Destiny 2 - Place your bets on how many $40 DLC packs we'll get this time.

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King Dead said:
And even then, what could they possibly deliver that would make such a delay worth it?
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My guess is that they have the entire studio focused on Marathon to make sure that the launch goes well.
 
I played The Taken King in the ps3 a looooong time ago. Two years ago I decided to try out Destiny two, and was immediately thrown into some mission with no rhyme or reason, had a bunch of pop ups for digital currency, was overloaded with a bazillion different gamemodes. And one of the missions there were two half naked homos in Venus???

Like genuinely, I wouldn't say D1 was that great, but this shit is unrecognizable. Even just reading the thread I have no clue half of what you guys are talking about when discussing the story. I heard Oryx was a dyke all along? There's so much sensory overload with no way to catch up, I'm clueless. How a brand new player could ever hope to get into D2 at this point is beyond me. The barrier to entry is somehow even higher than Yugioh. FUCKING YUGIOH!!!
 
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The way dmg says this comes off the same as someone getting ready to tell their kid that they have to put the dog down. I think destiny might really die.
 
Bungie itself is probably going to die with how Marathon is bleeding players and how Sony is in studio kill mode.

It's a shame, this franchise had so much potential but Bungie squandered it all and now they've flushed it down the shitter for a niche extraction shooter that's pulling like 40k players a day.
 
Blackstar said:
I haven't played since Heresy. I felt like I got closure and could finally stop playing the game during it. From time to time I remember how I used to have fun on D2 but then I remember that it's no longer the game the it used to be :(
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Same, every once in awhile I see Destiny 2 in my Steam library and remember the good times I had with the game. Thankfully all I need to do is check the DLC page in the store and any desire to play it instantly vanishes.
 
Blackstar said:
I haven't played since Heresy. I felt like I got closure and could finally stop playing the game during it. From time to time I remember how I used to have fun on D2 but then I remember that it's no longer the game that it used to be :(
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The problem isn't just that it isn't the game that it used to be, it's that it is as well.

The core gameplay is still there and it's still fun to run around for a bit and kill some ayys with guns and space magic, that hasn't changed at all. The problem is that there's nothing new to do. Now that the Renegades honeymoon period has ended, there's not really anything to do to spice up the grind, especially since the Portal continues to make the majority of the game's content irrelevant. Doesn't hurt that they once again removed content from the episodes, even if a fair amount made its way back into the Portal already. I guess there's Guardian Games at the moment, and the return of Rushdown is welcome, but that'll be gone in a couple of weeks and most people have probably gotten all the rolls of the weapons they want by now.

The mid-season update was supposed to come out weeks ago, but it's not even scheduled until June, and based off of what we got with Ash and Iron, there's really not a lot of optimism for that to have much substance. Comms continue to be dead silent on almost everything related to future plans, including the roadmap promised half a fucking year ago, leading the community to meme their "we're jamming" line hard. All we have is the vaguest hints of what's to come, like updating old dungeons and raids to use tiered loot (oh boy, time to grind all that shit again!) and Pantheon 2.0 (good luck finding a group when the raiding community is all but dead). And obviously, if another expansion is even still in the works, it will be even more months before we see that.

Bungie clearly diverted a lot of devs to get Marathon out the door before their deadline, and for what? Marathon is a flop by any sane measure and Destiny is on life support. They killed their golden goose to shove an inferior product to market, and now they have two dying games on their hands. No wonder nobody's optimistic.
 
King Dead said:
Bungie clearly diverted a lot of devs to get Marathon out the door before their deadline, and for what?
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Contractual obligations. That's really all there was to this. On top of maintaining D2, they promised Sony in the purchase agreement that they would help produce/consult on 12 live service titles. Since that acquisition many have come and gone. Concord was one of them, Marathon was one of the last and there's one more coming soon that I forgot that's all but assured to be a flop.
King Dead said:
Marathon is a flop by any sane measure and Destiny is on life support. They killed their golden goose to shove an inferior product to market, and now they have two dying games on their hands.
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Marathon is a flop and it's going to need to be buried likely soon but it didn't kill destiny, that's 100% on Bungo for not mishandling their best IP. Between destiny 1/2 I have put in around 9000H and have done everything there is to do in both, just for perspective. Bungie needed to keep to the original idea of destiny being a trilogy, a new title every 3 years would have kept content feeling fresh while consistently allowing entry points for new players. Then the first delay of D2 happened and Bungie's huberous really started to show. Despite the raving and love for what the AoT did, they learned nothing and launched D2 with:
>Static rolls
>Decreased movement speed
>Neutered supers
>Double primaries
>No factions
>No artifact
>Day one eververse
>Folk your lore(chuds)
When forsaken launched my clan was optimistic, thinking that it would be a new starting point for destiny 2. In reality that should have been the last D2 expansion followed by a new AoT and eventually a D3 built fresh upon what they had learned. But they doubled down instead, determined to "fix" destiny 2 to make it what it should have been. What follows is years of ups and downs:
>Mixed expansions/seasons
>Entire campaigns removed
>Sunsetting/DCV
>Un-vaulting
>New supers are OP->nerf->OP->nerf loop
>Entire systems added, neglected, and removed
>Beloved activities shot behind the barn for nothing
>Inconsistent identity, is destiny its own thing or just an avenue to sell cross-IP mtx (a la fortonite)
>Light and dark saga over? Or just on pause?
I could write an entire dissertation on how Bungie fucked this golden goose from its hatching to its grave, and every misstep/failure that got them here. But you get the point. Destiny has been on a downward trajectory way before Marathon, because Bungie has NEVER committed to what destiny is supposed to be or even what they think it should be.
King Dead said:
No wonder nobody's optimistic.
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Actually despite my antagonistic tone, I'm pretty optimistic about the future of destiny. Much of the worst have been driven out of the company, never to return. And with Marathon finished, and a flop, I hope this gives Sony the ammunition needed to Nigger whip Bungie back into the cotton(destiny) picking(development) field. Bungie has stalled long enough because of their own stupid reasons. It's time to drag them forward like Microsoft did to them with Halo.
 
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