Orbiter Devon John Infinito / @GiBi / GiBi_Devon - Spread lies for Bella, accidentally(?) doxed one of her victims, linked to many bad actors.

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Tartan as we know it today was designed and had a load of fake historical shit slapped on it, along with a load of other weird new "traditional" things to try to drum up tourism and hype up King George IV's visit to Scotland, and it still seems to be working on people like GiBi.
GiBi is the kind of absolute retard who can even be fooled by someone like Isabella.
 
Yanks have no culture so they make a big deal out of the tourist tat from the cultures they claim heritage. This does make it incredibly easy to get laid with white Americans if you're any sort of European, and easy to sell them shit.

This gets even funnier when you look into certain surnames and find out a majority of people with that lineage originally were sent to the colonies as criminals and now they're gloating about being 1/3 British or some shit.
 
GiBi is the kind of absolute retard who can even be fooled by someone like Isabella.
I don't think it'd be as bad if he wasn't on here while Bella was already discovered to be untrustworthy, and a friend of Fiona's had already tried clearing her name up. If it wasn't for that, I'd say it'd be far more understandble, seeing how Bella practically fooled almost everyone she talked to before her exposure.
 

Maybe worth going into, maybe not, but GiBi is finally starting to cover the Bella saga, in more detail (perhaps as a result of the prison letters asking about Fiona and Bella).
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He briefly touches on the situation in said video, and seems to be careful to use the term Suitress to refer to Fiona, I would say not wanting to step on anyones toes.

He claims that the reason that Bella trusted Fiona with the video is because Bella had romantic interests in Fiona. This part is possibly true, with Bella admitting a sexual interest. But this sexual interest being the reason as to why Bella gave Fiona the audio? From what I'm aware, there is nothing on the web confirming or exploring that possibility, and this seems like pure speculation on GiBi's part, that he is instead stating as fact.

He also claims that Bella and Fiona planned to meet up with Chris to protect him from Sockness, which seems reminiscent of an older thing he claimed ("Null had assigned Bella as a tard wrangler to protect Chris from Sockness"), which as far as I can see, has not been evidenced anywhere on the web. Not sure why GiBi is sticking with "Bella and Fiona planned to meet up with Chris to protect him from Sockness" if there is no public information evidencing this anywhere.
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He does somewhat acknowledge that "some moron youtuber 'accidentally' released her phone number online", which is somewhat progress, but nothing on him inserting her phone number into the video multiple times after being told not to, putting that information out there purposely so both sides, including Bella, can get their information out (and I'm paraphrasing his own words on that), etc. Nothing on him trying to blame Kiwifarms for his own fuckup afterwards either, or that one of his close sources who he trusted more than the people on here investigating things in real time turned out to be Sean Walker.
 
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The part about sockness is true to an extent, they talked about him in the discord leaks, and I believe Chris or maybe Sean actually put Bella on "Sockness-guard". Chris might have introduced Fiona to bella so they could both act as guards but I don't think that was ever said specifically. Seemed more like Fiona was going anyway and Chris introduced them because Bella was booking rooms and "looking after him".
Why Fiona was given the audio is a complete mystery, no reasons mentioned just Bella saying "I sent it to Fiona and she's disgusted". I'd guess that Bella was either trying to impress or get her on board with causing harm to Chris. She's one of those people who can't keep their mouths shut, sent it to Fiona/Allen/Louis immediately after she recorded it just to brag.
Definite progress with regards to leaking her number, proud of you devon, keep it up champ.
Two things to improve on, though this is more the fault of those writing letters. "Recent updates suggest she still likes you". Lol no, we've not heard from Fiona for a long time and the most recent update was her saying she doesn't want anything to do with Chris. "She still wants to bear you a child", some fat janny changed the title of her thread without reading the op and people have taken this as gospel. If you're going to talk about people the least you can do is not help spread bullshit (again). This is why we had issues.
I give this video a 5/10. Definite improvements, though while he isn't actively spreading misinformation (much), he's parroted other peoples and is still very boring.

