💰 Grifter Devon Del Vecchio / "Dev" / ShortFatOtaku / @sleepy_devo - Degenerate loser, honorary whiteknight for Lilith Lovett, constantly at odds with his own viewers for being a centrist

[Tsukasa Kadoya]

American leftists choosing political violence would be the funniest way for this to resolve itself. Your political opposition is armed to the teeth, just waiting for a mother fucker who wants to try.

And this time they can't scurry away and beg cops to arrest their enemies

 

[Frag Tag Mini 3]

Holy fucking SHIT, I didn't know what current year Dev looked like. He's actually the fucking amerimutt goblina meme. Holy fuck. And his avatar is a smiling chibi with a full head of hair. Nigga looks like he's got cancer but somehow retained 300lbs.

He looks like he should sound like Mr. Plinket.

 

[Individualism Incarnate]

Holy fucking SHIT, I didn't know what current year Dev looked like. He's actually the fucking amerimutt goblina meme. Holy fuck. And his avatar is a smiling chibi with a full head of hair. Nigga looks like he's got cancer but somehow retained 300lbs. Physiognomy check on Dev vs Sargon.

He looks like he's Andy Ditch-maxing

 

[The Evil Midnight Bomber]

Since you actually used it, can you think of any reasons why it would be good for any sort of mental issues? Or are we correct in thinking Dev is either lying out of his ass or just addicted?

They tried to use it to treat depression around the time it was synthesized but realized very quickly that it just drains your brain of serotonin even further and makes you spiral even deeper into depression if you stop taking it, but also drives you insane and poisons you physically if you continuously keep doing it. If you take enough MDMA you can also induce very realistic looking visual hallucinations, too (another reason it isn't good to treat anything really).

 

[BigGuyOS 6 : Jovial Janny]

Found an interesting xitter clip somebody took from one of Dev's video game streams clarifying his take on illegals & the second amendment:
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Dev should become a constitutional scholar with such solid jurisprudential understanding there.

Dev is meanwhile continuing on his TDS-induced meltdown about all things right wing:
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Of course given he's spent a lot of the past couple of days arguing with his a-logs perhaps he was just bored and tried to provoke people with some Devonian bait.

This man says what I've all been thinking for a while now.

I wasn't aware of how much of a scumbag leftist Dev is for years because he doesn't share his Twitter or Discord opinions on YouTube except in backchannels. Why does Dev try to hide his communist powerlevel on YouTube?

 

[Bâtard Consanguine]

. Why does Dev try to hide his communist powerlevel on YouTube?

Because he knows he'll lose most of his audience. I was in the same boat as you, I watched his content for years, completely ignorant of his social media accounts because I don't use that shit, and once that illusion was shattered I unsubscribed. And it wasn't even Twitter that tipped me off, he let his mask slip when arguing with his own viewers in the comments of his videos.

 

[Radola Gajda]

I don't think that he's balding, I think he just shaved his head recently, guess we'll see how it grows back.

This is how he looked two weeks ago:

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

I don't think that he's balding, I think he just shaved his head recently, guess we'll see how it grows back.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ydM4eCWuz9EThis is how he looked two weeks ago:
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He should put on a Balldo, to hide that Norwood freakshow.

 

[Osteomancy]

Let me explain it like people explain black violence to normalfags:

If he has 100 videos shitting on wokescolds, then he has 200 shitting on right wingers. Because he hates them more. You can tell he hates them more because he continuously says Trump stole the election, and by simply checking Dev's nationality.
I do not believe someone like this is anything approaching a centrist (that is a bullshit term btw, read Carl Schmitt). He clearly favors one side over the other.
Do not be fooled. This man is not your friend. Also you should look up the definition of the words "meme" and "hyperbole".

Hope this helped.

I do believe centrists can exist, but they exist as centrists of a certain era rather than eternal centrists. The reality is there's just far more to shit on on the right nowadays as they hold the levers of power, create more change, and are radicalizing. This is contrasted by the left losing institutional power and attempting to moderate.

That used to be true of the left and that was a big reason why SFO shat on the left. I think he views himself as a moderating (and contrarian) force whose role is to hamstring whichever side is in power and implementing their ideology.

This is one of many reasons why the Friend vs Enemy distinction is too simplistic, it doesn't account for the degrees to which people can be a friend or enemy because they hold views far closer to you than your main opposition, it just paints them all with broad brushes despite it often being politically expedient to work with those people. Even in the most totalitarian governments their leaders understood the benefit of taking this gradient into account.

