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[Your Weird Fetish]

People respond to trauma differently, and some people are just stronger than others.

 

[neverendingmidi]

By comparison Bridge to Terabithia just seems all around terrible and it has to do with how dated it is. It has a contemporary setting yet it's so glaringly obvious it's real setting is the 70's. They should have either properly updated certain scenes and dialog or have kept it's setting in the 70's (I feel this would've been the better option). Not to mention the advertising was super misleading; I had never heard of the book so going by the TV commercials I thought it was just a generic "kids find magic fantasy land and have an adventure" movie. I was genuinely surprised to find out the real plot was much different, which was why I sought out a few clips on YouTube in the first place that were just so bad.

I wasn’t surprised by Bridge to Terabithia, I knew it was going to suck as a movie because I had run into the book ages ago as a kid. It took two chapters or so before I realized the cover lied about it being fantasy, and it was a depressing POS. So when I saw the trailers I was laughing at how boldly they lied about the plot, with all the fantasy scenes and shit.

 

[omori]

Anyone remember House of Mouse? It was on Disney Channel in the early to mid 2000s and was a combination of current Disney animation and the early shorts. Loved the Halloween special with the villains.

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

I'm gonna go ahead and embarrass myself by admitting that I listened to Radio Disney until I graduated from middle school, and I still have a few of their Jams CDs. (Although to be fair, I learned of Aly & AJ through Radio Disney, so I got their Rush album, as well as Hilary Duff's Most Wanted.)

Behold my shitty tastes:
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I also have the High School Musical soundtrack for some reason--I did watch it when we rented it so that's probably why I got the soundtrack in the first place, but I otherwise have no idea. The only Disney soundtrack I own that's not cringe is Wreck-It Ralph, although you can argue there's some cringe songs on the soundtrack such as Rihanna's "Shut Up and Drive" and that they hired Japanese pop idol group AKB48 to record "Sugar Rush" (to be authentic, I guess).

EDIT: Actually, I just remembered that I did own the Little Mermaid and Tarzan soundtracks on cassette. I might've worn out the Little Mermaid one listening to it too much or something because I haven't seen it in years, but Tarzan is around somewhere.

Speaking of embarrassing stuff I remember seeing a parade float for High School Musical where they were doing the Wild Cats song and I actually enjoyed it.

Oh no, oh no. It's still catchy.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Anyone remember House of Mouse? It was on Disney Channel in the early to mid 2000s and was a combination of current Disney animation and the early shorts. Loved the Halloween special with the villains.

I never had cable, so I'd hear of it, but never really saw it proper until that Halloween special came out. I was a bit underwhelmed lol, I thought the villains would do more.

God that reminds me of something. I can't find the clip, but wasn't it mentioned in House of Mouse or another direct-to-video special that Goofy broke Mickey out of prison, and he promised him a "favor" later down the road, which involved his car or something? I thought it was related to the current Mickey Mouse shorts, but it was from back in the 2000s.

Though, speaking of A Mickey Mouse Cartoon... and all the talks 'bout Disneyland...

 

[Duncan Hills Coffee]

Something I wanna add here, since I think it's something interesting.

My siblings and I all grew up on Disney. We all watched Aladdin, Robin Hood, Hercules, The Great Mouse Detective, hell my first movie in the theater was Tarzan. We went to Disney World Paris, the whole shebang. At least a couple of us are big fans of Disney's animated works.

And we all also like Chicken Little (at least those of us who saw it). Last year, I was talking to one of my older siblings and they were legitimately surprised people hated it, since they watched it again the week before and enjoyed it.

It's like when we found out people hated Rock a Doodle and we were all shocked.

 

[Emperor Julian]

I genuinly pity who put their faith in the house of mouse as thought it's yourbuddy opposed to someone you pay to amuse you.

That said Lion king is probably one of my favourate movies of all time.

 

[KO 864]

My Disney comics came in the mail yestsrday (alongside a few other books). So far I've only had the chance to read the book 'In the Delta Dimension' and honestly I was disappointed. For 'The greatt Italian artist, it looked kind of weak, though it could be the colouring or me not being g used to Mickey with proper eyes. I loved the character of Trudy and the last story Shan-Grila was both exciting and funny, but I can only say the latter about the first story 'Delta Dimension' and the neither really for the second story. I can't quite remember which one had a nothing cliffhanger, but that annoyed me. The villain is obviously going to be Pete so stop trying to surprise me with him. I did however quite like the fight between Mickey and the little Chinese dude in the second Atomo story.

