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Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
He definitely has daddy issues for sure. Professor Geek (I think) pointed out the lack of masculinity in his movies and it is pretty noticeable how much of a man child Peter Quill and Supes is. It's easy to get away with it with Starlord since he had no rep before, but Supes has Hank Hill vibes to him, which only makes sense when you've had a positive male figure in your life.
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Supes is really the worst character for that, he’s literally the son of two worlds and embodies the best of both his parents, in every world (not counting subverse modern alternate continuities) where Jor-El and Lara lived, they adore their son, despite him not having their scientific leanings.

Superman’s Earth father literally went too angry to die and saved his son’s soul from getting taken to the afterlife and is the true reason Supes came back after his playdate with Doomsday.

It wasn’t zany Silver Age shit, d-list characters or any hipster crap Gunn likes, it was a father standing his ground and embodying that “never back down” mindset he instilled in his son. It’s that sort of stuff that will be why Gunn isn’t going to direct another “solo” outing for Clark, because he was just a vehicle for the stuff he really wants to do.
 
Basic Blond Boy said:
Luthor is easily the worst part of the movie and I cannot understand all the YouTubers glazing him as peak villain when he is objectively an awful Luthor. He is the smartest man in the universe and believes heavily in image, yet leaves multiple traces of his villainy around from straight up killing a man in front of a crowd of people to almost destroying Earth. The man holds no subtlety to anything he does, which is a far cry from best Luthor, who, even when made for 7 year old children, was extremely cunning:
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I'm mostly disappointed in Gunn for giving us yet another goofy, cartoonishly evil Luthor.

Nicholas Hoult clearly has the talent to deliver a great Lex, and he did try. While Gunn’s version had the benefit of more CGI visuals, he really wasn’t that far off from Gene Hackman’s take—complete with the land scheme and the whole “brains over brawn” bit, and treating a girlfriend like trash only for it to backfire. Just with extra steps.

What makes it worse is that Gunn is friends with Michael Rosenbaum, a guy he’s openly praised as the best Lex Luthor. Yet he didn’t cast him, or even try to channel that same energy through Hoult. Hell, even something closer to Clancy Brown’s Luthor would’ve worked, if you’re going for a more sci-fi-leaning take. Both are still the best on screen versions of Lex to this day.

Yeah, we all know Luthor is jealous—but he shouldn’t just blurt it out like some cartoon villain admitting he’s evil. Lex works best when he truly believes he’s the hero of his own story, when he’s standing up for humanity ( in his mind), and when he’s a real threat—legally untouchable, dangerously charismatic, and convincing enough to win people to his side.

Clancy’s Luthor was great because Superman knew he was evil, but couldn’t do anything about it besides foiling him for the day . And the one time he did send him to jail, Luthor just got a pardon and nearly became president. Compare that to Gunn’s version, who throws a jealous tantrum and gets tossed in jail like a Saturday morning cartoon.

Gunn’s Luthor is dangerous becuase he has resources. But he is not the kind of villain you respect.
 
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XYZpdq Jr. said:
tbh there's been some Kamen Riders and other guys with weapon-ish hands
but yeah, that sorta makes sense in a "dumb exec misses the point" way

fun fact
According to Dan DiDio during development of Watchmen there was one exec who was determined to make sure The Watchmen had a robot dog as part of the crew
like, always bringing up "why not give them a robot dog?"
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This but unironically.
 
I've been watching some classic cartoons I didn't finish at that time, and it's telling how much stuff it was done back then that's literally impossible today: Batman Beyond today would have Bats replaced by an ugly, insufferable nigress that takes over the second Bruce dies (in fact, didn't that happen in the Batgirl show? I didn't watch it). Harley Queen can no longer be an abusive toy for Joker since women can't be submissive anymore, the wholesome and objectively good parents of Superman have to be subverted somehow, etc. I hate how low the industry has fallen (then again, DC has been terrible since the 2010s or so).
 
Newcomer 42 said:
Lanterns share a similar power set even amongst corps, the different ones could work as skins. Maybe the Blue Lanterns could work for co-op, but either way, these sound like expansions. Lastly, what about Lantern Batman? He's been teased since forever but never done much, if only because it would make things too easy for Gotham and take Hal's job.
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Batman was granted a Sinestro Corps ring during Blackest night, there was a really nice action figure of Sinestro Batman, but they never did anything much with it in the comics.

Batman with a magical weapon powered by willpower and the fear of his enemies would basically be a god, so it is for the best that it was kinda memory-holed.
 
