Joshua Wise & Stephen Boyd Cryzel Torture

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All things considered we were lucky that these faggots were complete re.tards and that they didn't immediately escalate to telling Chris to seriously harm himself with a knife or something.

At least if Chris gets put into a group home the people who donate to him for whatever reason could give it to the home so they can take care of Chris and he doesn't blow it on lego.
 
CWCissey said:
Besides, we're not advocating for a fucking asylum, we're advocating a group home where he's looked after (because Lord knows Barb won't do it!)
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I understand that, but I still think the same thing applies. Once you go in, you're not coming out. The real question is, will this actually help him, or will it hurt him? I imagine they're going to be taking a lot of his freedom away as well as the majority of his tugboat. When he realizes he can't buy as many toys as he used to be able to, can't use the internet as much as he used to be able to if at all, and if they do, he'll likely be monitored or have some kind of parental controls, I can't imagine that going over well, not to mention the fact that he'll be stuck with a bunch of slow-in-the-minds that he doesn't care for and elderly people. What's going to happen when they realize they can't control him? They can't release him back to anyone, so the only option is to ship him off to some facility and keep him controlled via drugs. But to bring this back to the group home, he's not like the others there who don't realize they're fucked or old enough to not give a shit. He's intelligent enough to be completely aware that he just lost all of his freedom.

CWCissey said:
The fact he's shown how easily he can be psychologically abused. That is a serious fucking danger to himself.

Shit on the floor or I'll fire the Death Star.
Punch yourself silly or I'll fire the Death Star
Smack your mother or I'll fire the Death Star
Burn your house down or I'll fire the Death Star
Go on a knife rampage or I'll fire the Death Star.
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Just like the fear of hurting Barb(or fear of legal consequences) made him pull his punches or even fake them, I'm pretty sure the fear of going to prison would stop him from committing arson and murder. Either way, this is an extreme case. No troll has ever fucked with Chris in this way, and he's been showing that he can be easily manipulated since the very first troll.

I think we need to keep in mind that anyone who tries to trick Chris into committing a crime is also going to be liable for the crime. If he ever goes on a killing spree and it turns out to be because some psychopath put him up to it, I guarantee you that the psychopath is going to prison as well. Maybe I'm just being optimistic, but I don't think anyone could convince Chris to actually kill someone or himself. Anyways, the fear of they themselves going to prison is a good deterrent for something huge like trying to trick someone into committing murder. Now, if Sonichu himself starts telling him to do crazy shit without being puppetted by psychopaths, that's when he needs to be locked up.
 
underscoredash said:
he's a danger to himself you exceptional individual
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So lock him up somewhere worse than a prison? Because if he'd get locked up anywhere it would be a state run institution and those are hell. They're almost as full of crazy people as prisons, too.
 
Stanky said:
I understand that, but I still think the same thing applies. Once you go in, you're not coming out. The real question is, will this actually help him, or will it hurt him? I imagine they're going to be taking a lot of his freedom away as well as the majority of his tugboat. When he realizes he can't buy as many toys as he used to be able to, can't use the internet as much as he used to be able to if at all, and if they do, he'll likely be monitored or have some kind of parental controls, I can't imagine that going over well, not to mention the fact that he'll be stuck with a bunch of slow-in-the-minds that he doesn't care for and elderly people. What's going to happen when they realize they can't control him? They can't release him back to anyone, so the only option is to ship him off to some facility and keep him controlled via drugs. But to bring this back to the group home, he's not like the others there who don't realize they're fucked or old enough to not give a shit. He's intelligent enough to be completely aware that he just lost all of his freedom.


Just like the fear of hurting Barb(or fear of legal consequences) made him pull his punches or even fake them, I'm pretty sure the fear of going to prison would stop him from committing arson and murder. Either way, this is an extreme case. No troll has ever fucked with Chris in this way, and he's been showing that he can be easily manipulated since the very first troll.

I think we need to keep in mind that anyone who tries to trick Chris into committing a crime is also going to be liable for the crime. If he ever goes on a killing spree and it turns out to be because some psychopath put him up to it, I guarantee you that the psychopath is going to prison as well. Maybe I'm just being optimistic, but I don't think anyone could convince Chris to actually kill someone or himself. Anyways, the fear of they themselves going to prison is a good deterrent for something huge like trying to trick someone into committing murder. Now, if Sonichu himself starts telling him to do crazy shit without being puppetted by psychopaths, that's when he needs to be locked up.
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Why do people think once you get in you never get out? You think the hospitals have that many beds they can afford? They want to fix people not keep them forever. And that's even if you want to take him to a hospital, instead of getting other forms of help in the outside.

Even in the hospital, they do let you out for walks and stuff. And lack of internet access? That can only help him from what I can tell, but I only know so much, just that it helped me.

Maybe it's because Mason implied people get out because you need people who care, well fine. Let's get people to start caring. Maybe that's what Chris needed from the beginning, and now is a good time to start. Because fuck bugger all, he deserves better than this.
 
Stanky said:
Maybe I'm just being optimistic, but I don't think anyone could convince Chris to actually kill someone or himself. .
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Not in those words, but I'm sure as shit no longer convinced that he couldn't be talked into giving Barb different doses of her medications or even taking them himself. Chris isn't capable of thinking long term. He talks about moving in the chat yet seems unaware that if he moved out Barb would be unable to afford to stay in the house. If you spun him some bullshit about how changing Barb's med routine would make her healthier, I'm not sure he'd question it. Likewise, if you told him her heart meds would make his boobs bigger.
 
