Do you believe in souls? - Most people make me feel empty

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PaleTay

PaleTay

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Most people seem like mindless and heartless NPCs, but every once in a while I meet someone who is creative, considerate, and extremely charismatic and just seems to have it, these people are drawn to me. I find animals and people are drawn to me with little effort in general but most seem to lack something intangible.

So do you believe in souls?
 
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I do. I've seen first hand a plant grow large after being sick in my Genocide class in my Senior year. Mom stated "It missed her."
And I've sadly seen an angelfish die before my eyes after struggling to live
I know animism is in many countries historically and I might try to read up on that.
 
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Not in like a traditional bible type way, but in a more abstract sense, sure.

Again soul or spirit aren't actual metaphysical concepts, they're just convenient ways to describe a suite of aspects of human existence (emotional connectedness/empathy, wisdom, wholesome stuff like that), and the strength of someone's relationship to the universe and their place in it.

There are weirdos who claim the only way to obtain spiritual fulfillment is to say "Christ is king" a lot and that if you don't adhere to some ridiculous ersatz version of the trad lifestyle that it means you can't possibly be satisfied on a deeper level or even have any reason to live, those people are idiots. You don't have to be traditionally religious to believe in the idea of the human spirit.
 
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Tricky question I would say the "soul" would be a living things conscious and unconscious mind among other things but then a thought popping into my head recently is the unfortunate question of "if you have brain damage or something similar is it really you that walks away from it?" I honestly don't know maybe I'm not smart enough to think it through but it eats at me from time to time
 
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Yes. I also believe each of us have some kind of purpose we're supposed to fulfill in life. A reason for being alive and part of the reason why there's so many listless and depressed people out there is because they're not living up to their purpose for existing.
 
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I think it is a silly conclusion to come to but it makes sense that people would want stuff like that to exist. Same with gods and devils and ghosties and spookles and miracles and karma and magic. almost certainly make-believe gobbeldygook to make people feel better about themselves as there is just as much evidence that we are all the dreams of a sentient tub of peanut butter. In fact the odds of our little human ideas being the way it is are probably much, much lower than something absolutely ridiculous in comparison. it would be cool if there was some higher purpose but I don't know how anyone could settle on that conclusion and be comfortable with it. We simply dont know (but probably not)
 
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I don't know if it's ghosts/ spirits/ souls but there's something beyond just us normal people, a different plane besides this one? I'm not saying I see it daily/often or in nature/every day animals, I'm saying sometimes the universe/ higher power listens and is like 'sure here you go buddy'. If it matters I was raised Christian but don't believe in the Bible being real (Adam and Eve weren't 'the first humans'/'Noah's flood is real and it made the Grand Canyon'/ect). I believe in something, and I'm not sure what anymore. But something.
 
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No.

Most people think that having a soul is what endows man with consciousness, self-awareness, sapience, etc... but I don't believe that's true. It was just an evolutionary advantage. Self-awareness/sapience is just a quirk of brain meat. Was self-awareness/sapience something towards which evolution brought us? Was it a spontaneous occurrence that was secondary to the arrangement of other processes of survival and thus a random happenstance? or possibly a mistake? Hard to say, but I don't believe that any of it is connected to some intangible soul.

Who we "are" as people is just a metastable state that is the sum of our wetware (brain), it's spontaneous activity (electrochemical signaling), and how it was shaped through our experiences. If you take away either of the first two components what we "are" ceases to be. You take away the activity, you just have a hunk of meat. You damage/destroy the meat, the activity is lost, and what we "are" is no more. This is easily demonstrated by people that get brain damage and pieces of who they were are lost permanently.

We are assembled from stuff on Earth, we live on Earth, we die on Earth, and everything that we were goes back to the Earth. That's all.
 
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Nigga sometimes I dont even believe humans are conscious the way we are told we are. We are merely mamals with a genetic mutation wich allowed us to use our brain to tame and chage our surroundings to better serve our primal needs. Other mamals migrate, we change, thats the long and short of it. Art is a mere representation of reality being fed to us through the subconcious of an artist. I cant comprehend what a true concious will be.
 
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What is a soul? Where does it come from? Where was it before we were us? Where does it go when the body dies? Do we get it at conception? Is it solely for humans? Can it be lost, or stolen?

I'd love to believe it, but all we know for sure is that nobody comes back. We know not one thing beyond that.
 
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I'm rather torn. Logically, evolutionary etc says that we're all just salty mushy fat encased in a calcium shell, hallucinating we can think.

But then-

About ten years ago I drove to a small local mall. As I was pulling up, I noticed two ambos loading up a stretcher into an ambulance. They were in no hurry, so I wasn't too concerned, and by the time I'd gotten out of my car and walked to the entrance, they were closing the ambulance doors. It's rude to gape at people while they're sick or working, so I did not hang around to watch, and went inside. About two metres in, the air had this profound sense of... emptiness. It felt exactly like something very large and important had just left, leaving a vacuum behind. It wasn't a sense of grief, it was absence, which isn't quite the same. I stumbled a bit but made myself march on. In the centre of the mall, a group of women were discussing the man who'd been taken to the ambulance. On a bench, a woman had her arm around a crying little girl and was very gently telling her what death is. I quickly gathered that the man who had been taken on the ambulance had had a very sudden event that took his life, like a heart attack or a massive aneurysm. That was why the ambos had not been in a hurry; there was no saving someone that had already left.

I'm not sure what a soul is, but I've felt its departure. So there's that.
 
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