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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

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  • Hunchback 2

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  • A slow death

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Steamboat_Bill said:
Disney's not collapsing, for Christ's sake. After COVID's taken care of they'll probably be back to normal, unless the government decides to enforce antitrust laws.

Little tip, folks - don't get your idea of what's going on in companies via YouTube.
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I don’t see them collapsing, but their debt to income is seriously unbalanced. If 2020 had been a normal year they’d be in much better shape, but having the parks- worldwide- shut down, movie theaters shut down, etc. etc., it’s harder to spackle over the cracks they created by over-extending themselves.

It’s like a chain restaurant that expanded really quickly. Opened a fuckton of restaurants, and saturated the market before seeing if the market would support them. Then they crash and disappear.

While Disney won’t disappear, they are probably far more fragile than they’ll ever admit. Hollywood finances are like juggling a bunch of chainsaws. As long as you’re balanced you’re fine (taking money from one item and moving it around), but if an earthquake happens (not as much money to move around) you’re fucked.
 
neverendingmidi said:
I don’t see them collapsing, but their debt to income is seriously unbalanced. If 2020 had been a normal year they’d be in much better shape, but having the parks- worldwide- shut down, movie theaters shut down, etc. etc., it’s harder to spackle over the cracks they created by over-extending themselves.
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To be fair to them, it was hardly their fault. Maybe if they'd known a worldwide pandemic was going to hit this year, they wouldn't have bought Fox.
 
Jelly Duvall said:
Unnecessary bullshit
Why do this if you aren't bringing back Jason Marsden and Cam Clarke?
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Don't you mean Matthew Broderick? Oh and give Jonathan Taylor Thomas a cameo too, I doubt he's doing anything at the moment.
 
UnKillFill said:
Don't you mean Matthew Broderick? Oh and give Jonathan Taylor Thomas a cameo too, I doubt he's doing anything at the moment.
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No they were in the sequel. But I just realized apparently the new one isn't going to follow the original sequel
 
Steamboat_Bill said:
Disney's not collapsing, for Christ's sake. After COVID's taken care of they'll probably be back to normal, unless the government decides to enforce antitrust laws.

Little tip, folks - don't get your idea of what's going on in companies via YouTube.
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As much as I hate this, it's probably true.

I don't see Disney collapsing outright. If things get really bad, I could see them selling off parts of their empire piecemeal like A&E, History Channel, and some of the less profitable or obscure IP's and titles from the Fox and Touchstone Pictures libraries.

They're not going to let go of Marvel, The Simpsons, or anything in the core Disney and Pixar canons. Stuff like Star Wars or some of the B-List Fox properties would only be sold off at a very high price as some kind of "in case of emergency, break glass" scenario.
 
Disney is not going to collapse. Whoever thinks that is an idiot. But things will not be the same as they were pre-lockdown. They are going to have to focus on making their money back and lay off the passion projects.
 
Random question I’ve always wondered since childhood.

So Pooh Bear eats too much Hunny and gets stuck inside Rabbit’s Burrow Hole and nobody can get him out. Why didn’t they just push him back in, and exit through Rabbit’s back door? CR kinda did vaguely suggest they “Push him back” but Rabbit was opposed to it.

Look at me, 34 years old, asking such a juvenile question
 
TrippinKahlua said:
Random question I’ve always wondered since childhood.

So Pooh Bear eats too much Hunny and gets stuck inside Rabbit’s Burrow Hole and nobody can get him out. Why didn’t they just push him back in, and exit through Rabbit’s back door? CR kinda did vaguely suggest they “Push him back” but Rabbit was opposed to it.

Look at me, 34 years old, asking such a juvenile question
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IceGray said:
I think Rabbit didn't want Pooh blundering through his house?
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This. He flips out at the prospect of Pooh crashing through his house. Though surely just moving shit out of the way so he didn't break anything instead of being forced to have Pooh's ass sticking inside his house for who knows how long would've been preferable...
 
neverendingmidi said:
I don’t see them collapsing, but their debt to income is seriously unbalanced. If 2020 had been a normal year they’d be in much better shape, but having the parks- worldwide- shut down, movie theaters shut down, etc. etc., it’s harder to spackle over the cracks they created by over-extending themselves.
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Cable cutters have probably had a bigger impact on Disney than COVID-19. ESPN revenues have been declining steadily, and that's their major cash cow.

