Culture Wars General - KiA Diet Coke Edition

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People were crying 5 minutes in after the game was revealed that Xenoblade 3 was censored due to the body suits and stockings.

Both sides can't agree on the levels of horniness. At this point i's just a game of horseshoe theory.

The one thing that's pretty obvious is that they're trying to adapt stuff from persona with the new summon systems.
 
Marissa Moira said:
People were crying 5 minutes in after the game was revealed that Xenoblade 3 was censored due to the body suits and stockings.

Both sides can't agree on the levels of horniness. At this point i's just a game of horseshoe theory.

The one thing that's pretty obvious is that they're trying to adapt stuff from persona with the new summon systems.
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Why do you have a problem with people giving a shit about artistic integrity and freedom?
At least they ain't the ones silencing those they dislike and calling them monsters like the left wingers do.
 
InsolentGaylord said:
Why do you have a problem with people giving a shit about artistic integrity and freedom?
At least they ain't the ones silencing those they dislike and calling them monsters like the left wingers do.
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Because games are programs and applications, they have a series of structured rigids rules and dependencies that have to be followed in order to work. None of the surface level stuff will even touch things like that.

Having working code is the number 1 priority, nothing that these people feel that is important is ever a page 1 priority. They miss the point of the medium entirely because they think it's a story telling medium. The Story is always dependent on the gameplay existing in the first place.

You really think people play games like HOMM3 because of it's story? Fuck no, take a look at the upgrade trees and unit stacking, that's what made it's turn based combat appealing. You could literally pick up anything like Hyperion and Rama and hear a better story from those than any game. Games routinely commit cardinal sins of storytelling by breaking the flow with things such as Sidequests.
 
InsolentGaylord said:
Why do you have a problem with people giving a shit about artistic integrity and freedom?
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Because they don't' care about it when it's something they disagree with.
InsolentGaylord said:
At least they ain't the ones silencing those they dislike and calling them monsters like the left wingers do.
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Nah, they just call them Coomers, Cucks, Soyboys, Communists, and Degenerates. Better?
 
MT Foxtrot said:
Because they don't' care about it when it's something they disagree with.

Nah, they just call them Coomers, Cucks, Soyboys, Communists, and Degenerates. Better?
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I don't see this happen that often though.

For real and many people use it ironically. I am not saying this doesn't happen but why does it make the left being authoritarian and power tripping okay?

And why is being called a communist so bad? I mean the left calls anyone they dislike a Nazi so why is that an issue? One sidedness.
 
InsolentGaylord said:
I don't see this happen that often though.

For real and many people use it ironically. I am not saying this doesn't happen but why does it make the left being authoritarian and power tripping okay?

And why is being called a communist so bad? I mean the left calls anyone they dislike a Nazi so why is that an issue? One sidedness.
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Pff, what are you stupid? Having expectation of integrity in our products instead of changing them to fit some arbitrary values is illegal now, you must accept whatever your betters tell you
 
InsolentGaylord said:
I don't see this happen that often though.
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You don't get around the internet much then.
InsolentGaylord said:
For real and many people use it ironically. I am not saying this doesn't happen but why does it make the left being authoritarian and power tripping okay?
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Care to point out where I said it did?
InsolentGaylord said:
And why is being called a communist so bad?
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Because communism is a trash ideology that belongs in the trashcan of history. Even as a leftist I acknowledge this.
InsolentGaylord said:
I mean the left calls anyone they dislike a Nazi so why is that an issue? One sidedness.
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I wish the right would recognize that as well.
 
Marissa Moira said:
Because games are programs and applications, they have a series of structured rigids rules and dependencies that have to be followed in order to work. None of the surface level stuff will even touch things like that..
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Every code monkey around the world had their jaw dropped when a statement like this gets uttered. Even with the programs and applications being utilized, it still does not change the fact that art can be compromised in a way that it does not allow leeway in business decision making to make it accessible to everyone outside of the U.S.

 
Ten fucking years we've had to listen to dipshits whine about female characters being "too sexy"

Ten fucking years.

Why can't these assholes get a new gimmick already?
 
Agent Abe Caprine said:
You really think people play games like Silent Hill 2 because of its gameplay?
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Survival Horror is like point and click adventures where the technology advanced so the old style of gameplay comes off as shallow or dated.

It's why Capcom revamped the resident evil gameplay and made it into a thriller because it's more proactive and fitting of how games have advanced. Modern horror games are more about actively keeping the the tension high through aggressive encounters.