Finally, here is a picture of Devon from 2017. He was introduced to chris in 2018, the same year he started taking seroquel.

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By 2019 he looked like this.

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Don't let your kids find out about Chris.
 
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The part about sockness is true to an extent, they talked about him in the discord leaks, and I believe Chris or maybe Sean actually put Bella on "Sockness-guard". Chris might have introduced Fiona to bella so they could both act as guards but I don't think that was ever said specifically. Seemed more like Fiona was going anyway and Chris introduced them because Bella was booking rooms and "looking after him".
Why Fiona was given the audio is a complete mystery, no reasons mentioned just Bella saying "I sent it to Fiona and she's disgusted". I'd guess that Bella was either trying to impress or get her on board with causing harm to Chris. She's one of those people who can't keep their mouths shut, sent it to Fiona/Allen/Louis immediately after she recorded it just to brag.
Definite progress with regards to leaking her number, proud of you devon, keep it up champ.
Two things to improve on, though this is more the fault of those writing letters. "Recent updates suggest she still likes you". Lol no, we've not heard from Fiona for a long time and the most recent update was her saying she doesn't want anything to do with Chris. "She still wants to bear you a child", some fat janny changed the title of her thread without reading the op and people have taken this as gospel. If you're going to talk about people the least you can do is not help spread bullshit (again). This is why we had issues.
I give this video a 5/10. Definite improvements, though while he isn't actively spreading misinformation (much), he's parroted other peoples and is still very boring.

Finally, here is a picture of Devon from 2017. He was introduced to chris in 2018, the same year he started taking seroquel.

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By 2019 he looked like this.

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Don't let your kids find out about Chris.
That whole explanation where he basically says "Oh she gave Fiona the call because she loved her" sounds so retarded, NGL.

He also claims that Bella and Fiona planned to meet up with Chris to protect him from Sockness, which seems reminiscent of an older thing he claimed ("Null had assigned Bella as a tard wrangler to protect Chris from Sockness"), which as far as I can see, has not been evidenced anywhere on the web. Not sure why GiBi is sticking with "Bella and Fiona planned to meet up with Chris to protect him from Sockness" if there is no public information evidencing this anywhere.
I mean, from a certain angle it does seem like a possibility, as Sockness had claimed that he'd show up there, and the both of them were talking about him in Discord logs, but as far as I can tell, neither of them were actually assigned the role. Bella's "bodyguard" role was entirely self-assigned. Plus, I kind of have doubts GiBi would have known about any of that. Plus we still don't know 100% what Fiona's whole plan there was going to be, other than claiming to want to fuck Chris.
 
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I mean, from a certain angle it does seem like a possibility, as Sockness had claimed that he'd show up there, and the both of them were talking about him in Discord logs, but as far as I can tell, neither of them were actually assigned the role. Bella's "bodyguard" role was entirely self-assigned. Plus, I kind of have doubts GiBi would have known about any of that. Plus we still don't know 100% what Fiona's whole plan there was going to be, other than claiming to want to fuck Chris.
Agreed. It's possible that Bella took on the role of "bodyguard", though I don't recall seeing any actual assignation of that role and it seems to be self-assigned, if at that.

On GiBi being privy to that information, I'm not sure where he would get that from? Sean Walker? I mean, months ago, he started his Bella video with "She was assigned as a tard wrangler by Null", so it seems like a bit of leftover from that, and information that isn't really verified.

Fiona being assigned a Bodyguard/Tard Wrangler as well seems to be entirely bs on his part.
 
