💰 Grifter Devon Del Vecchio / "Dev" / ShortFatOtaku / @sleepy_devo - Degenerate loser, honorary whiteknight for Lilith Lovett, constantly at odds with his own viewers for being a centrist

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Lunar Eclipse Paradox said:
Sounds are an emission from an object that spreads even if the object is motionless. I think being disruptive at a funeral even outside the boundaries would still be a punishable offense. There's a reason why sex offenders are not only allowed on school property but also not allowed within several meters of a school property. And how obnoxious would a funeral be is they let some jackass talk shit about said person even though their out of the boundaries but do nothing about it even if the attendees can still hear said jackass? Dev has no clue about what things could possibly go wrong.
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This is the issue I see. Dev approaches these issues from a purely LEGAL perspective; which is understandable when you're talking about how a government/social body with govt powers should act.However, this absolutely fails when it comes to human behaviors; where just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD do something, and many actions will have varying degrees of disgust and retribution by society.
Dev is right in a completely 'principled/legal/in a vacuum' situation, while failing on an interpersonal level. Given the same "someone is mocking your mother at her funeral" situation, he's TECHNICALLY correct that people should have the right to mock your mother, however if anyone tried to mock her at her funeral, you'd likely try to get rid of them or beat the shit outta them (assuming you didn't hate your mother.) And while there may be "legal borders" i.e. the guy may be thrown out of the funeral, but he can still mock her from across the street at a volume where said funeral might hear it, it is VERY different from 'social boundaries' which would be breached LONG before the cops got involved.
That said, I do think if someone was doing something like that, an argument could be made to the cops about being a public nuisance or targeted harassment or something.
 
The Fuck's Going On Here said:
This is the issue I see. Dev approaches these issues from a purely LEGAL perspective; which is understandable when you're talking about how a government/social body with govt powers should act.However, this absolutely fails when it comes to human behaviors; where just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD do something, and many actions will have varying degrees of disgust and retribution by society.
Dev is right in a completely 'principled/legal/in a vacuum' situation, while failing on an interpersonal level. Given the same "someone is mocking your mother at her funeral" situation, he's TECHNICALLY correct that people should have the right to mock your mother, however if anyone tried to mock her at her funeral, you'd likely try to get rid of them or beat the shit outta them (assuming you didn't hate your mother.) And while there may be "legal borders" i.e. the guy may be thrown out of the funeral, but he can still mock her from across the street at a volume where said funeral might hear it, it is VERY different from 'social boundaries' which would be breached LONG before the cops got involved.
That said, I do think if someone was doing something like that, an argument could be made to the cops about being a public nuisance or targeted harassment or something.
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Two things. I hate when someone uses the tenuous logic of being "technically correct" to disregard criticism of antisocial behavior. And I hate people who endlessly appeal to authority and discourage personal agency in solving problems like the one you elaborated on above.

Once again, the kicker is Dev has literally said before that you should take things into your own hands and exercise your freedom to react to bad actions from bad actors. He has now contradicted this belief, and thereby contradicts his own belief of what freedom is.

Contradicting yourself like this and not addressing it is how you destroy your own mental state and sense of identity. It's not like Dev is not aware of this. He literally talks about this at the end of his videos "People I Miss." So the inner contradiction is exarcebated several times over.

I think this is the root of why Dev is such a lolcow now, even more than when he messed with Metokur, even more than when he guntguarded for Lilith which led to the creation of his KF thread, much more than his countless personal entanglements and fallouts with associates, and much more than fencesitting screeds and countless verbal spats with fans on X. At the core he is a fractured mind armed with a shovel, and all he has left to do is to dig.
 
leave it to Cuck canuck to find most retarded position and then unironically argue for it.
I dont know what is standard overseas, but in Europe funerals , weddings birthday parties etc are private events. You are there, because people organising it invited you wnd tolerate your presence. And they can kick you out at any moment. Muh gubrmint has zero say if they kick you out for acting like piece of shit.
 
Radola Gajda said:
leave it to Cuck canuck to find most retarded position and then unironically argue for it.
I dont know what is standard overseas, but in Europe funerals , weddings birthday parties etc are private events. You are there, because people organising it invited you wnd tolerate your presence. And they can kick you out at any moment. Muh gubrmint has zero say if they kick you out for acting like piece of shit.
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Dev is pretending to be "enlightened" again so he can win an argument. I garintee you that if he was at a private event and Scrump or Ayden showed up, he would be throwing a massive bitch fit. This is just another example of Dev having no principals. Dev just wants to appear smart and above it all, but the moment it happens to him he would instantly turn into a crusader and attack his opponents.
 
I'm gonna UM ACKCHYUALLY you guys (but mainly dev); there are absolutely laws prohibiting the disruption of funerals. At least there are in the US, I can't be fucked to look up the laws of a third world shithole like canada.

It's mostly a state by state thing, but here's a few examples.
Illinois -
A person commits the offense of disorderly conduct at a funeral or memorial service when he or she: engages, with knowledge of the existence of a funeral site, in any loud singing, playing of music, chanting, whistling, yelling, or noisemaking with, or without, noise amplification including, but not limited to, bullhorns, auto horns, and microphones within 300 feet of any ingress or egress of that funeral site, where the volume of such singing, music, chanting, whistling, yelling, or noisemaking is likely to be audible at and disturbing to the funeral site

Texas -
A person commits an offense if, during the period beginning three hours before the service begins and ending three hours after the service is completed, the person engages in picketing within 1,000 feet of a facility or cemetery being used for a funeral service.

