Death Stranding - Hideous Kojumbo does it again

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I just realized that Kojima seems to have made a AAA Japanese post-minecraft Steam early access resource management game, sort of like Satisfactory.

edit: I obviously haven't played it but imagine this as a a free to play game, what they could remove from the game and sell to the player.
 
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Some pretty strong opinions in this thread, opinions regarding a game nobody's played.

Real talk the mundanity of this game appeals to me
I'm with you, I can't wait to spend 20 minutes planning my attack on a gorge.

Seriously, I really like pathfinding when I'm hiking, and this game looks to scratch that itch in grand fashion.
goddamn i love love love how these people literally fall in step with what fucking kojima predicted. they're in completely different camps unable to entertain different ideas only holding their own to be the absolute truth. Nobody is wrong, but nobody is right. Comfortable in their "truth."
I was gonna say, I don't think MGS2's message was that control of information is bad. My read is that it's a great idea that humanity will never allow.
 
I was gonna say, I don't think MGS2's message was that control of information is bad. My read is that it's a great idea that humanity will never allow.
And that's within your right. The AIs make some actually good points. People naturally vie for power and seek to control the flow of information. As information is a dangerous tool in the wrong hands. But if you have omnipotent ageless machine gods sorting through all the fucking detritus of useless memes for the betterment of humanity as a whole it sounds very compelling. That's why Raiden naturally disagrees with the idea of control, but once the illusion of his success is shattered he takes a passive tone in the conversation. As if he's slowly considering the idea.

Naturally, we as the player don't like this idea (at first) either, because we are the same as Raiden in this scenario. All of our perceived 'accomplishments' are the labors of hard-working people whose names won't be passed on. Working for our benefit in order to craft a satisfying experience. The reward for overcoming our trial is the realization that our accomplishments are hollow literally designed to be overcome. That's why most players see this as a bad thing although that's debatable because if we don't have agency then how do we exercise free will? It's one of the reasons why MGS2's message resonances so strongly to this day.

Snake (you could view his presence at the end as Kojima literally speaking to the player) tells us to make a choice as to what we want to pass on. It's a message about exercising your agency for what you believe in spite of that because the only things that succeed past us are our ideals or memes.

It's because of this that I'll always say that Kojima wants to present both sides and he wants us to make a decision on what we value. So when i see narrowminded people trying to put a definite spin one way or the other on his writing it feels as though they're completely missing the point. It's political fiction because it's fiction about both sides of the spectrum. I'm sure far smarter people can go into greater detail than me. As this shit is long and unreadable enough already.

Honestly though? I just don't want people to turn Kojima's games into blue and red bats that they can endlessly bash the other with. There's so much more thought put into them than the banal political baiting hamfistedly shoved into modern games for brownie points.
 
Honestly though? I just don't want people to turn Kojima's games into blue and red bats that they can endlessly bash the other with. There's so much more thought put into them than the banal political baiting hamfistedly shoved into modern games for brownie points.
But Kojima once took 3 pictures that had Che Guevara’s face in them so he must be a pro-communist revolutionary who eats gourmet food and hangs out with Hollywood celebrities
 
But Kojima once took 3 pictures that had Che Guevara’s face in them so he must be a pro-communist revolutionary who eats gourmet food and hangs out with Hollywood celebrities
Wasnt peace walker big boss inspired by che and the characters in that game dont stop sucking his dick and saying he dindu nutting?
Then again, they willingly followed an autistic retard who several people had to explain the boss will several times and he still didnt get it
 
There’s been some twitter drama shit regarding how “”””political””””” the MGS games and Death Stranding really are. Pictures like this have been making the rounds where the “heh, gamers” crowd is trying to insinuate that not only is Kojima political but he’s also a communist.



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EDIT: if you have to start treating the character who’s known to constantly lie and manipulate people and spew out bullshit to get others to trust him as the official mouthpiece of the creator of the game then you probably don’t know what you’re talking about

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Who the fuck is complaining about politics in Death Stranding? This shit is "old man yells at sky" levels.
 
Wasnt peace walker big boss inspired by che and the characters in that game dont stop sucking his dick and saying he dindu nutting?
Then again, they willingly followed an autistic exceptional individual who several people had to explain the boss will several times and he still didnt get it
Big Boss as a character was mainly inspired by Che but he’s also the main villain of the series who’s committed countless war crimes and human rights violations, so do the math. Kojima seems like one of those dudes who’s more interested in the legacy that horrible people leave behind even if he doesn’t agree with their philosophy.
 