I used to kinda like his shit just cause I wanted to know about Sockness and I wasn’t fully a contributor to the farm mostly a lurker. But after the Bella thing GiBi is just obsessed with being THE Chris Chan guy. He wants to break stories or updates and not do his research, he claims not to really go on here but still uses it as a source for his videos. He’s another sperg who tries to claim Chris as “his cow” like those fuckin loser wankstains who got assblasted at DeadwingDork for talking about Dayton Hypernova. If you claim a LOLCow as your own your just as much of a tard. Sorry for spergy post.
 
I havn't thought about GiBi in awhile, but yeah. His biggest problem is that he just gets too close to this shit, and still claims to be neutral.

All the salicious shit doesn't matter that much, but the issue of him talking with Sockness personally in his discord and having him in there, chatting with members of the watchmen and getting personal, psychic espeon, getting Bellas email and chatting with her then releasing what she wanted, "I wonder if Geno will feature me well in his documentary",

Hes basically a clout chasing turd who screams at people to not violate the prime directive, but then he's also mired in this shit himself and just really wants to not only get close, but involved behind the scenes with half the people in this community that he wants to claim to objectively report on.

Its really just dumb shit, but so is anyone who makes a living off of Chris chan
 
Are there actually people who haven't yet realized this guy is an absolute fuckup?
 
He seems to be fairly popular among normies who are interested in Christory for some reason
That's cause he explains Christory in concise normie vocabulary. Honestly when Chris' incest arc started, even though I knew quite a bit about Christory, I thought Gibi was a breath of fresh air since he seemed to have a lot of clarity and organization in his reports. Once he got to Bella though, his impartiality started to show and that's when everyone knew he was bullshit.
 
That's cause he explains Christory in concise normie vocabulary. Honestly when Chris' incest arc started, even though I knew quite a bit about Christory, I thought Gibi was a breath of fresh air since he seemed to have a lot of clarity and organization in his reports. Once he got to Bella though, his impartiality started to show and that's when everyone knew he was bullshit.
TBF, the Incest/Bella saga was a massive clusterfuck, because literally anything seemed possible. I think the biggest mistake a lot of Christorians made, guilty as charged, in all of that was that people wouldn't just let things settle before anyone decided to document anything. Doing that had led to so many different conflicting narratives about who did what and why. Plus, everyone involved basically ran off. In GiBi's case, he decided play kid detective, like what most of the ILJ board was doing anyway, touching shit while the Incest drama was reaching its peak, while basically parroting Bella's claims that she wasn't "Kelly Osborn", and acting like a total bitch towards anyone that disagreed with him on here.
 
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TBF, the Incest/Bella saga was a massive clusterfuck, because literally anything seemed possible. I think the biggest mistake a lot of Christorians made, guilty as charged, in all of that was that people wouldn't just let things settle before anyone decided to document anything. Doing that had led to so many different conflicting narratives about who did what and why. Plus, everyone involved basically ran off. In GiBi's case, he decided play kid detective, like what most of the ILJ board was doing anyway, touching shit while the Incest drama was reaching its peak, while basically parroting Bella's claims that she wasn't "Kelly Osborn", and acting like a total bitch towards anyone that disagreed with him on here.

It's a shame as I don't think Gibi makes terrible videos, but he completely fucked his objectivity over by stanning for Bella.
 
TBF, the Incest/Bella saga was a massive clusterfuck, because literally anything seemed possible. I think the biggest mistake a lot of Christorians made, guilty as charged, in all of that was that people wouldn't just let things settle before anyone decided to document anything. Doing that had led to so many different conflicting narratives about who did what and why. Plus, everyone involved basically ran off. In GiBi's case, he decided play kid detective, like what most of the ILJ board was doing anyway, touching shit while the Incest drama was reaching its peak, while basically parroting Bella's claims that she wasn't "Kelly Osborn", and acting like a total bitch towards anyone that disagreed with him on here.
Yeah, there was way too much information and misinformation to sort through at the time, it was easy to make mistakes. GiBi's main mistakes were trying to get personally involved by contacting/being contacted by Sean and Bella, and having a large platform to showcase how wrong he was.

