Disney General - The saddest fandom on Earth

[neverendingmidi]

I never had the Disney Channel when I was little, because it was on a higher tier of cable (HBO was cheaper at least in our area), so when I saw it was on the free weekends when they played classic movies to try and get people to sign up. It wasn’t until maybe 98 when it became standard, but then they also seemed to never show the classic movies anymore either.

I dunno, maybe it was like PBS, where they only show the interesting stuff during the pledge week.

 

[Trilby]

I never had the Disney Channel when I was little, because it was on a higher tier of cable (HBO was cheaper at least in our area), so when I saw it was on the free weekends when they played classic movies to try and get people to sign up. It wasn’t until maybe 98 when it became standard, but then they also seemed to never show the classic movies anymore either.

Yes, you missed it.

I dunno, maybe it was like PBS, where they only show the interesting stuff during the pledge week.

Could be, but they did have a lot of things that were shown outside of those preview weekends too.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

I never had the Disney Channel when I was little, because it was on a higher tier of cable (HBO was cheaper at least in our area), so when I saw it was on the free weekends when they played classic movies to try and get people to sign up. It wasn’t until maybe 98 when it became standard, but then they also seemed to never show the classic movies anymore either.

I dunno, maybe it was like PBS, where they only show the interesting stuff during the pledge week.

By the time I got cable the Disney Channel was kind of on its way to crappy-teenage-sitcom territory, which it was fully in by the late 00s (with the exception of Phineas and Ferb, the only thing worth watching in those days).

Eventually I got Toon Disney when Jetix had overtaken it, but I didn't watch that too much, although there were good parts - reruns of The Tick, Pinky and the Brain and most of the 90s superhero cartoons, as well as what little old Disney shows were left.

 

[Trilby]

By the time I got cable the Disney Channel was kind of on its way to crappy-teenage-sitcom territory, which it was fully in by the late 00s (with the exception of Phineas and Ferb, the only thing worth watching in those days).

I was there practically from the very beginning. There was hardly any obnoxious teen comedies to speak of then, though they did dabble in some sitcoms like an updated Leave It To Beaver series and the show that later spun off to Saved By The Bell.

Eventually I got Toon Disney when Jetix had overtaken it, but I didn't watch that too much, although there were good parts - reruns of The Tick, Pinky and the Brain and most of the 90s superhero cartoons, as well as what little old Disney shows were left.

Never did watch Toon Disney at all sadly. Just didn't think of it when it was out there.

 

[XYZpdq]

"Disney's Halloween Treat"

fuck year

and yeah from what I remember old Disney Channel was mostly old stuff from the vaults like Zorro, movies (more the live action catalog than the big animated movies), Canadian/Euro stuff, things like that

 

[Trilby]

fuck year

and yeah from what I remember old Disney Channel was mostly old stuff from the vaults like Zorro, movies (more the live action catalog than the big animated movies), Canadian/Euro stuff, things like that

It was stuff nobody else thought to take as I put it, especially when it came to those foreign movies like Unico and Asterix. I loved those times when I was seeing something I didn't see anywhere else.

 

[MysticMisty]

When Disney launches its streaming service they're gonna remake all the old live-action films. I'm not even joking. Remakes of Honey, I Shrunk the Kids and The Parent Trap are in the pipeline.

They need to stop remaking Escape to Witch Mountain. The first one was boring and not very good (and man did I feel stupid for tuning in after thinking it looked exciting), it sure as hell didn't deserve two sequels and two remakes.

Since it's the season, what are some of your favorite Disney-related things to watch in October?

When I was young I always looked forward to Disney's Halloween Treat/A Disney Halloween. The only real difference between the two is A Disney Halloween included a villain showcase hosted by the Wicked Queen's magic mirror that was made, oddly, to promote the first Rescuers movie. The quality isn't good but it's been uploaded to YouTube (the upload title is wrong).

