Do supernatural beings exist? - Like ghosts and genies and giants.

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Does weird stuff exist?

  • Yes

    Votes: 59 73.8%

  • No

    Votes: 21 26.3%
  • Total voters
    80
Idiotron said:
If something exists, it is part of nature.
Supernature doesn't exist.
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I like to call any "supernatural in the natural" a "lack of reality", as Terry Pratchett has described magic. Or in other words, any supernatural effects in the natural world is that which defies the workings of nature. One example is "telekinesis" making something move in defiance of conservation of momentum: a "magic" that responds to thought. Of course, evidence of the supernatural is lacking.
 
I subscribe to the idea that ghosts are real. I've seen too many coincidences in my life to say they don't. Everything else is bullshit.
 
Gods ghosts and the like exist within the human mind where they are real in the sense that if someone is convinced jesus or whomever is instructing them to do something and they proceed to do it it then effects reality beyond refutation etc.
 
Ghosts don't exist.

Either there is a God, and that means god is infallible and would never leave someone here on earth by mistake. So no ghosts.

Or there is no God meaning there is no afterlife so there are no ghosts.

Either way, I ain't afraid of no ghosts.
 
Yes.

Here's a fun experiment you can do right at home and see for yourself: put yourself into a state of sleep paralysis. If you're not sure how to do that, just check out a video or whatever. It's actually quite easy to do with little practice. Some will write it off as just mental projections and the like, but if you find you really want to work at it? You'll begin to realize it feels more real than real once you can hold onto that state somewhat steadily.

Word of caution: I advise against doing this if your typical everyday state of mind is overly negative.
 
As @Idiotron pointed out, “supernatural” is almost exclusively invoked in bad faith by someone pretending to not know what words mean.

If you exist in the natural universe (which, by definition, includes everything; and has well-understood physical laws which are only theoretically subverted on the quantum level for infinitesimally brief moments) and happen to observe some weird shit, then you and it are both “natural”; and therefore both subject to natural laws, by virtue of existing.

In common contexts (claiming shit), “Supernatural” is as meaningless as “most unique.” When people invoke it in the course of asserting what are presumably epistemological or ontological arguments within which principles of logic are additionally presumed to somehow not apply, they’re just being a cunt with their fingers in their ears. How in the fuck am I supposed to agree with you if you won’t do your part in reaching a common understanding of the language we’re using?
 
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