In defense of trying to document things before it settled, I think it was important to obtain as much as possible as they were in the process of DFE and also trying to control and twist the narrative not only here but on 4chan and other gossip sites. Sure, we got some information wrong or jumped to certain conclusions too quickly, but if the alternative was to let the weens control the public narrative, hide their gayops and frame others, I still think it was the right call. From what I remember anyway, most of the mistakes we made were pretty early on, but once we confirmed Bella's identity we had a pretty good idea of what was going on.
 
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It's a shame as I don't think Gibi makes terrible videos, but he completely fucked his objectivity over by stanning for Bella.
GiBi to me always came off to me as "Speculative Christory: The Youtube Channel", the kind of person who reads off the CWCki or a KF thread, and then comes up with his own theories about why Chris drinks his own sperm or some shit. That was probably his one weakness in all of this, as he specializes in speculative Christory. His association with Bella was pretty similar, IMO. He ended up with a very messy version of the events that happened, because he was talking to people each with very conflicting viewpoints, and ended up presenting that.
 
I wouldn't say that it was speculation that did him in necessarily, but hubris.

There's ways to be speculative without being a retard.

"Here is what X thinks, here is what this person thinks, here is what I think and here are the reasons why".

He claimed to want to do this, claimed to want to "present all sides", but he did not do that.

His hubris was that, by virtue of being a popular "youtube christorian", he knew more than the people of this forum about Chris or the evolving situation.

He inserted himself into Christory, secretly, and surrounded himself with or tried to insert himself into the lives of people very partial to Chris (the Watchmen, Sockness, and Sean Walker).

When Bellagate happened, his hubris surfaced itself again, making him very, very vulnerable to being manipulated.

"I don't care what these forum people know, I have an insider source (who would turn out to be Sean Walker, unknown to him at the time) who is feeding me information that I can trust, fuck these random internet forum people".

Maybe GiBi shouldn't have gotten so close to people so close to Chris. Maybe anyone with half a brain would realize that information from these people would be compromised due to conflict of interest? But not GiBi, not with his hubris.

Now you can be speculative without fucking up, but he choose not to do this, even while repeatedly being warned not to. There was misinformation, unconfirmed things going on, and a relative amount of unknowns. I say relative, because by the time he had come in, ILJ was somewhat identified. He did not bother to read the thread, just the first few pages where Bella was trying to pretend to be Fiona, and then just went to Sean Walker for confirmation, and also emailed ILJ- because "I'm partial to better information than these people on KF have, Ill just default to trusting the inside sources".

What happened from that was people warning him that Fiona was not ILJ, to express caution there and to actually read the thread (which he didn't bother to do), and later not to publish her phone number (which he did multiple times, and seemingly not on purpose the first time- so imo this was not a "speculation move", you don't release someones phone number unless you are confident that they are involved),

and that people were also warning him that his inside source was someone close to Bella, and likely Sean Walker, which he dismissed entirely (What does this forum know? My friend is Connor, hes totally not Sean Walker, I can just go ahead and trust what I'm familiar with, who gives a fuck about these warnings).

GiBi was way too eager to release information before other people, and way too partial to too many inside actors, and his own hubris frankly did him in more than anyone else did; especially considering it made him conceited towards people on here legitimately trying to offer him advise on not leaking Fionas information or being aware of Connor/Sean Walker.

Part 2 of all this was, GiBi started saying that the reason why he fucked up so badly was due to the forum users on here, and not himself, and when getting called out for it online on twitter or in youtube videos, doubled down, starting a really autistic fall from grave that resulted in people getting more interested in him and his discord servers getting leaked as well out of curiosity over how he related to Sean Walker,

Where people then discovered, through proxy, that he was even more of an autistic retard, also had Sockness in his server, was trying to get into the Watchmen, and basically didn't give a shit about his fans.