Big Boss as a character was mainly inspired by Che but he’s also the main villain of the series who’s committed countless war crimes and human rights violations, so do the math. Kojima seems like one of those dudes who’s more interested in the legacy that horrible people leave behind even if he doesn’t agree with their philosophy.
IIRC from the metal gear art books, Kojima's focus was having his character be primarily interesting and their moral alignment was secondary. So he's going to have characters in there that he doesn't agree with personally but they exist because they're interesting and make for interesting interactions with the other characters. It's about as apolitical as you can get.
 
It's not specifically Nintendo it's Breath of the Wild.

>game with 5 years of development time
>series with 30+ year history
>had to have fucking Monolith and the Xenoblade team spend time to finish it
>gets fucking 10 out of 10's from the Movie Bobs and Dobsons of the world because they emotionally clapped when they recognized things


This is one thing I am not letting go because 72% of the game is fucking seeds (this is true btw). Literally the Nu Wars of gaming because it lacked the substance of what made the past games great and only had surface level bullshit. And they can make interesting open worlds because all the Xenoblade games had them including Torna, breath of the wild was not a good open world game. Even the BOTW DLC was bad while Torna was amazing and fixed the issues the base game had with gatchabullshit and too many meaningless blades.
Wait Torna fixes the gatcha shit? I might have to check xc2 out again.

You don't have to find jack shit. I've never collected the 100 feathers in AssCreed II. It sounds obnoxious and boring. I've done the same with countless games. It's optional content for a reason. You literally get nothing from finding the seeds, it's there for the absolute most autistic people so they can explore the world. Beating all the shrines to get the (very underwhelming) Wild set is the actual completionist sidequest. The Korok seed shit doesn't even matter, anyways, it's definitely not what factored into me considering BotW a disappointment. The overabundance of combat shrines definitely did.
Botw is basically zelda for not-zelda fans - as an intro to the series it is phenomenal, even if it gets ridiculously dull towards the end.
 
Botw is basically zelda for not-zelda fans - as an intro to the series it is phenomenal, even if it gets ridiculously dull towards the end.
Pretty much. I roll my eyes whenever I see people claim that it was an homage to the first game and getting the series back on track (as if every game but the first is just completely invalidated, what a joke). I don't remember the first game having underwhelming dungeons, Ubisoft towers and survival mechanics. Nintendo saw the open world survival game market was ripe and they dove right in.
 
goddamn i love love love how these people literally fall in step with what fucking kojima predicted. they're in completely different camps unable to entertain different ideas only holding their own to be the absolute truth. Nobody is wrong, but nobody is right. Comfortable in their "truth."
Of course they didn't understand that, they would of had to get far in Metal Gear Solid 2 to understand that.
 
There’s been some twitter drama shit regarding how “”””political””””” the MGS games and Death Stranding really are. Pictures like this have been making the rounds where the “heh, gamers” crowd is trying to insinuate that not only is Kojima political but he’s also a communist.



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These people are no better than Marvel consumers that do the soyface over the shitty dialogue.

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Does this fuckwit not realize that that pic is one of the most commercialized, ubiquitous images ever? Go into anyone’s closet and there’s a 1-in-3 chance there’s something with that face on it.
I was about to say, in one of those images Kojima is wearing a fucking Joker t-shirt. The dude's a pop culture nut.
 
Speaking of Kojimbo, is there anything about Yong Yea in this forum? or he isn't lolcow enough?
Dickriding of Kojima aside, the guy is too boring to be a lolcow. Unless someone uncovers his hidden stash filled with furry snuff fetish porn, I doubt he will get a thread here. He's like a tamer video game version of Mundane Matt and Quarterpounder without the drama and false flagging.
 
Kojima is a genius they said
He isnt a hack they said
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Feels good to be correct about this whole mess
 
Kojima is a genius they said
He isnt a hack they said
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Feels good to be correct about this whole mess
but can he be a hack genius
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Edit: As a side note I was going to play the game tonight but a project is running late so I got a really fun office meeting tonight. So fuck me going to have to wait till tomorrow to see this thing play out.
 
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