Word of God, is inspired by Paul's saying from 2 Timothy: "All scripture is given by inspiration from God."
Just my little Bible-thumping session 👌
 
On one hand you are very correct: God doesn't write, Jesus didn't write, but: technically the Holy Spirit very much can write! Christian reverence for scripture as the Logos; the Word of God, is inspired by Paul's saying from 2 Timothy: "All scripture is given by inspiration from God."
Just my little Bible-thumping session 👌
No sweat, whatever works for you. 👍
 
Those same Christians will also say that the greatest rabbis in Jewish history, men revered for their devotion to God and their piety and their holiness, were also in hell, since they didn’t believe in Jesus. And they would say this without batting an eyelash. “Jesus is the only way to heaven, and without him, we’re lost.”
Well, yeah. The OT explicitly says that Abraham was in Hell until Jesus freed him
 
Remarkably, 76 percent said that Muhammad was in hell while only 1 percent said he was not. (The other 23 percent responded with, “not for me to say.”) Do you know how offensive that is to Muslims?
Do you know how offensive raping children, enslaving people, and being a murderous warlord is to God? This jew cannot be serious.
 
Lazarus from the Gospel of Luke, where the rich man burns in Hades
Nahh, come on. That's explicitly a parable. It's not about the afterlife any more than the parable of the sower is about farming.

Well, yeah. The OT explicitly says that Abraham was in Hell until Jesus freed him
Where does it say that? (PROTIP: Sheol is not hell.)
 
There is a talmud line that apparently claims Joshua (AKA Jesus because I see little reason for even Pharisetical Jews to hate Joshua the prophet, that or it's referring to some random Ben Joshua Pharisees hated at the time of its writing) is boiling in feces. Line is real, though I don't know the context.
Nahh, come on. That's explicitly a parable. It's not about the afterlife any more than the parable of the sower is about farming.


Where does it say that? (PROTIP: Sheol is not hell.)
Sheol is just Hades

As far as I'm aware, Gahanna was not revealed as the Lake of Fire until the NT
 
Curious how nowhere in the article is the story in question actually quoted.
Onkelos then went and raised Jesus the Nazarene from the grave through necromancy. Onkelos said to him: Who is most important in that world where you are now? Jesus said to him: The Jewish people. Onkelos asked him: Should I then attach myself to them in this world? Jesus said to him: Their welfare you shall seek, their misfortune you shall not seek, for anyone who touches them is regarded as if he were touching the apple of his eye

Onkelos said to him: What is the punishment of that man, a euphemism for Jesus himself, in the next world? Jesus said to him: He is punished with boiling excrement. As the Master said: Anyone who mocks the words of the Sages will be sentenced to boiling excrement. And this was his sin, as he mocked the words of the Sages. The Gemara comments: Come and see the difference between the sinners of Israel and the prophets of the nations of the world. As Balaam, who was a prophet, wished Israel harm, whereas Jesus the Nazarene, who was a Jewish sinner, sought their well-being.
 
Yes I know it's a parable, but it's the biggest thing that could be pointed to as a Jewish concept to the afterlife, since Badungus Kabungus said that they don't have a concept of hell.
 
Curious how nowhere in the article is the story in question actually quoted.
Note the text only says Yeshu, the translation makes the assumption it's Jesus. Others disagree:

Here we see a story of the famous convert Onkelos who, prior to converting, used black magic to bring up famous villains of history and ask them whether their wickedness saved them in the world to come. In both cases (theres a third case of Onkelos calling up Titus as well) the sinner is being terribly punished in the afterlife while Israel is being rewarded. Presumably, this helped convince Onkelos to convert to Judaism.

As we have explained elsewhere, Yeshu is not Jesus of the New Testament. He is most likely a prominent sectarian of the early first century BCE who deviated from rabbinic tradition and created his own religion combining Hellenistic paganism with Judaism. While Yeshu may be the proto-Jesus some scholars point to as inspiring the early Christians, he is definitely not the man who was crucified in Jerusalem in the year 33 CE.

Interestingly, if someone were to claim that Yeshu in the passage above is Jesus, then Balaam cannot also refer to Jesus because both Balaam and Yeshu are in the passage together. In other words, it is self-contradicting to claim that the passages above about Balaam's m5 being a harlot or dying young refer to Jesus and to claim that the passage above about Yeshu being punished also refers to Jesus. You can't have it both ways.



No, they do. I heard or read once they don't have a concept of heaven, or at least as the Christians think of it. Really makes you think.
We have Gehenna which is a temporary cleansing area where your soul is cleaned of sin in spiritual fire. It lasts up to 12 months and after that you end up in the World to come. That place is very vague and not much is known about it except that you can continue to study Torah there. There's also reincarnation and such.
 
Note the text only says Yeshu, the translation makes the assumption it's Jesus
"Yeshu" absolutely has been used by Jews to refer to Jesus in no uncertain terms (see: "Toldot Yeshu").
So this story from the Talmud is talking about a guy named Jesus, who was a Nazarene, and is accused of "mock[ing] the words of the sages." And you're gonna sit there and cast doubt on whether this is referring to "Jesus of Nazareth?"

And yes. I agree Balaam is most certainly not Jesus. That guy's boiling in semen according to this story.
 
If I recall, reincarnation is primarily spoken of in Kabbalah, it's not really mainstream in Judaism. I am confused as to why there's pretension it is.
 
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