Disney had a nice little racket going with Frozen. Major hit, all the kids love it, quickly open a Frozen ride so your kids beg you to take them to Disney World, sell Frozen merch everywhere. That's bringing in multiple business units. Someone derailed the train with the live action remakes.
 
Disney is buying pretty much everything right now and has been since the 2000's, I wouldn't be surprised if they started buying the whole world. However, as long as it makes money, that's what matters.
 

I've heard people at work talking about it. Seems like Disney trying to manufacture hype towards streaming to stop people from noticing how they are fucked economically. There is no sane reason to add stuff to Disney Plus considering the massive amount of IP Disney is sitting on, and I doubt Mulan has proved people are willing to pay dozens of dollars to watch a film at home to make back the massive investment. Going with "streaming is the future" is also insane, Corona will be gone by the time anything new will finish production.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:

I've heard people at work talking about it. Seems like Disney trying to manufacture hype towards streaming to stop people from noticing how they are fucked economically. There is no sane reason to add stuff to Disney Plus considering the massive amount of IP Disney is sitting on, and I doubt Mulan has proved people are willing to pay dozens of dollars to watch a film at home to make back the massive investment. Going with "streaming is the future" is also insane, Corona will be gone by the time anything new will finish production.
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With this shit, they better put out WandaVision sooner than they planned. I'm still waiting on the other MCU based shows that were promised.
 
The Fall of the House of Mouse continues:
Variety said:

Disney to Lay Off Dozens From Studio Division​

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Disney has enacted more layoffs, impacting more than 50 employees in the studio’s marketing group, the NY-based theatrical division and Searchlight Pictures. Several hundred open positions have been eliminated as well.

Six people at Searchlight Pictures, the independent label once owned by Fox, were laid off on Thursday.

Earlier in the day, the Disney-owned ESPN announced that 500 positions will be eliminated — 300 employees and 200 unfilled posts — to free up resources for streaming, digital and video departments.

Though no entertainment company has escaped the pandemic unscathed, Disney’s vast empire has been hit particularly hard by coronavirus. Florida theme parks have reopened, however, locations in California have yet to reopen and Paris has been forced to close down again. Disney announced in May that “Frozen” would not reopen on Broadway, illustrating how severely its theater division has been marred by Broadway’s prolonged shutdowns. And potential blockbusters like Marvel’s “Black Widow,” Steven Spielberg’s “West Side Story” remake and comic book adventure “Eternals” have been pushed into 2021 or later. Disney Plus has been one of the few bright spots as “Hamilton,” “Mulan” — and hopefully “Soul” in December — will help drive up subscriptions on the streaming service. Also, some film and TV productions have started shooting again.

Lionsgate on Thursday reported that 15% of the studio’s motion picture group would be laid off due to the pandemic. Last week, Sony Pictures enacted layoffs to its marketing and distribution teams as the studio consolidated domestic and international film and television operations, resulting in about 35 positions eliminated.

Deadline Hollywood first reported the news.
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as we know, disney seems a bit sinking-ship like.
what do you guys think they'll end to sell for fix their problems if they end to sell anything.
i still keep thinking they should sell their part of a&e and company, as i don't think disney even cares about those channels.
 
woowie queen said:
as we know, disney seems a bit sinking-ship like.
what do you guys think they'll end to sell for fix their problems if they end to sell anything.
i still keep thinking they should sell their part of a&e and company, as i don't think disney even cares about those channels.
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I bet they shut down various studios, like how they shut down Touchstone, rather than lose any licenses. One, because The Mouse hasn't let anything go once they control it in decades. Two, if a brand is floundering enough Disney is willing to part with it, will anybody be willing to buy it?

And it's not like all of the studios that have been bought haven't already been gutted to the point that they can't survive if they were spun off to be independent.
 
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