Stanky said:
I understand that, but I still think the same thing applies. Once you go in, you're not coming out. The real question is, will this actually help him, or will it hurt him? I imagine they're going to be taking a lot of his freedom away as well as the majority of his tugboat. When he realizes he can't buy as many toys as he used to be able to, can't use the internet as much as he used to be able to if at all, and if they do, he'll likely be monitored or have some kind of parental controls, I can't imagine that going over well, not to mention the fact that he'll be stuck with a bunch of slow-in-the-minds that he doesn't care for and elderly people.
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I imagine he'll get used to it and thrive under the regimented lifestyle fairly quickly.
 
CWCissey said:
I imagine he'll get used to it and thrive under the regimented lifestyle fairly quickly.
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He never gets used to being banned from places, which is why he always keeps getting arrested when he tries to sneak back in. Now we're talking about essentially banning him from everywhere but the group home and wherever the group home decides to take him on a visit to. If he's not heavily drugged, he's going to be so miserable if this ends up happening.

repentance said:
Not in those words, but I'm sure as shit no longer convinced that he couldn't be talked into giving Barb different doses of her medications or even taking them himself. Chris isn't capable of thinking long term. He talks about moving in the chat yet seems unaware that if he moved out Barb would be unable to afford to stay in the house. If you spun him some bullshit about how changing Barb's med routine would make her healthier, I'm not sure he'd question it. Likewise, if you told him her heart meds would make his boobs bigger.
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Yeah, you're 100% right about that. I just really don't want the poor guy to lose his freedom. It doesn't matter what I want, though. I don't know what's best for him. Maybe he really does need a group home. I'd just really hate to see it end this way after all the bullshit he's had to go through his entire life.
 
Stanky said:
He never gets used to being banned from places, which is why he always keeps getting arrested when he tries to sneak back in. Now we're talking about essentially banning him from everywhere but the group home and wherever the group home decides to take him on a visit to. If he's not heavily drugged, he's going to be so miserable if this ends up happening.
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He got used to being Barb's bitch, he'll get used to this. He'll hate it at first but he'll get used to it once he eventually sees the benefits.
 
Tfw when you're even more sad than the internet's favourite plaything. The irony is that they think they're superior to their target.

Twats. I have feels. I hate having feels.

Edit: those of you talking about group homes....isn't something like that going to happen when Barb kicks the bucket anyway? I've only got the sketchiest view of him, but I can't see him having his shit together enough to pay utilities, taxes etc and maintain any property to city standards. And hoarded houses are usually wrecked, if he even bothered to clean out the hoard - isn't he more likely to, at best, shove it all in a couple of rooms and shut the door?

It's impossible to grab anything but an overview cos the CWC lore on this site is so massive. So sorry if dumb or already discussed, but what's supposed to happen when Barb snuffs it anyway? I gather Chris sees it as life just going on as is just without Barb, but how likely is that?
 
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Raging Capybara said:
People are scammed every day by bigger values than 6k, but nobody loses their minds because of that.

This forum is overacting too much, calm the fuck down.
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...and a subset of those people are mentally handicapped enough to be concerned about.

...and Christian is one of those people.
 
Raging Capybara said:
People are scammed every day by bigger values than 6k, but nobody loses their minds because of that.

This forum is overacting too much, calm the fuck down.
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Sure people do get scammed out of more money than Christine (See: the BitConnect cryptoshekel ponzi scheme)
But that's only part of the problem, Christine is getting outright extorted over this ordeal. Christine have a difficulty differentiating reality from fiction, Joshua exploits that woefully.
Save for the fact that these pathetic fucks had to pick someone on the lowest part of the chain to get their shekels and you got what we have today.
 
Stanky said:
He never gets used to being banned from places, which is why he always keeps getting arrested when he tries to sneak back in. Now we're talking about essentially banning him from everywhere but the group home and wherever the group home decides to take him on a visit to. If he's not heavily drugged, he's going to be so miserable if this ends up happening.
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That's because he is left to his own devices and has never faced any real consequence for doing so.

Look I am with @CWCissey on this one, Chris does need some kind of assisted living facility that he will hate at first but once they give him some structure and he adjusts it will just become the new normal for him. For his own sake and nothing more I'd rather we have a safe an happy Chris that we don't here much from than a miserable Chris who's constantly active online.
 
I'm not exactly sure what people mean by group homes.

Like living in a large home with others with disorders working together while a carer keeps an eye on them?

Or some kind of equivalent of a nursing home?

Or like an assisted apartment where someone with a disorder lives in their own apartment but a carer lives literally a button away and checks up on him

Or .....?
 
AnOminous said:
So lock him up somewhere worse than a prison? Because if he'd get locked up anywhere it would be a state run institution and those are hell. They're almost as full of crazy people as prisons, too.
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Anyway, some sort of group home would probably be the best option for chris in the long run. It's not heaven on earth, but he'd be taken care of and his life would have some recognizable structure.
 
AnOminous said:
So lock him up somewhere worse than a prison? Because if he'd get locked up anywhere it would be a state run institution and those are hell. They're almost as full of crazy people as prisons, too.
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And people like fucking Richard Jones are the tard wranglers.
 
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