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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 433 27.4%
  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 57 3.6%
  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,088 68.9%

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    1,578
This is the first time I've heard of someone that isn't the Indian tribe as being an issue. I also would've expected the problem with Tinkerbell being the way her ass is showed off when she's stuck in the keyhole and not that she hates Wendy. It's double weird because everyone from Neverland hates Wendy, except (maybe) Peter. Why is Tinkerbell singled out for it?
I distinctly remember the mermaids being more bitchy than Tinkerbell. Plus they didn't feel remorse for trying to drown her lmao. They're probably just complaining about Tink because she's recognisable and something of an icon.

Edit: come to think of it, does anyone remember that series of Tinkerbell movies where she lives with other fairies? I'm surprised that wasn't more popular considering all the merchandise she's on.
 
I distinctly remember the mermaids being more bitchy than Tinkerbell. Plus they didn't feel remorse for trying to drown her lmao. They're probably just complaining about Tink because she's recognisable and something of an icon.

Edit: come to think of it, does anyone remember that series of Tinkerbell movies where she lives with other fairies? I'm surprised that wasn't more popular considering all the merchandise she's on.
They made several of those, but they petered out, I dunno, sometime last decade?
 
I distinctly remember the mermaids being more bitchy than Tinkerbell. Plus they didn't feel remorse for trying to drown her lmao. They're probably just complaining about Tink because she's recognisable and something of an icon.

Edit: come to think of it, does anyone remember that series of Tinkerbell movies where she lives with other fairies? I'm surprised that wasn't more popular considering all the merchandise she's on.
They made several of those, but they petered out, I dunno, sometime last decade?
The series went on to 2008 to 2015 I think?
 
This is the first time I've heard of someone that isn't the Indian tribe as being an issue. I also would've expected the problem with Tinkerbell being the way her ass is showed off when she's stuck in the keyhole and not that she hates Wendy. It's double weird because everyone from Neverland hates Wendy, except (maybe) Peter. Why is Tinkerbell singled out for it?
Tinkerbell is where the animators slipped kinky shit past the radar.
There's the way she is stuck into the keyhole, and there's the way Peter grab her by the wings and spanks to get her to release fairy dust... blink and you will miss it but it's there. Plus her design: dumb trunk ass in a mini-skirt. It's not by mistake. A kid won't understand but to an adult eye it's clear someone was having fun.

Besides the Injuns, the whole film is very dated, I don't know what to single out. Wendy's characterization is a 50's ideal: when she isn't in need of saving or gawking at Peter she just acts like a docile mini-mommy.

I like it a lot, it's beautiful (I really like Peter Pan in general) but the politics are retarded.
 
I like it a lot, it's beautiful (I really like Peter Pan in general) but the politics are retarded.
Wimmen as wimmen, injuns as injuns, boys as boys. It's a masterpiece!
Wendy's characterization is a 50's ideal: when she isn't in need of saving or gawking at Peter she just acts like a docile mini-mommy.
The whole book was about Wendy being a mother!
 
The whole book was about Wendy being a mother!
Nah
You don't need her to be giga-eager to become a upper-class housewife, you can explore other aspects of her characterizations and let her be more of a kid, there's a 2000 Peter Pan movie that is quite good in that aspect and allows her to have more depth.
 
They should do a throwback 90s live action Disney movie and have Tinkerbell get transformed into a real woman and get stuck in New York. It's Jungle 2 Jungle meets Splash!
They kinda already did that:
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(Or is that the joke?)
 
Tinkerbell is where the animators slipped kinky shit past the radar.
There's the way she is stuck into the keyhole, and there's the way Peter grab her by the wings and spanks to get her to release fairy dust... blink and you will miss it but it's there. Plus her design: dumb trunk ass in a mini-skirt. It's not by mistake. A kid won't understand but to an adult eye it's clear someone was having fun.

Besides the Injuns, the whole film is very dated, I don't know what to single out. Wendy's characterization is a 50's ideal: when she isn't in need of saving or gawking at Peter she just acts like a docile mini-mommy.