The most disappointing thing for me was the lack of historical and analytical content in the book. I was greatly looking forward to finding out more about the man who maintained Mickey's popularity in bootland, or even just about a few of the stories, similar to what we get in the Barks and Gottdresson books, but all that was there was a single page. I guess most discussion about the stories would be in some Euro-speak so it's not surprising really.

 

[Trilby]

The most disappointing thing for me was the lack of historical and analytical content in the book. I was greatly looking forward to finding out more about the man who maintained Mickey's popularity in bootland, or even just about a few of the stories, similar to what we get in the Barks and Gottdresson books, but all that was there was a single page. I guess most discussion about the stories would be in some Euro-speak so it's not surprising really.

Sad they couldn't provide more content there.

 

[KO 864]

Sad they couldn't provide more content there.

For a book that's meant to show the foreign masters of Disney, it picked medium stories, and did little to show the impact it had on other authors. For example in the Gottfredson books, each one ends with what another author did with one of the bigger stories in years to come. E.g. a mystery in a haunted house from one of Gottfredson's stories

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

For a book that's meant to show the foreign masters of Disney, it picked medium stories, and did little to show the impact it had on other authors. For example in the Gottfredson books, each one ends with what another author did with one of the bigger stories in years to come. E.g. a mystery in a haunted house from one of Gottfredson's stories

I haven't actually read my copy yet (I've spent more time looking at the George Carlson compilation I got the same day) but I think they've put out another Scarpa volume - and this one has a Phantom Blot story in it. There's also a volume out there collecting stories he did that are sequels to Snow White.

 

[KO 864]

I haven't actually read my copy yet (I've spent more time looking at the George Carlson compilation I got the same day) but I think they've put out another Scarpa volume - and this one has a Phantom Blot story in it. There's also a volume out there collecting stories he did that are sequels to Snow White.

I'm aware there are other compilations of his, but for the first book in the Disney Masters series, it was a let down. In the little bonus info we get it listed a psychological thriller dream type plot that introduced Pete's girlfriend and personally I think that would've been a better way to introduce Scarpa to the world.

 

[TrippinKahlua]

Anyone remember House of Mouse? It was on Disney Channel in the early to mid 2000s and was a combination of current Disney animation and the early shorts. Loved the Halloween special with the villains.

I liked that. Was at a good 17 when it was on and I thought the concept was rather interesting.

 

[A Random]

At least you guys are being the fun kind of sperg.

I once saw an entire spergathon over how Goofy's son from the old cartoons could never be Max because his name was Geef AND BY THE WAY the cartoons having a bunch of Goofs as characters is full proof that the real Goofy was acting for a TV show also Goofy can't have a son if he has a nephew and Max is the worst idea ever.

Made me feel like slapping them with a copy of How to Read Donald Duck.

 

[KO 864]

At least you guys are being the fun kind of sperg.

I once saw an entire spergathon over how Goofy's son from the old cartoons could never be Max because his name was Geef AND BY THE WAY the cartoons having a bunch of Goofs as characters is full proof that the real Goofy was acting for a TV show also Goofy can't have a son if he has a nephew and Max is the worst idea ever.

Made me feel like slapping them with a copy of How to Read Donald Duck.

I mean that guy is a moron but why would a book on communism fix it? I honestly thought you were going to mention something about determining Goofy's age within Goof Troop lore, considering the release dates and ages of Max up to and including Extremely Goofy remain consistent with real world time, or something like that, especially as the easier way to work it out is that Goofy left college in his third year, and that he left while Disco was still big. This is totally not something I've spent time thinking about by the way. Goofy definitely wasn't born sometime around 55 from my estimates.

 

[A Random]

I mean that guy is a moron but why would a book on communism fix it? I honestly thought you were going to mention something about determining Goofy's age within Goof Troop lore, considering the release dates and ages of Max up to and including Extremely Goofy remain consistent with real world time, or something like that, especially as the easier way to work it out is that Goofy left college in his third year, and that he left while Disco was still big. This is totally not something I've spent time thinking about by the way. Goofy definitely wasn't born sometime around 55 from my estimates.

The book is an analysis on Disney comics and how they were used as propaganda in South America.

And it's a better use of intensive research into Disney material than treating the idea of Goofy cartoons being canon to the comics as a meaningful part oc your life.

Plus have you seen how thick it is? That ought to knock some sense into them.

Spoiler: Book.

 

[KO 864]

The book is an analysis on Disney comics and how they were used as propaganda in South America.

And it's a better use of intensive research into Disney material than treating the idea of Goofy cartoons being canon to the comics as a meaningful part oc your life.

Plus have you seen how thick it is? That ought to knock some sense into them.

Spoiler: Book.