Holy fucking SHIT, I didn't know what current year Dev looked like. He's actually the fucking amerimutt goblina meme. Holy fuck. And his avatar is a smiling chibi with a full head of hair. Nigga looks like he's got cancer but somehow retained 300lbs. Physiognomy check on Dev vs Sargon.

@Osteomancy By the way, watch this clip. Dev's is an insane position born of radical leftist thought, or marxist interpretation of the Constitution, or some similar nonsense. This is why it rings hollow when he and his fans talk about "baiting the rightoids too". Because it's obvious that nothing goes on in that empty fucking head except endless platitudes and copes about how normal people have to suffer for the sake of third world browns who don't speak english and have no respect for the west.

Yeah this clip is retarded, but I don't think it's born out of radical leftist/marxist/etc thought, but rather blind contrarianism.

This isn't something he'd say or think when Democrats wield power. There just isn't a path of his opinions on immigration shifting to this, and he's repeatedly criticized third world immigration to Europe in the past.
If this was a genuinely held belief by SFO, we'd see a pattern of his opinion of the subject shifting over time, but no such evidence exists. Instead he jumps from controversial bait to controversial bait.

You overestimate the degree to which his most radical opinions are born of genuine conviction.

 

[FurbusCuckus]

So, I think we can all agree Dev is just far left now and ass covering for actually evil shit. Hey @ACE1918 here's one for a video

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Also my favorite reply to him. Not me btw, just a rando I saw.

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Just that he shouldn't say "ontologically" because the Stupids are gonna brush it off.

This man says what I've all been thinking for a while now.
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I wasn't aware of how much of a scumbag leftist Dev is for years because he doesn't share his Twitter or Discord opinions on YouTube except in backchannels. Why does Dev try to hide his communist powerlevel on YouTube?

Because he is keeping off what little Keyfab he has.

 

[Wodanaz]

Yeah this clip is retarded, but I don't think it's born out of radical leftist/marxist/etc thought, but rather blind contrarianism.

okay so you're a gullible naive tard. thanks for telling us.

 

[Osteomancy]

okay so you're a gullible naive tard. thanks for telling us.

Yes, if being naive means not taking everything at face value and thinking about it for more than a second, unlike you.

 

[Frag Tag Mini 3]

Yes, if being naive means not taking everything at face value and thinking about it for more than a second, unlike you.

Ok, explain the difference between someone agreeing with far left nut jobs because you honestly believe it, and because you're stupid and want attention. Because as far as I can tell it's all semantics, both are bad, and neither option should be tolerated.

 

[Wodanaz]

Yes, if being naive means not taking everything at face value and thinking about it for more than a second, unlike you.

I can't believe you didn't realize that I was just being a contrarian when I replied to you, that's not what I actually believe.
Congratulations. Your infallible logic - which you thought about for more than a second - instantly defeats itself with a rebuttal that I didn't even have to think about at all.

Thanks for contributing.

 

[Osteomancy]

Ok, explain the difference between someone agreeing with far left nut jobs because you honestly believe it, and because you're stupid and want attention. Because as far as I can tell it's all semantics, both are bad, and neither option should be tolerated.

We're both posting in a thread dedicated to this guy that is full of people sperging out over his most recent shit opinion, understanding his theory of mind is at least as relevant as discussing what Norwood stage he's at.

None of this is semantics because Wodanaz and I aren't arguing over definitions or the meanings of words, we're arguing over what we believe SFO's political leanings to be.
Wodanaz thinks SFO has become some dyed in the wool radical leftist/Marxist, I think SFO is simply being contrarian, and has always been a contrarian. These are not the same idea, none of this is semantics.

The difference is that it's worth understanding the motivations of someone you disagree with and why they say what they say if you care at all about political thought and proving that they are retarded and not worth listening to.

I can't believe you didn't realize that I was just being a contrarian when I replied to you, that's not what I actually believe.
Congratulations. Your infallible logic - which you thought about for more than a second - instantly defeats itself with a rebuttal that I didn't even have to think about at all.

Thanks for contributing.

I don't have a history of following your opinions so it would be impossible for me to determine you're a contrarian that quickly.
This example doesn't fit at all with SFO who has hundreds of videos which explain his politics, you can literally plot his political trajectory over time and see that there is no clear path to these retarded takes, which makes it obvious that he is being a blind contrarian.

Nice try though.

 

[Frag Tag Mini 3]

We're both posting in a thread dedicated to this guy that is full of people sperging out over his most recent shit opinion, understanding his theory of mind is at least as relevant as discussing what Norwood stage he's at.

