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London Trans+ Pride March 2022

23 January 2023
Serena Smith

There are a lot of stereotypes about Gen Z. We all hate working. We’re brain-dead TikTok addicts. We like to eat Tide pods and chicken stewed in cough syrup. Some are more positive, admittedly: it’s often assumed that we all support social justice issues like the fight for trans rights, the Black Lives Matter movement and climate justice. But is there really any truth in any of these big, sweeping assumptions? Can we really claim to generalise about a demographic that makes up nearly 20 per cent of the UK population?

There is research to suggest that Gen Z genuinely are the most progressive generation. 77 per cent of all young voters went for progressive parties in the 2019 election. Nearly half of young Brits believe systemic racism is a major problem facing the UK. When it comes to trans rights, research from the More in Common think tank found that 62 per cent of Gen Z agreed with the statement “trans men are men, trans women are women”.

This isn’t particularly surprising. “This is a very common pattern for emerging social issues – where it’s not an issue many will have thought about even in the relatively recent past, but the increased profile and focus will increase awareness and understanding over time,” Professor Bobby Duffy, author of Generations: Does When You’re Born Shape Who You Are? tells Dazed. He explains that younger generations are often quicker to embrace changes in social attitudes as they’re more “malleable in their thinking”. As Duffy says, being more receptive to progressive beliefs isn’t really a ‘Gen Z’ thing, though – it’s a ‘young person’ thing. Nowadays, for instance, baby boomers are often perceived as stubborn and regressive (see also: the ‘OK boomer’ meme). But when they were young, they were champions of social justice issues of their time, such as the anti-war movement and sexual liberation.

Of course, it’s erroneous to suggest that every single young person in the 60s and 70s spent their time shagging, protesting and swanning around in bell-sleeve mini-dresses. Equally, it’s a bit of an overblown claim to presume that all Gen Z today are extremely socially liberal and dedicated to fighting for progressive causes. “We tend to stereotype Gen Z as universally ‘woke’,” Duffy says. “But there is much more nuance than we’re led to believe in attitudes.”

Notably, anti-trans sentiments seem particularly common among Gen Z. As aforementioned, while a 62 per cent majority of Gen Z agree that “trans men are men, trans women are women”, that still leaves us with 10 per cent who “don’t know” and 28 per cent who actively disagree – hardly insignificant numbers. Many people might assume that TERFs are almost exclusively middle-class, 50-something white women who post about “trans” on Mumsnet and sycophantically reply to every JK Rowling tweet by saying “Spot on once again, Jo 👏” – and while this demographic does undoubtedly account for a lot of TERFs, it does seem as though there’s a worrying number of younger TERFs too.

While undeniably a minority, transphobic young people are particularly vocal, especially on platforms like Twitter and TikTok where anti-trans sentiments often proliferate within online ‘radfem’ communities. “It’s incredibly easy to get sucked into an alt-right wormhole on social media sites,” Eliott, 22, tells Dazed. “On Twitter you often see young people liking a few radical feminist tweets, and then a few months later they’re a full-blown anti-trans TERF.”

radfem baby terf twitter actually one of the scariest parts of this website cos everyone’s been focused on the old ones while they’re appearing on the timeline more and more every day
— Sock Is A Slur (@leoliveeeeee) October 12, 2022

This can be largely ascribed to the way social media algorithms operate. Generally speaking, algorithms are designed to show people increasingly extreme content, as the more enraged and angry users are, the more engagement spikes – and the more money tech execs make. “The speed at which this happens is even more marked on TikTok because of the nature of the algorithm,” Eliott adds. He’s right: despite TikTok recently banning deadnaming and misgendering trans people, a 2021 report from Media Matters found that TikTok’s recommendation algorithm actually promotes homophobia and anti-trans violence.

It’s not just social media which is engendering transphobia among Gen Z – the press, particularly in the UK, is plagued with anti-trans rhetoric. 23-year-old Ellie recently overheard two students being transphobic while using a public bathroom. “They were saying that we shouldn’t be allowed to use the toilets which align with our gender,” she recalls. “Ironically, when I came out of the cubicle to wash my hands I stood right next to them and they had no idea that the very thing they were complaining about was happening right next to them.”