There's also a similar Christmas themed special, but I can't recall the name of it, and unlike the above there wasn't really a lot of clips/shorts relevant to Christmas in it. I'll talk about it more closer to Christmas.

I never had the Disney Channel when I was little, because it was on a higher tier of cable (HBO was cheaper at least in our area), so when I saw it was on the free weekends when they played classic movies to try and get people to sign up. It wasn’t until maybe 98 when it became standard, but then they also seemed to never show the classic movies anymore either.

I dunno, maybe it was like PBS, where they only show the interesting stuff during the pledge week.

No, Disney Channel of the late 90's was much different from the early years of the channel (which even now I'm still surprised my parents splurged to get that particular channel for me, although they refused to do the same with Toon Disney when it launched after the regular Disney Channel became included with standard cable). Until around the mid 90's they had entire blocks based around classic cartoons and various movies (including non-Disney ones) as well as some TV shows as well. Commercial free, even! It was a bit of a mixed bag mind you (I tuned into Escape to Witch Mountain on Triple Feature Friday because the commercials for it looked exciting, for example), but I saw plenty of good stuff to make up for the bad.

It wasn't toddler and preteen dominated back then either, that didn't really happen until the mid 90's when they decided to be more like Nick. I mean, there were toddler shows, but they occupied the late morning-early afternoon hours (basically the hours of morning and afternoon kindergarten), not all morning and half the afternoon. I don't recall there being preteen shows then either.

Another thing classic Disney Channel did was show clips of random movies (usually if not always musical numbers) inbetween shows as well as straight up music videos. There are some from the early days I'm pretty sure are lost (I've only ever found the one for the spaghetti song on YouTube), but they also had ones for The Lion King and others for sure, but unsurprisingly I only remember the Lion King ones. My personal favorite was the one for Can You Feel the Love Tonight.

(I can't believe this has an official upload!)

 

[XYZpdq]

They need to stop remaking Escape to Witch Mountain. The first one was boring and not very good (and man did I feel stupid for tuning in after thinking it looked exciting), it sure as hell didn't deserve two sequels and two remakes.


When I was young I always looked forward to Disney's Halloween Treat/A Disney Halloween. The only real difference between the two is A Disney Halloween included a villain showcase hosted by the Wicked Queen's magic mirror that was made, oddly, to promote the first Rescuers movie. The quality isn't good but it's been uploaded to YouTube (the upload title is wrong).
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vdN3nAAfg3Q
There's also a similar Christmas themed special, but I can't recall the name of it, and unlike the above there wasn't really a lot of clips/shorts relevant to Christmas in it. I'll talk about it more closer to Christmas.


No, Disney Channel of the late 90's was much different from the early years of the channel (which even now I'm still surprised my parents splurged to get that particular channel for me, although they refused to do the same with Toon Disney when it launched after the regular Disney Channel became included with standard cable). Until around the mid 90's they had entire blocks based around classic cartoons and various movies (including non-Disney ones) as well as some TV shows as well. Commercial free, even! It was a bit of a mixed bag mind you (I tuned into Escape to Witch Mountain on Triple Feature Friday because the commercials for it looked exciting, for example), but I saw plenty of good stuff to make up for the bad.

It wasn't toddler and preteen dominated back then either, that didn't really happen until the mid 90's when they decided to be more like Nick. I mean, there were toddler shows, but they occupied the late morning-early afternoon hours (basically the hours of morning and afternoon kindergarten), not all morning and half the afternoon. I don't recall there being preteen shows then either.

Another thing classic Disney Channel did was show clips of random movies (usually if not always musical numbers) inbetween shows as well as straight up music videos. There are some from the early days I'm pretty sure are lost (I've only ever found the one for the spaghetti song on YouTube), but they also had ones for The Lion King and others for sure, but unsurprisingly I only remember the Lion King ones. My personal favorite was the one for Can You Feel the Love Tonight.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KjgWWjkNbhU(I can't believe this has an official upload!)