None of this is semantics because Wodanaz and I aren't arguing over definitions or the meanings of words, we're arguing over what we believe SFO's political leanings to be.
Wodanaz thinks SFO has become some dyed in the wool radical leftist/Marxist, I think SFO is simply being contrarian, and has always been a contrarian. These are not the same idea, none of this is semantics.

The difference is that it's worth understanding the motivations of someone you disagree with and why they say what they say if you care at all about political thought and proving that they are retarded and not worth listening to.

Right, but we can't read his mind. So in the end we are left with the exact same end result regardless his motivations. The problem with claiming you understand why he's lying, is that by your own admission, he is lying. And so you're assuming you can tell what is and is not a lie. And your best claim I've seen so far is we didn't see his views twist to what they are now in a slower pattern as if he was changing his mind about things. Now, that's not a far fetched claim except, there are VERY large chunks of time that we (thank god) are not around him. And by your own theory, he's just lying for his own end goals (attention/trying to hold up some centrist thing). So for all you know, he has changed gradually and you just never saw it because just like he's lying now, he could also have been lying in the past and saying things he didn't believe back then for the sake of his own end goals (maintaining income/popularity/ viewers)

No matter how you slice this, the argument that he doesnt believe anything he says and is just doing it for the lulz is self defeating without some kind of better evidence to back it up than what is basically your hunch. Especially when there are other things going on, like him admitting to abusing drugs, that are way more likely to have lead to him saying and believing stupid shit.

 

[Wodanaz]

hurp durp he's just pretending to be retarded

there is no difference. again, read carl schmitt

 

[Osteomancy]

Right, but we can't read his mind. So in the end we are left with the exact same end result regardless his motivations. The problem with claiming you understand why he's lying, is that by your own admission, he is lying. And so you're assuming you can tell what is and is not a lie. And your best claim I've seen so far is we didn't see his views twist to what they are now in a slower pattern as if he was changing his mind about things. Now, that's not a far fetched claim except, there are VERY large chunks of time that we (thank god) are not around him. And by your own theory, he's just lying for his own end goals (attention/trying to hold up some centrist thing). So for all you know, he has changed gradually and you just never saw it because just like he's lying now, he could also have been lying in the past and saying things he didn't believe back then for the sake of his own end goals (maintaining income/popularity/ viewers)

No matter how you slice this, the argument that he doesnt believe anything he says and is just doing it for the lulz is self defeating without some kind of better evidence to back it up than what is basically your hunch. Especially when there are other things going on, like him admitting to abusing drugs, that are way more likely to have lead to him saying and believing stupid shit.

If we go by mindreading as the standard (I understand you're just using it as an example), so much is ultimately unknown. We have to at some point take a position on a person's theory of mind based on what they do and say publicly. There's really no guarantee that he is a contrarian, like how there's no guarantee he isn't an alien, it's ultimately just an educated guess, albeit a better educated guess imo than SFO becoming a radical leftist/Marxist.

My assumption is that whatever conflicts from his typical liberal politics is a lie. This same person regularly criticized third world and Muslim migration to Europe and has said on multiple occasions that White people's fear of becoming a minority in their own countries is understandable and the process should be stopped if it is the will of their people. For that same person to later say that illegals should be armed to prevent themselves from being removed from the country is nonsensical. All I can do is assume the baseline is the truth for him and the outliers are lies, it's actually normal to assume this.

I have not followed this guy outside of his youtube videos, so I'm definitely operating with less information than you are, it is possible his views have recently shifted due to drug psychosis or otherwise. But I think the chance he was lying about his views for years on end for income reasons (as we all know he had better stats in his antiwoke days) is zero or near zero. The biggest question is: Why would he stop? Because he suddenly gained a spine/morals? Lmao. Honestly, he was retarded not to go fully antiwoke classical liberal and at first, it's hard to understand his choice. If anything, it's an unusually principled act, not just because he's a liberal, but because he's above all, a contrarian.

His end goal is eternal contrarianism.

 

[Wodanaz]

His end goal is eternal contrarianism.

So he's an enemy to everyone and a friend to no one. Thanks for spelling out his specific political distinction.

 

[GameratePTSD]

Found an interesting xitter clip somebody took from one of Dev's video game streams clarifying his take on illegals & the second amendment:
qrqlysYgsw_JoMkN.mp4

Dev should become a constitutional scholar with such solid jurisprudential understanding there.

Dev is meanwhile continuing on his TDS-induced meltdown about all things right wing:
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Of course given he's spent a lot of the past couple of days arguing with his a-logs perhaps he was just bored and tried to provoke people with some Devonian bait.

If DSP shaved the goatee.