Tldr: It was his hubris that did him in. If, at any point, he stopped doubling down and making it worse for himself, or actually listened to people on this forum, none of this would have happened.
 
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I wouldn't say that it was speculation that did him in necessarily, but hubris.

There's ways to be speculative without being a retard.

"Here is what X thinks, here is what this person thinks, here is what I think and here are the reasons why".

He claimed to want to do this, claimed to want to "present all sides", but he did not do that.

His hubris was that, by virtue of being a popular "youtube christorian", he knew more than the people of this forum about Chris or the evolving situation.

He inserted himself into Christory, secretly, and surrounded himself with or tried to insert himself into the lives of people very partial to Chris (the Watchmen, Sockness, and Sean Walker).

When Bellagate happened, his hubris surfaced itself again, making him very, very vulnerable to being manipulated.

"I don't care what these forum people know, I have an insider source (who would turn out to be Sean Walker, unknown to him at the time) who is feeding me information that I can trust, fuck these random internet forum people".

Maybe GiBi shouldn't have gotten so close to people so close to Chris. Maybe anyone with half a brain would realize that information from these people would be compromised due to conflict of interest? But not GiBi, not with his hubris.

Now you can be speculative without fucking up, but he choose not to do this, even while repeatedly being warned not to. There was misinformation, unconfirmed things going on, and a relative amount of unknowns. I say relative, because by the time he had come in, ILJ was somewhat identified. He did not bother to read the thread, just the first few pages where Bella was trying to pretend to be Fiona, and then just went to Sean Walker for confirmation, and also emailed ILJ- because "I'm partial to better information than these people on KF have, Ill just default to trusting the inside sources".

What happened from that was people warning him that Fiona was not ILJ, to express caution there and to actually read the thread (which he didn't bother to do), and later not to publish her phone number (which he did multiple times, and seemingly not on purpose the first time- so imo this was not a "speculation move", you don't release someones phone number unless you are confident that they are involved),

and that people were also warning him that his inside source was someone close to Bella, and likely Sean Walker, which he dismissed entirely (What does this forum know? My friend is Connor, hes totally not Sean Walker, I can just go ahead and trust what I'm familiar with, who gives a fuck about these warnings).

GiBi was way too eager to release information before other people, and way too partial to too many inside actors, and his own hubris frankly did him in more than anyone else did; especially considering it made him conceited towards people on here legitimately trying to offer him advise on not leaking Fionas information or being aware of Connor/Sean Walker.

Part 2 of all this was, GiBi started saying that the reason why he fucked up so badly was due to the forum users on here, and not himself, and when getting called out for it online on twitter or in youtube videos, doubled down, starting a really autistic fall from grave that resulted in people getting more interested in him and his discord servers getting leaked as well out of curiosity over how he related to Sean Walker,

Where people then discovered, through proxy, that he was even more of an autistic retard, also had Sockness in his server, was trying to get into the Watchmen, and basically didn't give a shit about his fans.

Tldr: It was his hubris that did him in. If, at any point, he stopped doubling down and making it worse for himself, or actually listened to people on this forum, none of this would have happened.

Gibi is a gay fag efame chaser. He wants the same recognition and respect in the community like Geno. However he breaks the golden rule: don't fuck with cows. A lot of his videos are rushed whenever new content comes out because he wants to be the first. Which is terrible reporting of only the lowliest of click baiters. Its his need for validation and ego that hurt people. In the end once Chris is gone what else does he have? Because by the looks of it the end times for christory are coming. Or at the least a long period of silence.
 
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Doing that had led to so many different conflicting narratives about who did what and why. Plus, everyone involved basically ran off.
For the biggest batch of retards in Christory, the clowns who literally ended it all forever, they did at least have the sense to run away from the giant clusterfuck they created.
Gibi is a gay fag efame chaser. He wants the same recognition and respect in the community like Geno.
He is the anti-Geno. Geno is actually the normie whisperer GiBi wants people to think he is.
 
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