“It was very clear that they didn’t understand what it meant to be trans,” Ellie continues. “I’m not defending them in any way [...] but they were just talking about an issue that they’ve seen so much in the media and trying to formulate an opinion on it. It’s only natural that they came to such a negative conclusion because of so much of the misinformation, fearmongering, and general toxicity that the UK media has perpetuated over the past few years.” 21-year-old Louis agrees. “I still have a lot of people I went to school with on socials, and it’s so weird because I would genuinely say the majority of them are actually outwardly anti-trans,” he says. “I know people my age who love GB News. It’s so weird – like, that is a news outlet that is made for fucking 50-year-old gammons.”

“On Twitter you often see young people liking a few radical feminist tweets, and then a few months later they’re a full-blown anti-trans TERF” – Eliott

According to analysis by author and trans advocate Shon Faye, in 2020 alone The Times and The Sunday Times published “over 300 articles [about trans issues], almost one a day, and they were all negative”. Elsewhere, transphobes pop up on daytime TV, politicians are asked inflammatory and reductive questions like “can a woman have a penis?”, and columnists refer to the so-called “trans lobby”. It’s also telling that the media treats something as fundamental as trans rights as “up for debate” in the first place. So, it’s not hugely surprising that young people are absorbing transphobic sentiments when they’ve been allowed to proliferate so much in mainstream media.

21-year-old Louis – who lives in Essex – also adds that he suspects anti-trans views are, generally speaking, more prevalent outside of London and in groups of young people who perhaps haven’t encountered more liberal attitudes at university. Research does back this up: a September 2022 survey from the National Centre for Social Research (NatCen) found that a third of Londoners are socially liberal, compared with just 19 per cent of those in urban areas outside the capital. “It would be oversimplifying it to say that these TERF-y sentiments are expected because Southend is a working-class town,” Louis says. “But people are generally scared of change, especially change they don’t understand. So all the hatred comes from a place of the world moving forward, and deep down these people are scared that they’re getting left behind.”

None of this is to say that we aren’t making progress – as aforementioned, attitudes are clearly shifting, with generations becoming increasingly supportive of trans rights over time. Additionally, the fact remains that millennials aren’t becoming more conservative with age – as has been the case for over 100 years – and there’s no huge reason to doubt that Gen Z will follow suit. But that said, we need to do away with the popular conceit that ‘Gen Z will save us’, which glosses over the fact that swathes of young people are being taken in by the unrelenting deluge of anti-trans rhetoric both in the media and on social media. “I think complacency is a far bigger danger to trans people than the actual [anti-trans] radicals themselves,” Eliott says. “Look at the gender recognition bill that was blocked: that would have been voted down if Labour had voted against it, but just 11 Labour MPs voted against it and the rest abstained.” Evidently, while the fight for trans rights is making progress, it’s certainly not a battle won.
 
politicians are asked inflammatory and reductive questions like “can a woman have a penis?
There's a concept called "the celebration parallax" where a statement is considered good or bad depending on who says it. Ie. "Immigration will turn America brown, just watch." Is either true and inspiring or wrong and evil based upon the politics of who is saying it.
This is peak celebration parallax.
The same people who will say "her penis" are suddenly calling it reductive when phrased as a question.
Of course "are transwomen women?" is not reductive, while "can you define woman?" is.

“But people are generally scared of change, especially change they don’t understand. So all the hatred comes from a place of the world moving forward, and deep down these people are scared that they’re getting left behind.”
The invention of the car is the invention of the car crash. Each new technology and idea brings with it new forms of destruction.
As for "getting left behind." It isn't deep down, and it's an acknowledgement that we're destined to be pushed out. He literally used an anti-white slur 3 paragraphs ago with "fucking 50 year old gammon." What are we supposed to think, huh?
 
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Why are they scared of TERFS?
What are the statistics on
A. trannies being murdered by actual women?
B. trannies being murdered for being trannies by TERFS?
I would suspect this number is either zero or as close to as makes no difference. So it’s not physical fear.
The best thing gen Z can do is be exposed to this madness constantly. After a decade of it they will probably be asking Hugo boss for sartorial advice.
 