Missouri -
It shall be unlawful for any person to engage in picketing or other protest activities in front of or about any [church, cemetery, or funeral establishment, as defined by section 333.011, RSMo,] location at which a funeral is held, within one hour prior to the commencement of any funeral, and until one hour following the cessation of any funeral. Each day on which a violation occurs shall constitute a separate offense. Violation of this section is a class B misdemeanor, unless committed by a person who has previously pled guilty to or been found guilty of a violation of this section, in which case the violation is a class A misdemeanor

There are also federal protections against protesting a veteran's funeral. Also any laws regarding disturbing the peace, harassment, and noise ordinances could apply here as well.

So dev is just flat out fucking wrong. It turns out even in the land of the first amendment we recognize that being a disruptive cunt for the sheer purpose of causing emotional distress to people in mourning is not a valid form of expression and should not be tolerated.

The Fuck's Going On Here said:
Dev is right in a completely 'principled/legal/in a vacuum' situation, while failing on an interpersonal level.
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Dev is a quintessential pure-modernist. Nothing exists that can't be measured in his eyes. You can't measure human dignity and respect, so they hold no value to him. If something doesn't cause immediate physical harm to a non-consenting party, it is permitted. You can't explain the "harm" done by the person protesting his mother's funeral, so it's permissible.

The issue is, and I think this is a major contributor to why he has garnered so much contempt, no one believes dev actually thinks this way. I do not believe for a second that if dev was actually facing someone disrupting his mother's funeral, that he would just sit there smugly declaring how it's within the protestor's free speech. He would absolutely be pissed off, as he should, and want them silenced.

It's apparent to everyone that he is just being a contrarian and taking these stupid positions for the sake of being smug/technically correct/starting fights/faux-centrism or whatever stupid motivation is bouncing around his fat dome. He can't be genuine person for a single post, and it's exhausting.

Btw kill yourself dev.
 
Kermit Jizz said:
Dev is a quintessential pure-modernist. Nothing exists that can't be measured in his eyes. You can't measure human dignity and respect, so they hold no value to him. If something doesn't cause immediate physical harm to a non-consenting party, it is permitted. You can't explain the "harm" done by the person protesting his mother's funeral, so it's permissible.
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He thinks people should be required by law to respect the tranny pronouns because they are owed you debasing yourself to prop up their façade.
 
BigGuyOS 6 : Jovial Janny said:
He thinks people should be required by law to respect the tranny pronouns because they are owed you debasing yourself to prop up their façade.
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Does he really believe it should be legally enforced? I've never seen him say that, and a quick search on his youtube turns up a couple videos saying you shouldn't be forced to comply with pronouns.

I wouldn't be shocked if he's flipped on that position, I just haven't seen it.
 
Devrot Time.....yay:

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''No i dont have TDS, you have TDSDS GIGACHeeeee''

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You just got a hard-on for ugly like you, eh Dev?

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Kermit Jizz said:
Does he really believe it should be legally enforced? I've never seen him say that, and a quick search on his youtube turns up a couple videos saying you shouldn't be forced to comply with pronouns.

I wouldn't be shocked if he's flipped on that position, I just haven't seen it.
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I don't know if he's said it directly, but all his arguments lead me to that conclusion. At the very least, I'm sure he'd defend compelled pronoun respecting if it were mandatory because:
1.) Dev has a proven track record of gunt guarding trannies.
2.) Dev is Canadian.
3.) Dev says using transgender pronouns is "basic human decency"
4.) As shown in the above funeral example, and dozens of other times such as with Pikamee, Corey Comperatore, etc, Dev lacks a traditional view of basic human decency and instead believes the government is the arbiter of what is ethical or not by passing laws to make things legal and illegal.
5.) Thus, for Dev something is only immoral or unethical if it is illegal.
6.) We know Dev thinks "misgendering" is immoral, so we can assume based on his statist framework above that he thinks it should be illegal in some or all contexts.
 
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I'm still very curious about where things stand between Dev and Lilith. He's still simping but there never seems to be any direct interaction between them. Rather it's an endless circus of quote tweeting and replying. Worse, Lilith never seems to address him with anything more than mild condescension. Perhaps they're still on good terms privately but I'm doubtful. Either way it's incredibly pathetic watching Dev simp like this. He wants that trooncock up his ass so bad yet he's got nothing to show for it but a long history of seething online.
 
FurbusCuckus said:
Devrot Time.....yay:

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''No i dont have TDS, you have TDSDS GIGACHeeeee''

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You just got a hard-on for ugly like you, eh Dev?

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Okay Dev but if you’re gonna base a character off Ripley why pick one of the shitty Ripley movies? Like Alien and Aliens Ripley is right there to base a character off of and she’s way cooler than bald Ripley. Also anything from recent Naughty Dog deserves to be openly mocked, so playing contrarian over it is super retarded.
 
FurbusCuckus said:
Sargon and Bearing already covered this and even they did better.
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Hell, I'd rather watch the JLongBone stream covering this. She did a stellar job covering the Destiny Discord leaks, overall great at streaming as well as edited content, unlike Dev
 
So I just watched it and I notice the most classic of Devisms. He points out how absolutely fucking destroyed alt-tech trying to provide niches to right wingers like Parler and Gab were sabotaged, and then pivots to BlueSky and tries to claim it is gonna suffer the same fate because.... it just will ok?

Like seriously, he perfectly lays out how fucking bad things got and how much pressure and sabotage right wingers and non-progressives had to deal with and then just sorta says "I think the exact same thing will happen to BlueSky" without any proof. At no point he addresses the institutional pressure. He doesn't even seem to realize that the media which put out hit pieces on Gab and Gettr did it out of political reasons and that is why BlueSky is only getting "attacked" in the same way by right wingers jokingly repeating the headlines with the names swapped.

This nigger literally read Gramsci. He has literally seen this time and time again. This leaf has laid out the proof in this very video and still REFUSES to admit it.
 
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