The one my parents taped was labelled "Disney's Halloween Treat" too.
As for the music videos, I think a mess of the DTVs are out there

 

[Trilby]

There's also a similar Christmas themed special, but I can't recall the name of it, and unlike the above there wasn't really a lot of clips/shorts relevant to Christmas in it. I'll talk about it more closer to Christmas.

I think I know which one you're talking about, I could link to it right now, but I suppose I could wait anyway.

No, Disney Channel of the late 90's was much different from the early years of the channel(which even now I'm still surprised my parents splurged to get that particular channel for me, although they refused to do the same with Toon Disney when it launched after the regular Disney Channel became included with standard cable).

The PBS analogy certainly wasn't the case.

Until around the mid 90's they had entire blocks based around classic cartoons and various movies (including non-Disney ones) as well as some TV shows as well. Commercial free, even! It was a bit of a mixed bag mind you (I tuned into Escape to Witch Mountain on Triple Feature Friday because the commercials for it looked exciting, for example), but I saw plenty of good stuff to make up for the bad.

I mean there were a lot of stinkers I used to see because of that like Superdad or The North Avenue Irregulars, but there was something for everyone.

It wasn't toddler and preteen dominated back then either, that didn't really happen until the mid 90's when they decided to be more like Nick. I mean, there were toddler shows, but they occupied the late morning-early afternoon hours (basically the hours of morning and afternoon kindergarten), not all morning and half the afternoon. I don't recall there being preteen shows then either.

The closest probably was their update of the Mickey Mouse Club that started around 1989, but that was only one show, unless they had others that followed down the road.

Another thing classic Disney Channel did was show clips of random movies (usually if not always musical numbers) inbetween shows as well as straight up music videos. There are some from the early days I'm pretty sure are lost (I've only ever found the one for the spaghetti song on YouTube), but they also had ones for The Lion King and others for sure, but unsurprisingly I only remember the Lion King ones. My personal favorite was the one for Can You Feel the Love Tonight.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KjgWWjkNbhU(I can't believe this has an official upload!)

It's VEVO, so it has to be!

I think what you're thinking of was this...

They would play this a lot in the 80's.

 

[MysticMisty]

As for the music videos, I think a mess of the DTVs are out there
https://youtube.com/watch?v=l4h4zGrqWgM

I think what you're thinking of was this...
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YEsoukVAKrwThey would play this a lot in the 80's.

You guys aren't wrong, but I should've clarified in my previous (overlong) post that the music videos I'm thinking of specifically weren't made up of clips from movies and shorts, they contained original footage specifically shot for the song. The only one I know of that's been uploaded to YouTube was this one:

But there were a few others as well. One featured a bunch of kids repainting an old train engine to The Locomotion, another had a girl in a bee costume frolicking in a field, and the third one I can remember had something or other to do with a T-Rex. There might be a couple others I've forgotten about.

 

[Fagnacious D]

Adding more to the stuff Disney did from the 80s...
Totally Minnie. Minnie mouse and a few other people teach Maxwell Dweeb (literally Lewis Skolnick, the main character from Revenge of the Nerds under a different name) how to be cool. Also Minnie sings a duet with Elton John somewhere in there.

 

[Johnny Bravo]

Why isn't Home on the Range on the poll?

Out of the three it would be the clear winner. Chicken Little is thoroughly unpleasant in every aspect, especially the visual, and Hunchback 2 is probably the worst direct-to-video Disney sequel. The Fox and the Hound 2 might be a contender, though.

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

The Freaky Friday 2003 remake with Lindsay Lohan is Disney, right? I actually enjoy that one. Speaking of Lindsay and Disney- I'm interested in why so many of their young female stars end up getting fucked up.

 

[Muttnik]

The Freaky Friday 2003 remake with Lindsay Lohan is Disney, right? I actually enjoy that one. Speaking of Lindsay and Disney- I'm interested in why so many of their young female stars end up getting fucked up.

