Do you consider Nirvana good?

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I only know that one song, Teen Spirit or whatever it's called.

I like the Weird Al version better, though.

Didn't their frontman troon out and kill himself or something?
 
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Gargamel said:
I only know that one song, Teen Spirit or whatever it's called.

I like the Weird Al version better, though.

Didn't their frontman troon out and kill himself or something?
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I never knew about the troon part, maybe a more informed Kiwi than I can enlighten me. But Kurt Cobain did kill himself, though some say his girlfriend killed him and framed it as suicide.
 
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I don't care how overrated people say it is, Nevermind is a perfectly fine album and In Bloom is a kickass song.
Gargamel said:
Didn't their frontman troon out and kill himself or something?
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No he just regular killed himself and troons think this means he was secretly a tranny or something.
Also the remainder of Nirvana that didn't blow their brains out went on to form Foo Fighters.
 
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The fact that Kurt Cobain held Cheap Trick in such high regard is notable for showing that his bursts of actual craftsmanship were no accident. Sure, he was just as likely to veer off into unlistenable filthy noise like "Moist Vagina"; sure, his deliberately unpleasant vocal delivery was often intolerable. But when he chose to he was capable of writing and sometimes even performing very catchy and even fun "pop songs" in the best classic punk style. ("Paul McCartney said that the Sex Pistols were another band playing Chuck Berry.")

My personal biggest beef with the band was the fact that they were the spearhead that harpooned most of the fun out of what was then called alternative music. It seemed like pre-Nirvana, we had Jane's Addiction (who admittedly mostly contributed to their own destruction with infighting and heroin addiction), whereas post-Nirvana the fun just got sucked out of everything and the only good musicians to be found were mostly putting out stuff that made you feel like you should be going down, not across.
 
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Geddy Lee's Fee and See said:
Soundgarden and Alice in Chains were definitely better bands and more representative of what grunge was, but I liked "Come As You Are".
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Alice in Chains is a far better band for sure, one of my absolute favorites. It definitely helps that Layne Staley was able to capture that grumbly, jaded grunge style of singing, while still being intelligible, unlike Kobain.
 
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I'd describe them as good but not great. Bleach had some bangers. So did Nevermind.
Ironically once Kurt got the mainstream acclaim and attention he wanted to feed his ego his actual music turned to shit. In Utero is godawful.
He wasn't a bad curator of music tastes though, if it hadn't been for Nirvana I never would've discovered the Melvins or Husker Du.
 
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Crocodylus Acutus said:
Alice in Chains is a far better band for sure, one of my absolute favorites. It definitely helps that Layne Staley was able to capture that grumbly, jaded grunge style of singing, while still being intelligible, unlike Kobain.
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I don't really feel like it's fair to compare the two. Despite them both being considered grunge they're vastly different bands musically. To me that'd be like comparing Anthrax to The Pixies.
 
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I liked the Unplugged album well enough, but that's about it. Kurt was a huge faggot, though. I can see him pulling a, "what an artist dies in me," like Nero.
 
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Tablet County said:
I don't really feel like it's fair to compare the two. Despite them both being considered grunge they're vastly different bands musically. To me that'd be like comparing Anthrax to The Pixies.
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Nirvana's kind of the weird outlier for grunge, on account of how punk-y they were.
The rest of the scene either edged into or fully embraced their metal roots. Soundgarden and Alice in Chains were essentially hair metal acts that got a bit self-conscious about the fashion. There was an entire underbelly of shamefully unrecognized bands in that scene composed of dudes who listened to way too much Black Sabbath at a formative age.
I'm not surprised Kurt was such a fan of the Minnesota scene in the 1980's or that he hired a dude from NoVa to replace Chad Channing.
 
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Geddy Lee's Fee and See said:
Alice in Chains
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Yeah Alice in chains would totally of still survived even without Nirvana being around. Man in the box was absolutely that great.
Gargamel said:
Didn't their frontman troon out and kill himself or something?
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he killed himself, he took a lot of drugs and married Courtney love he might as well of killed himself after Nevermind (teen spirit album)
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I still appreciate a lot of nirvana, I kind feel though a lot of it was a you had to be there when it came to experience. best albums are fecal matters and Bleach in my opinion but I still love Nevermind and In urtero. and I got to learn about meat puppets, MDC, Pixies, mudhoney and the raincoats.
 
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