That does look like it could give someone a sizeable slap. I never thought about the comics being used as propaganda in South America, I always thought of them as being more of a European thing. I find it doubtful as being purposeful propaganda from the authors perspective as Barks had no idea that the books were even sold outside of the States until probably the 80s, and he more or less had free reign to write what he wanted, given that he was an ex-story man and animator.

I also love how the Goofy guy failed to overlook the obvious facts that Goofy is a cartoon character so it's not unreasonable for him to be multiple people, that Goofy's nephew only appears in a few comics, and that Goofy was as much different character in the 50s. Also, was this guy seriously trying to come up with half assed logic as to why Gilbert Goof is more canon than Max, despite one of them actually being relevant. From what I gather he was trying to debunk that Goofy was Beef in the 50s, that even if he was, Jr isn't Max, and that even if he was, having a nephew means you're unable to have kids??? I mean I've gotten into slap-fights over my interpretations of canon (Goofy is totally a nickname) but this guy takes the cake.

 

[MysticMisty]

I once saw an entire spergathon over how Goofy's son from the old cartoons could never be Max because his name was Geef AND BY THE WAY the cartoons having a bunch of Goofs as characters is full proof that the real Goofy was acting for a TV show also Goofy can't have a son if he has a nephew and Max is the worst idea ever.

Because how dare there not be enough continuity between cartoons released over nearly 80 years. And how can someone not be an uncle and a father at the same time? You might as well be saying someone can't have a grandma because they have an aunt.

 

[A Random]

I never thought about the comics being used as propaganda in South America, I always thought of them as being more of a European thing. I find it doubtful as being purposeful propaganda from the authors perspective as Barks had no idea that the books were even sold outside of the States until probably the 80s, and he more or less had free reign to write what he wanted, given that he was an ex-story man and animator.

What do you think Saludos Amigos was about?

The argument to be made is that, during the Cold War, the US through Disney made an effort to publish comic books both for profit and to show 'american life' in a much more kid-friendly way. After all, the average 5-year old doesn't see Uncle Sam in Donald having a house and three kids to raise, nor do they realize the whole 'Mighty Whitey' thing going on when Donald and co. save the day for the foreigners who aren't them.

It's less Barks being intentional and more his bias as someone who was, well, doing his job as well as his passion.

I also love how the Goofy guy failed to overlook the obvious facts that Goofy is a cartoon character so it's not unreasonable for him to be multiple people, that Goofy's nephew only appears in a few comics, and that Goofy was as much different character in the 50s. Also, was this guy seriously trying to come up with half assed logic as to why Gilbert Goof is more canon than Max, despite one of them actually being relevant. From what I gather he was trying to debunk that Goofy was Beef in the 50s, that even if he was, Jr isn't Max, and that even if he was, having a nephew means you're unable to have kids??? I mean I've gotten into slap-fights over my interpretations of canon (Goofy is totally a nickname) but this guy takes the cake.

He doesn't 'overlook' them [and to be fair, globally, Gilbert probably has as many appearances as Super Goof]. He just wants to believe in some unified main canon and, I think, follows a view like Don Rosa [who wanted Mickey to not be real in 'his' Duckverse].

Because how dare there not be enough continuity between cartoons released over nearly 80's years. And how can someone not be an uncle and a father at the same time? You might as well be saying someone can't have a grandma because they have an aunt.

Disney's practices of not wanting actual single parents in their 50s resulting in nearly all children being nephews and nieces [other than Little Wolf and his incompetent evil dad] means the comic spergs refuse to accept kids who aren't officially in the main comics.

And that's not getting into the goddamn shipping. Thanks to Europe not having a Barks boner at first, they gave Scrooge a fangirl. Some fans are so mad at her, and how it gets in the way of Scrooge and the Don Rosa waifu.

I really can't understate how awful it got.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

I also love how the Goofy guy failed to overlook the obvious facts that Goofy is a cartoon character so it's not unreasonable for him to be multiple people, that Goofy's nephew only appears in a few comics, and that Goofy was as much different character in the 50s. Also, was this guy seriously trying to come up with half assed logic as to why Gilbert Goof is more canon than Max, despite one of them actually being relevant. From what I gather he was trying to debunk that Goofy was Beef in the 50s, that even if he was, Jr isn't Max, and that even if he was, having a nephew means you're unable to have kids??? I mean I've gotten into slap-fights over my interpretations of canon (Goofy is totally a nickname) but this guy takes the cake.

You just reminded me of something - there was some guy who wrote a history of Disney under Eisner who criticized A Goofy Movie for, of all things, giving Goofy depth. What a betrayal it was, he thought, to make happy ol' Goofy depressed and self-reflective...