Just my thinking: some were raised without Internet, some were raised with SomethingAwful favorited, some were raised while watching Newgrounds flashes, some were (often but not always) groomed on Tumblr, some only watched Youtube videos, some even saw their site or app of choice die like Vine or Digg or old Reddit. You can't box in these fucks simply because their equivalent of 'well they grew up with He-Man or whatever' cannot consistently work because while yes televisions were still turned on, the formative years of even siblings can vary wildly simply due to a use of different websites and even those website's contents. Like it or not they're a wildcard of a generation simply because of the sheer volume of information they could have had access to. Hell, the access to early web stuff may've lead some to learn the golden phrase 'lurk moar faggot' and they could be, y'know, hiding their real opinions in case it's not an interview or questionnaire but yet another current year litmus test.

Even just on this site most users have different sections they frequent, some even only lurk because they have nothing to add most of the time. Now apply that with ~15 years worth of people with the whole Internet and several different combinations of parents raising them (This is mostly what I attribute to it actually; having young millennials, gen xers, boomers, silent generation grandparents or any combination thereof from marrying younger/older would lead to different worldviews based on their parenting) you'll see why I grew to hate boxing in and writing off generations of people.
 
Bigtime. And what's the GOP answer? 'We can't win cause they cheat'. That's not an effective or even correct answer. The issue, IMO, is the country is incredibly leftwing now and the Zoomers are the vanguard of it. It's impossible to predict how long or deep it'll go, but without a major change it's not going to change much or within a decade.

Getting rid of the old timer GOP is going to help, but who can tell. This 'we wuz robbed' mentality just doesn't work.
That's what happens when you surrender media and academia to leftists. They raise the new generation of voters.
 
WE no longer have a unified culture. Once again, the Boomers win on that front - they came online just as TV was taking off, and for the next thirty years, dominant culture revolved around what the Boomers were watching and listening to. Gen Xers like me grew up watching Brady Bunch and Gilligan's Island, and had to watch Boomer nostalgia-fests like The Wonder Years. Gen Xers have listened to a lot more Boomer era music than Zoomers have listened to Gen X music. It's a miracle if most Zoomers are familiar with anything made more than five years ago, much less familiarized themselves with pre-1990s media. Old shows and movies are much too slow, boring and problematic for their tik-tok video clip mindset. And now you have the internet and streaming shows, which offer a thousand little niches todays kids can run into. It takes time and effort just to keep up with it all, and it's all pointless because in six months time, it will all be forgotten for the hot new thing. The amount of media and content topics have expanded, but the amount of time that people spend on it is far less than it used to be. A few manchildren may cling to their favorite nerd franchises for years on end, but for Normie, it's just an endless sewer pipe that spews different shit every day.

I don't watch modern TV shows. Not just because I don't have the time, but because I don't want to watch a show steeped in Clown World values featuring soyburger men and perfect, invincible women. Even if I think a show will be up my alley, I'll tune in to see White Man Bad, Brown Man Oppressed, and Wimmen Who Don't Need No Man. I'd rather catch up on the older shows and movies I haven't seen yet, since they take place in a world that I can still understand. I think this is the main reason why this Transcrap has taken over - people have been taught that everything in the past was bad, that the interaction between the sexes was oppressive, and that gays were under-represented by 10,000 percent. This is why everything made today must push social justice and feature negros playing Tudor queens. Leftists are trying to use media to create the diverse world they want to live in. They're using the Trans phenomenon to break up the fundamental building blocks of society and remake it into one in which they can have revenge over every authority figure that told them no.
 
Either GenZ or the Gen after them will rebel so hard it will be GigaTrad life like in the early 90s all over again with the Christian movement.
Pressing X big time on this one. Gen Zyklon was the dumbest meme and will never happen. They keep getting more liberal.

Only hope is that X continues to get more conservative with age, and the less likely trend that the larger Y will as well.
 
Why are they scared of TERFS?
What are the statistics on
A. trannies being murdered by actual women?
B. trannies being murdered for being trannies by TERFS?
I would suspect this number is either zero or as close to as makes no difference. So it’s not physical fear.
The best thing gen Z can do is be exposed to this madness constantly. After a decade of it they will probably be asking Hugo boss for sartorial advice.

In the UK:
A. 0
B. 0

There hasn't been any trannies murdered for years and years.
 
Can they pick a better term than TERF? They aren't all radical Feminist. (Lesbian Separatism, All-men-are-rapists etc)

JK Rowling has sons and Harry Potter was written to get boys into reading. Does that seem misandric to anyone except the most deranged?
 