Samuel Fuller said:
Batman was granted a Sinestro Corps ring during Blackest night, there was a really nice action figure of Sinestro Batman, but they never did anything much with it in the comics.
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That's the point. For some reason, this is a story that hasn't been written, except for that Elseworld of the 90s with Lantern Batman...
Samuel Fuller said:
Batman with a magical weapon powered by willpower and the fear of his enemies would basically be a god, so it is for the best that it was kinda memory-holed.
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Already done with the uber-edgy Batman who gathers an army of edgy Batmen for *reasons* to conquer the multiverse, there's an evil Lantern Batman already. So a Yellow Lantern Bats could be a fun backstory. It can't be worse than Absolute Batman, which tries too hard to be the 90s with modern sensibilities, the worst of the worst combined.
 
Newcomer 42 said:
That's the point. For some reason, this is a story that hasn't been written, except for that Elseworld of the 90s with Lantern Batman...

Already done with the uber-edgy Batman who gathers an army of edgy Batmen for *reasons* to conquer the multiverse, there's an evil Lantern Batman already. So a Yellow Lantern Bats could be a fun backstory. It can't be worse than Absolute Batman, which tries too hard to be the 90s with modern sensibilities, the worst of the worst combined.
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Look up the Sinestro Corps Batman DC Universe figure to see what he looked like, it was cool as hell.
 
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James Gunn can’t internationally sell an anti-Israel Superman movie will never stopped being funny to me.
 
Basic Blond Boy said:
It is also to prepare Kara for the shitty Tom King adaptation where she has lost all purpose and is a sad sack.
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Woman of Tomorrow is such garbage and it's popularity is an indictment on the capeshit genre as a whole. Literally all Tom King does is write sad sack ptsd ridden C-listers and ppl who don't know anything about the character (because he intentionally chooses C-listers) rave about how deep it is.

The greater a'tuin said:
That might be why he was the least relevant solo Robin.
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Not having any mainstream adaptations in decades will do that. Tim is/was the ultimate self insert, the fact that nothing of note happened in almost 100 issues of his run just solidified that and gave him a, "normal guy joins the batfamily" with Dixon and then, "become punished and badass" vibe that they heavily leaned into after Dixon left.

I very distinctly remember "Why we don't need Dick Grayson" think pieces from timfags in that now brief period between Identity Crisis and Dickbats when Dc was clearly setting Tim up a Robin #1 and Dick as chopped liver. Thankfully Morrison came along and ruined Didio and Johns plans.
 
Giga_Nigga_28 said:
Woman of Tomorrow is such garbage and it's popularity is an indictment on the capeshit genre as a whole. Literally all Tom King does is write sad sack ptsd ridden C-listers and ppl who don't know anything about the character (because he intentionally chooses C-listers) rave about how deep it is.
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From what I remember, people called it the "only good Tom King story" or at least the most tolerable one.

Just how bad is it? I don't even mind spoilers honestly, I wanna know if Tom surpassed his other bad stories with Woman of Tomorrow.
 
Giga_Nigga_28 said:
Not having any mainstream adaptations in decades will do that.
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Technically Tim has had some of the largest representation which is what makes his nothing character even funnier. He was a large part of the New Batman Adventures (I honestly remember him more than Dick), the most seen Robin in the Arkham games, the main LEGO Robin and at least in various projects like Young Justice, Gotham Knights and Titans. His costume is also the default Robin look between various incarnations.

The sad thing about Tim is that every adaptation clearly has little regard for him. The New Adventures mostly molds him to be more like Jason, he is a bitch in the Arkham series and LEGO Robin is practically interchangeable.

Giga_Nigga_28 said:
Woman of Tomorrow is such garbage and its popularity is an indictment on the capeshit genre as a whole. Literally all Tom King does is write sad sack ptsd ridden C-listers and ppl who don't know anything about the character (because he intentionally chooses C-listers) rave about how deep it is.
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Is Supergirl really a c-lister? She has to be way higher than that.

Main issue with Supergirl is that she has Wonder Woman syndrome where every writer seems to change everything about her. I don’t think she has a consistent character, and certainly doesn’t have a consistent backstory thanks to DC’s retarded last Kryptonian rule.

I personally see her as a character trying to create an identity for herself - getting out of the cousin’s shadow and trying to adjust to a culture she doesn’t feel a part of. In that she clearly has a bit of anger issues. She has a more punk rock feel.

In saying this, I am probably completely off. I personally view DC Superhero Girls (Faust version) as her best incarnation as she has a pretty fun personality for what amounts to a Rainbowdash copy.


Samuel Fuller said:
Batman with a magical weapon powered by willpower and the fear of his enemies would basically be a god, so it is for the best that it was kinda memory-holed.
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Until Scarecrow pulls up with a Sinestro Corps ring. I also hate how nothing that seemed to amount too for a concept all too fitting.
 
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