For example having tank controls in this day and age would be a huge no no because everything uses analog sticks, there is no mechanical reason to have tank controls for a 3d game, because even 3d games that feature actual tanks would still control better.

albert the programmer said:
Every code monkey around the world had their jaw dropped when a statement like this gets uttered. Even with the programs and applications being utilized, it still does not change the fact that art can be compromised in a way that it does not allow leeway in business decision making to make it accessible to everyone outside of the U.S.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=_M9xxoAQD5w
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Those are all still very minor changes that don't hinder the player. Even Xenoblade X had cosmetic changes because the character was under age.

Xenoblade's problems have more or less been with scope. X had that quasi-online boss which was the only sane way to farm rare materials with tickets, 2 had like 4 different leveling systems for blades which were kind of useless and redundant and more or less existed to justify it's sprawl. Torna was probably the most refined in terms of mechanics because they kept everything smaller.

There's also the fact that PEGI ESRB and CERO still exist. Developers are going to need to abide by regional rules in order to get a specific rating and will make changes because specific brackets are deemed more profitable for circumstances. This is already baked into the part of developing a game since the 90's. Gust have already removed panty shots from their more recent games because rating regulations have gotten more strict on sexualizing young looking characters. They used to have the undergarments fully modeled with the included anatomy, now things are just a void.
 
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MT Foxtrot said:
Because they don't' care about it when it's something they disagree with.
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We already discussed that a few pages ago but I dunno why you still think people sticking to those principles to be an entirely alien concept
I will not necessarily be aware of cases of censorship affecting some categories of games I personally don't like, until I'm told about them. But my stance will remain the same as ever: censorship in games through fake puritan or "holier-than-thou" outrage is never acceptable. The same applies to comics, mangas and anything regarding artistic merit as well.

It doesn't matter if the changes seem negligible (which once again begs the question why they have to be altered in the first place) because localizers and game journalists will publicly show their incredible smugness and obvious agenda-pushing. Just like text translation too.
 
BananaSplit said:
We already discussed that a few pages ago but I dunno why you still think people sticking to those principles to be an entirely alien concept
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Because they fucking demonstrate it is one.

Do I need to remind you about One Angry Gamer? Reaxxion (RooshV's gaming website)?

BananaSplit said:
censorship in games through fake puritan or "holier-than-thou" outrage is never acceptable.
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Agreed, but it tends to get forgotten when something that censors certain other self-appointed defenders of artistic freedom's sensibilities and suddenly it's necessary to fight us "degenerates" or "Communists" or to "Protect the children".
 
Heracles said:
Why the fuck do game companies bend the knee to woketards don’t they know it’s like 1,000 women on twitter who don’t even fucking play video games. Can anybody in the industry explain why companies pander to these people?
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Women are the biggest consumer spenders by far outspending men by almost 15 to 1. Despite not playing video games or buying them game studios are absolutely obsessed with capturing this market.

They think that if they do they will have infinite shekels.
 
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Ruin said:
Women are the biggest consumer spenders by far outspending men by almost 15 to 1. Despite not playing video games or buying them game studios are absolutely obsessed with capturing this market.

They think that if they do they will have infinite shekels.
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There is not a single AAA game that my wife would ever play. Of all the women I know there is only one... one that plays anything remotely close to that and she likes animal crossing and Mass Effect. They love their cutesy little simple tablet/mobile puzzle games and you know what, more power to them, but the sooner these companies accept there isn't a snowballs chance in hell that your average (non-twitch tit streaming) broad is going to start playing Elden Ring or CoD the sooner we can ditch the pretense of catering to a group that doesn't exist.
 
Mega Man 2 Intro - NES said:
Where are there right-wing gatekeepers?
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The Quartering, ShortFatOtaku, Venger Satanis, Archwarhammer (though he may be facing some backlash for going in against Nick Fuentes in a tweet) come to mind. OAG and RooshV with the staff of Reaxxion as past examples.

Or do you mean games?

Ruin said:
Women are the biggest consumer spenders by far outspending men by almost 15 to 1. Despite not playing video games or buying them game studios are absolutely obsessed with capturing this market.

They think that if they do they will have infinite shekels.
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And they're inept at doing it outside of already mentioned casual mobile shit.

Heracles said:
Why the fuck do game companies bend the knee to woketards don’t they know it’s like 1,000 women on twitter who don’t even fucking play video games. Can anybody in the industry explain why companies pander to these people?
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Fear of missing out. Seriously. Investors (the real power behind all companies in 2022) are still under that mindset.
 
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