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albert the programmer said:
Game developers in China also have Genshin Impact on their hard drive, and don’t care for anything that Steam has to offer. Why still be beholden to Gabe and crew when their money making machine is right in front of them?

Plus with Tencent on their side (for the time being), this is just another unfortunate shrug from us North Americans that have to silently agree with them on not wanting censorship in our games, but still have to suck up to them in order to bring awareness to their country in order to get playtime over there.
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It's a shame even Tencent has no power in China. Xi Jinping has wrested full control of the cultural paradigm and he decided video games are poison to the spiritual wellbeing of a nation.

He's not wrong, but you know.
 
SiccDicc said:
It's a shame even Tencent has no power in China. Xi Jinping has wrested full control of the cultural paradigm and he decided video games are poison to the spiritual wellbeing of a nation.

He's not wrong, but you know.
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He's not wrong, but he's not right either, and it's a decision I'd rather make myself than have it be made by some slanty-eyed yellow devil on the other side of the planet.
 
AnOminous said:
He's not wrong, but he's not right either, and it's a decision I'd rather make myself than have it be made by some slanty-eyed yellow devil on the other side of the planet.
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I've always advocated for people to make their own stupid decisions.

Just so long as it's not on my property where I'd be held liable.
 
Steam is not a publicly traded company and if what's being said is true the only supposed way Steam gets back into China is if valve allows a handpicked CCP official to be on their company board.

It's going to be an interesting development to see play out. Especially if it happens again to another platform or company where China doesn't feel like it has enough say or control.
 
albert the programmer said:
Game developers in China also have Genshin Impact on their hard drive, and don’t care for anything that Steam has to offer. Why still be beholden to Gabe and crew when their money making machine is right in front of them?
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not only genshin, they have a lot of games that never make it to the west (and wouldn't work here, similar to how korean mmos need to be changed to even have a chance). they do care about steam and their games, however what the government cares about is the flow of information and stuff that comes alongside it.
 
albert the programmer said:
Game developers in China also have Genshin Impact on their hard drive, and don’t care for anything that Steam has to offer. Why still be beholden to Gabe and crew when their money making machine is right in front of them?

Plus with Tencent on their side (for the time being), this is just another unfortunate shrug from us North Americans that have to silently agree with them on not wanting censorship in our games, but still have to suck up to them in order to bring awareness to their country in order to get playtime over there.
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The death of one becomes the joy of another: Tim Sweeney and Epic.

That's just a joke but I could absolutely see China shutting down platforms they have little or no control of.
 
Seems to be a while that old horse of a topic wasn't beaten to death

Video Game Industry Struggles to Shake Sexist Attitudes​


Denigrating portrayals of women are common in popular titles, but a hit Sony game offers a glimmer of hope that things are changing.
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The video-game business has a long and troubled history of sexism and gender stereotypes. A round of scandals at multiple gaming companies offered a sad reminder that the industry has a lot more to do to fix its culture and, eventually, repair its reputation. But the situation isn’t hopeless. As a hit release from Sony shows, there is a big market for games that portray women as smart and resourceful actors rather than as pawns, victims and objects of male desire.

An incident at a conference about a decade ago has become the poster child for the industry’s cultural issues. “I love the fact you have a lot of very strong female characters,” a woman said to an all-male panel of developers from Activision Blizzard Inc., maker of megahits World of Warcraft and Call of Duty. “However, I was wondering if we can have some that don’t look like they stepped out of a Victoria’s Secret catalog.” A smattering of applause was quickly drowned out by a sea of boos. Instead of defending her, the developers ridiculed her suggestion.
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Despite an outcry at the time, the industry continued to struggle with hostile attitudes toward women. After Microsoft Corp. hosted a party five years ago with scantily clad female dancers on platforms, head of Xbox Phil Spencer was forced to apologize. More recently, League of Legends maker Riot Games Inc. has been sued for gender discrimination, while Ubisoft Entertainment and Activision Blizzard Inc. have let go several executives amid allegations of widespread sexual harassment. Yet amid these painful episodes, there are also signs of progress. In particular, Sony Group Corp.’s 2017 blockbuster release, Horizon Zero Dawn, shows that there is a huge market for games that don’t denigrate women.

Zero Dawn’s main protagonist is a female character who doesn’t look like a supermodel. Set in a post-apocalyptic time far in the future, the character, named Aloy, battles robotic dinosaurs and aims to stop a rogue artificial intelligence system from destroying life on Earth.

The game’s developers said they wanted to create a “believable and inspirational hero for everyone.” And it worked. Players loved the character and the game’s engrossing narrative and production values. Horizon went on to become one of Sony’s most popular games, with more than 10 million units sold.
The sequel, Horizon Forbidden West, is poised to be one of the biggest releases of 2022 after it launches in February. If successful, it should encourage other publishers to move beyond superficial female appearances and focus on better storytelling and game quality. The positive response to the title among female gamers on industry websites and social media suggests it might help bring more female gamers to console games as well.
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Characters like Aloy remain too rare among mainstream games. As a video-game enthusiast, I find it uncomfortable playing leading titles like Tomb Raider, Genshin Impact or Bayonetta, all of which feature female characters in skimpy outfits. But for now, gamers are stuck either watching sexist depictions of women or avoiding many of the gaming world’s top franchises. Of course, plenty of best-selling videogames don't rely on cringe-inducing portrayals, but familiar gender tropes of the damsel in distress and the use of overly sexualized characters turn up far too often.

