Defeners/Le 90s Kids

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Totally agreed, these were the points I was trying to make by defining them as regressive but I poorly worded my argument, so apologies. If anything deafeners are a poignant example of how we live in a time almost absent of a revolutionary youth subcultures, which I think is due in part to how the internet has arguably made all music mainstream by removing the boundaries of exclusion such as cost and location. I do still believe however that the development of deafeners is partly down to a reluctance of embracing progression in music, which follows a historical trend of hostility towards forms of dance music. Admittedly discussing how British music tabloids created a culture of "indie vs hip hop" in the late 80s / early 90s would have been a better example to base my argument on compared to the Disco Sucks movement due to the flaws which you correctly pointed out earlier.

I'm trying to think of newer subcultures that have sprung up and I'm coming up with obscure shit like sea punk and pastel goth and... whatever it is you call people who listen to vaporwave.

The rebellious subculture music has turned softer and less aggressive as rock music fans age.
 
What I never got about defeners is that if you want to appear cool with "elite and well-refined music taste," inaccessable and obscure shit (like Death Grips of Captain Beefheart or whatever) makes you seem a lot more cool and unique than bands your parents listened to. If these kids are putting any effort into this image, why not go that extra step?
 
Vaporwave? Sea Punk?

Oh God now I am the old man confused by young peoples' music today, how the tables have turned.
 
Vaporwave? Sea Punk?

Oh God now I am the old man confused by young peoples' music today, how the tables have turned.

Seapunk begat vaporwave. I actually find the concept of vaporwave really interesting, since the genre is entirely satirical. It's basically muzak for the cyberpunk dystopia we are all doomed to, with plenty of retro-futurism (80's and 90's specifically) thrown in for good measure.

It's like if Everything is Terrible were its own musical genre.
 
Seapunk begat vaporwave. I actually find the concept of vaporwave really interesting, since the genre is entirely satirical. It's basically muzak for the cyberpunk dystopia we are all doomed to, with plenty of retro-futurism (80's and 90's specifically) thrown in for good measure.

It's like if Everything is Terrible were its own musical genre.


As a fan of sci-fi dystopian settings and whatnot, that actually sounds kind of interesting. I'll have to do some research.
 
As a fan of sci-fi dystopian settings and whatnot, that actually sounds kind of interesting. I'll have to do some research.

I got you. Here's a sampling from probably the best known vaporwave album.


Really heavily chopped and screwed muzak turned into something you might hear in a futuristic grocery store while picking out your nutritional pellets.
 
"You don't understand me, Dad!" *runs into bedroom, slams door, starts blasting Donna Summer*
And yeah, there's some kid somewhere that's all "My school only listens to EDM like Tiesto and Daft Punk and I'm like DONNA SUMMER IS THE GREATEST DISCO SINGER EVER U PHILISTINES!"
Hahahahahahaha!

I don't know if I'd want to buy those kids a beer for sticking to their beliefs no matter how absurd… or just give 'em a smack upside the head.

If anything deafeners are a poignant example of how we live in a time almost absent of a revolutionary youth subcultures, which I think is due in part to how the internet has arguably made all music mainstream by removing the boundaries of exclusion such as cost and location.
Or it could be that, what with the modern prevalence of the internet in the mainstream, the current revolutionary youth subcultures are intentionally staying off of the internet so we can't readily spot them without looking beyond the internet ourselves. That's just speculation on my part, but given how deleting one's facebook page is becoming a thing among some kids these days, I'd say it's a possibility.
Admittedly discussing how British music tabloids created a culture of "indie vs hip hop" in the late 80s / early 90s would have been a better example to base my argument on compared to the Disco Sucks movement due to the flaws which you correctly pointed out earlier.
Yeah, that might have made more sense. And then there's that whole "indie vs. alternative" waste of time that got people worked up.

What I never got about defeners is that if you want to appear cool with "elite and well-refined music taste," inaccessable and obscure shit (like Death Grips of Captain Beefheart or whatever) makes you seem a lot more cool and unique than bands your parents listened to. If these kids are putting any effort into this image, why not go that extra step?
I think that if these defener kids actually bothered to put any effort into exploring music instead of just glomming onto pablum of the past they probably wouldn't have their own thread on a board dedicated to studying lolcows.

That being said, just because a particular work is popular does not mean it's bad, nor are obscure, hard to find things always good.

Vaporwave? Sea Punk?

Oh God now I am the old man confused by young peoples' music today, how the tables have turned.
Genres have you confused? Well if you have a few hours (or days) with nothing else to do there's always the Every Noise at Once comprehensive genre map.
 
So there's a subreddit, /r/lewronggeneration that highlights the idiocies of people who wish that they were born in previous generations so that they could listen to Queen and the Beatles. They call these people defeners after a rage comic
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These people are against "swagfags" and think that music went downhill in the 2000s.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/lewronggeneration/
does anyone have experience with these people? They're all over Facebook.

@1st pic

Looks like someone's on their period
 
I was really excited to see this thread updated but my dreams were dashed.
 
Wasn't the whole "90s kid" thing a joke at the expense of all the 80s nostalgia we had on the early 2000s internet, anyway? Surely there aren't people who actually do that?
 
Wasn't the whole "90s kid" thing a joke at the expense of all the 80s nostalgia we had on the early 2000s internet, anyway? Surely there aren't people who actually do that?

The only time I see people sperging about the 90s is with cartoons. I guess they have some merit there. But there are good cartoons in all eras. It's the fandoms that tend to be bad. Probably the same for music. I try to stay away from that because of creepy bandmate/bandmate fanfics and stuff like that.
 
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