I actually really really dig the remake of Freaky Friday over the original. Jamie Lee Curtis is surprisingly quite funny. Bummer about what happened to Lohan though. She was not bad in that movie.

Holes is also Disney, right? That one was pretty damn stellar and I'm surprised its cast is as good as it is, Labeoufs notwithstanding.

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

I'm pretty sure Holes is Disney. I guess I can't say it's just a Disney thing where the young child actors end up going crazy and act out. Didn't Zac Efron end up getting issues later on too? Instead of saying it's Disney I'd have to say it's Hollywood and their weird treatment of child actors- but especially Disney since they are supposed to be family friendly.

 

[MysticMisty]

Holes is also Disney, right? That one was pretty damn stellar and I'm surprised its cast is as good as it is, Labeoufs notwithstanding.

Holes is pretty good, but that's because the source material is really good and I really enjoyed reading it as well. It helps too that not only did the movie came out pretty close to the release of the book (just five years after actually), but the book was written in such a way that it's not easily dated. Kids in 2018 probably won't perceive it much, if any differently, than I did way back in 1998.

By comparison Bridge to Terabithia just seems all around terrible and it has to do with how dated it is. It has a contemporary setting yet it's so glaringly obvious it's real setting is the 70's. They should have either properly updated certain scenes and dialog or have kept it's setting in the 70's (I feel this would've been the better option). Not to mention the advertising was super misleading; I had never heard of the book so going by the TV commercials I thought it was just a generic "kids find magic fantasy land and have an adventure" movie. I was genuinely surprised to find out the real plot was much different, which was why I sought out a few clips on YouTube in the first place that were just so bad.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

These live action remakes make me seethe with how soulless they are. Disney has spent the last decade fully exposing just how money-hungry they are to the point where the sense of genuineness of the Renaissance era feels like a myth from long ago.

A mouse is supposed to be a cute and cuddly little critter. Not a goddamn SNAKE.

Like this video says about Disney, it's a corporation that don't care much:

And imagine a mouse with octopus hentai tentacles

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I'm gonna go ahead and embarrass myself by admitting that I listened to Radio Disney until I graduated from middle school, and I still have a few of their Jams CDs. (Although to be fair, I learned of Aly & AJ through Radio Disney, so I got their Rush album, as well as Hilary Duff's Most Wanted.)

Behold my shitty tastes:

I also have the High School Musical soundtrack for some reason--I did watch it when we rented it so that's probably why I got the soundtrack in the first place, but I otherwise have no idea. The only Disney soundtrack I own that's not cringe is Wreck-It Ralph, although you can argue there's some cringe songs on the soundtrack such as Rihanna's "Shut Up and Drive" and that they hired Japanese pop idol group AKB48 to record "Sugar Rush" (to be authentic, I guess).

EDIT: Actually, I just remembered that I did own the Little Mermaid and Tarzan soundtracks on cassette. I might've worn out the Little Mermaid one listening to it too much or something because I haven't seen it in years, but Tarzan is around somewhere.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

The Freaky Friday 2003 remake with Lindsay Lohan is Disney, right? I actually enjoy that one. Speaking of Lindsay and Disney- I'm interested in why so many of their young female stars end up getting fucked up.

I'm not normally one to jump on hollywood pedo ring conspiracies but it would tend to explain a lot of the later behavior of people like Lohan.

 

[KO 864]

I'm not normally one to jump on hollywood pedo ring conspiracies but it would tend to explain a lot of the later behavior of people like Lohan.

I am one of those people and it doesn't add up to me. Lohan burnt out a lot later than most other child actors and unlike with a lot of other child actors, she more or less managed to get past her image as a child actor, with Mean Girls and that. I think there's something else going on with her but I'm not sure. If nothing else the rumors would explain Maculy Culkin and Speilberg's fondness of stories about children.