Stereo types are often based on truth. Like Jews being a bunch of greedy no good rat fucks and niggers being a bunch of low IQ ground dwelling apes that commit crimes and rape all the time. This is all true. So, the stereo types exist. I am sure there is a lot of truth in the stereo types about Zoomers. Just look at fucking TikTok. Yes, Zoomers are also a bunch of broke brains. They don't even know how to use computers. In that way they are like Boomers. They say a lot of cringey shit like straight bussin that slaps no cap and vibing. It's all super fucking cringe inducing. They also seem to listen to a lot of nigger music and act like wiggers. Don't forget the stupid looking Zoomer Chia Pet perm. If anyone here remembers Chia pets.

There probably aren't too many good things you can say about most Millennials either. You could say that about any generation. Millennials were basically just copies of Gen X and Zoomers are just copies of Millennials. With some cringey shit thrown in. Millennials were and still considered lazy. Matter of fact they were known as the lazy generation. Though considering the world they got stuck with you could see why. No jobs declining wages limited opportunities. The fact that none of this has changed means the Zoomers won't be any different. Most of the older Zoomers are still in their early to mid 20's. The youngest are in their mid to late teens.

I think like the Millennials most of them are a bunch of broke brain nihilists that don't give a shit about anything. It's kind of hard to get people to care about stuff when you teach them they shouldn't because it's not "cool". The other side of this sword is they don't give a shit when they do something you don't like. So don't be surprised when the Zoomers don't give a shit about niggers trannies faggots or any other protected group. Remember, you told them caring about stuff wasn't cool.

 
Pressing X big time on this one. Gen Zyklon was the dumbest meme and will never happen. They keep getting more liberal.

Only hope is that X continues to get more conservative with age, and the less likely trend that the larger Y will as well.
Honestly, the "Generation Zyklon" and now the "Generation Alpha" memes are a manifestation of conservatives hoping a massive political reversal will happen without requiring them to do any work. Becoming a church leader and mentoring the young? Getting to know everyone in your neighborhood and developing genuine relationships? Working in a local government position where you can affect how things are run in your community? Conservatives would rather not do any of these things because they require more investment than watching football and howling about whatever liberal craziness Hannity mentioned on his nightly show.
 
Gen Z voting is why the Republicans lost the Senate in 2022 and didn't pick up like 10-15 more House seats. They're very politically active and the majority of them are far-left.
That’s what’s the MSM wants you to believe in order to justify the Democrats’ rigging of elections. The rigged them by using the dead kids who died from fentanyl and heroin overdoses and said they voted democrat. No zoomer actually gives a fuck about politics and don’t give a fuck about democrats, contrary to what the media says.
 
Bigtime. And what's the GOP answer? 'We can't win cause they cheat'. That's not an effective or even correct answer. The issue, IMO, is the country is incredibly leftwing now and the Zoomers are the vanguard of it. It's impossible to predict how long or deep it'll go, but without a major change it's not going to change much or within a decade.

Honestly, the "Generation Zyklon" and now the "Generation Alpha" memes are a manifestation of conservatives hoping a massive political reversal will happen without requiring them to do any work. Becoming a church leader and mentoring the young? Getting to know everyone in your neighborhood and developing genuine relationships? Working in a local government position where you can affect how things are run in your community? Conservatives would rather not do any of these things because they require more investment than watching football and howling about whatever liberal craziness Hannity mentioned on his nightly show.
Democrats literally used the dead names of zoomers who died from overdoses and said they voted blue. I’m telling you Zoomers literally give zero fucks about Democrats and I know because I work with tons of zoomers and they always shit on democrats. The media wants you to believe that they’re leftists because it’s what they want, so they create these push polls and say “oh look zoomers voted blue” despite the fact that these polls are heavily skewed in the left’s favor
 
that's what they want you to believe. Polls have been pushing the whole "gen z will be liberal" meme for years now hoping it becomes true.

I think young people do tend be liberal-- in the classical sense. They want to push against norms, be free to have a good time, and generally root for the underdog. But the modern left is authoritarian, obsessed with control, and delights in torturing heretics. They left any claim to the word "liberal" on the field long ago. They have no particular reason to expect loyalty from the younger generations, apart from early brainwashing-- and they pretty clearly understand that.
 
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