One obvious path toward reform would be to improve diversity among those who create games for deep-pocketed developers. Earlier this month, Activision released a report showing that only about one-quarter of its employees were female, a share it said was similar to its industry peers. A prior study found that women are even more underrepresented in executive roles in the industry. It’s hard to imagine that some of the worst game-design decisions wouldn’t have been avoided if there were more female voices participating in the process. Reeling from its own scandal, Activision says it will do better and hire significantly more women within five years.

The treatment of women in video games, both behind the scenes and as characters within them, is nothing short of scandalous. Hopefully the latest round of outrages, as well as the example of Sony’s Horizon title, will spur publishers to change their culture. It’s well past time that they did.
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Video Game Industry Struggles to Shake Sexist Attitudes - Bloomberg

archived 27 Dec 2021 17:10:04 UTC
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tl;dr faggot journalist has yet to discover people do like pretty/beautiful characters in their entertainment media

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tae kim on Twitter: "I'd like to play top titles like Bayonetta and G…

archived 27 Dec 2021 17:10:42 UTC
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some good shit came out of twitter at least
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Judge Dredd said:
That's amazing. It's like a NPC that has never been updated since 2012.
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Because it's clickbait.

The article in question is supposed to make you respond and post it somewhere else to get people talking about it. By mentioning the article or having an opinion on what the author says, you have fed the beast.

Look at how many eyes on both sides are now trying to one up each other while also acting like each other's straw men, all because people think because it was published in a magazine which many feel gives it validity. If people get emotionally charged about a journalist having a stupid opinion, that means they still value the press because they feel the press is behaving incorrectly.

The press exists to be propaganda (and for the gaming press this is especially visible and has been for decades) if you really want them to go away, don't give them attention.
 
Judge Dredd said:
No it won't. What is based will remain based, what is cringe will remain cringe. What changes are the movements they're attached to.

Christian rap was cringe. Christian rap hasn't suddenly become based just because censorious busy bodies are now on the left instead of the right.

You're going to see a return to tradcon cringe and censorship. The only difference will be it's done in the name of "god, tradition, and to protect the children", instead of "society, progress, and to protect troons and minorities".
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"Tradcon cringe"?

"yikes they saved themselves for marriage and are not killing their baby"

How does this work exactly? Serious question.
 
>wanting to play Bayonetta and Tomb Raider without cringe and embarrassment
>also wanting to play it next to your parents

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Apart from disrespecting possibly the Bayonetta and Tomb Raider fanbases combined, while trying to then say that they’re not wearing the “right” clothing, this sounds more like a poser than an actual fan of famous fictional strong women with massive fan/sex appeal.
 
albert the programmer said:
>wanting to play Bayonetta and Tomb Raider without cringe and embarrassment
>also wanting to play it next to your parents

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Apart from disrespecting possibly the Bayonetta and Tomb Raider fanbases combined, while trying to then say that they’re not wearing the “right” clothing, this sounds more like a poser than an actual fan of famous fictional strong women with massive fan/sex appeal.
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Not only that, their outfits are still tame by comparison.

 
SSj_Ness said:
How does this work exactly? Serious question.
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If you think that is any different from this
Then you're out of touch, or lacking in self awareness.

Do you think that ageing thots, cancelled lefties, and ex-pick up artists are suddenly finding god, or is it more likely they're seeing the way current year politics is going and are jumping ship to keep their grift going with a new audience?

Did you find Law and Order GamerGate episode hilarious? What about Reefer Madness? If you think The Last Jedi is cringy pandering, do you feel the same about God's Not Dead?

From cancelling comedians for telling a joke they don't like, to going on the news and screaming about how video games will corrupt the youth. It's all the same.

If you want more examples, I recommend watching the Cinema Snob reviews of Pure Flix movies.
 
Judge Dredd said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=033FInn1wH8:13
If you think that is any different from this
https://youtube.com/watch?v=VtJFb_P2j48:12Then you're out of touch, or lacking in self awareness.

Do you think that ageing thots, cancelled lefties, and ex-pick up artists are suddenly finding god, or is it more likely they're seeing the way current year politics is going and are jumping ship to keep their grift going with a new audience?

Did you find Law and Order GamerGate episode hilarious? What about Reefer Madness? If you think The Last Jedi is cringy pandering, do you feel the same about God's Not Dead?

From cancelling comedians for telling a joke they don't like, to going on the news and screaming about how video games will corrupt the youth. It's all the same.

If you want more examples, I recommend watching the Cinema Snob reviews of Pure Flix movies.
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LMAO MY VAGINA HAS ITS OWN VOICE seriously who thought of this being a good idea
 
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Yes, this is the Culture War thread, but tonight we are all John Madden. This man changed sports gaming in a way that I don’t think we’ll ever see again. Even during retirement, he somehow managed to make EA Sports fun again.

Fast forward to today, though, EA is largely to blame for the downfall of this genre as a whole.

Though, with that said, John Madden is the perfect definition of “legend” through and through.
 
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