I like it a lot, it's beautiful (I really like Peter Pan in general) but the politics are retarded.
I wouldn't say she's that docile when she gets pissed at how Peter treats her quite a bit in the film...

I think I like the old Fox Kids show Peter Pan and the Pirates better, but wouldn't you know, Disney owns that now and they are never gonna let it out. Jason Marsden (that version of Pan) puts it best.
 
I wouldn't say she's that docile when she gets pissed at how Peter treats her quite a bit in the film...
Yeah, she makes it clear that she's done with Neverland when she gets bossed and bitched at during the Indian celebration. To the point where she's not even allowed to participate in anything except the smoke-um peace pipe (that she declines to do). I can't say I blame her though considering how terrible everyone is to her. I'd want to go home, too.

It's why I think it's weird as hell that everyone else gets a pass for being mean to Wendy except for Tinkerbell.

Tinkerbell is where the animators slipped kinky shit past the radar.
There's the way she is stuck into the keyhole, and there's the way Peter grab her by the wings and spanks to get her to release fairy dust... blink and you will miss it but it's there. Plus her design: dumb trunk ass in a mini-skirt. It's not by mistake. A kid won't understand but to an adult eye it's clear someone was having fun.
There's kind of a reason why there's an urban legend about Tinkerbell's design being based off of Marilyn Monroe. She wasn't, but the myth is there for a reason (and it wasn't the blonde hair).
 
did they release this movie on disney+?

Wow, talk about your all-star cast. I barely remember it. This could be good...
My biggest pipe dream, especially due to the "fuck you" prices the DVD goes for.
They'll never let it compete with their gay singing versions. And probably there's some sort of racial complaint. To the "vault" it goes!

And I bet they never make a live action remake of Pocahontas. Brown people can only be in films without White people otherwise it's racist.
 
They'll never let it compete with their gay singing versions. And probably there's some sort of racial complaint. To the "vault" it goes!
Maybe, but I think the reason Disney has buried it is because it's actually pretty scary, and also the villain is Cary Elwes' character, so that's not an excuse. (Oh wait, you were talking about Pocahontas, but point still stands lul.)
 
I barely remember it.
The thing that stands out to me the most is when Mowgli goes to see King Louie for...some reason, I forget what. Anyways King Louie has a fuckton of treasure and when Mowgli shows up he and the monkeys start chimping out, and then Kaa appears. And Kaa means business and just skips the hypnotism and just goes straight for the kill. Fighting happens and it ends with Mowgli grabbing a knife and fucking stabbing Kaa, and the water they're in turns bloody and shit.

Only Kaa didn't die, he shows up at the end and eats the villain while he's grabbing treasure.

Oh, and Shere Kahn isn't actually a villain in this version (unlike every other version including I'm pretty sure the actual book). He only shows up to kill people if they don't obey the "laws of the jungle" (which primarily means killing for sport and not for survival).

They'll never let it compete with their gay singing versions.
Well, it also wasn't wildly successful and that may play a part. It was made for $30 million but barely broke even in the US and only grossed $70 million in total, so while it was technically a profitable success, it wasn't overwhelming so, especially for something released during the Christmas season. Particularly compared to The Lion King, which was released less than six months before, was the highest grossing movie of 94 (by a landslide), and at the time was the second highest grossing movie of all time, second to Jurassic Park from just the year before.

And maybe it's a demand issue? Maybe they know Millennials aren't as interested in some 90's movies as much as others? Although I'd think Rocketman would've been a big hit during the height of the pandemic for obvious reasons.....
 
And maybe it's a demand issue? Maybe they know Millennials aren't as interested in some 90's movies as much as others?
Yeah but on a streaming service you want to show everything so people always feel like there's something else to watch. That's why they all have so much bullshit. Disney+ only makes sense if you can get even the bad Disney stuff.

Well, I don't trust them to make good business decisions.
 
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