Also, like others, i work with Autistic kids- some extremely severe to the point where they’re pretty much non-verbal. They’re not crazy, they have a learning disability and it’s not gonna get better
Technically autism is not a learning disability, it's a neurological disorder that can rob you of executive function, which is what we're seeing with Chris.
Remind me again, why he can't be both? There are some absolute batshit autistic people, and it's not a product of laking occupational therapy or support, autism just screws up your brain. There's tons of comorbidity with autism
18/04/20 23:41:38 <Joshua Wise> I see your mom.
18/04/20 23:42:04 <Joshua Wise> *Flicks the selector off Safety*
18/04/20 23:42:14 <Christine> You know I Will run right upstairs.
18/04/20 23:42:22 <Joshua Wise> Go ahead.
18/04/20 23:42:36 <Joshua Wise> 7.62 will just tear through your fat
18/04/20 23:42:46 <Christine> I Need Her Alive.
18/04/20 23:42:51 <Joshua Wise> Okay.
18/04/20 23:42:57 <Christine> Until After I am moved out.
18/04/20 23:43:04 <Joshua Wise> *Shoots Cryzel’s leg instead*
8/04/20 23:43:45 <Christine> And I did take the first step on that by taking with my friends about helping me find the new place to move to.
Lmao so Chris doesn't care if
Barb dies as long as it's after he moves out, which he's currently trying to do?
18/04/20 23:41:38 <Joshua Wise> I see your mom.
18/04/20 23:42:04 <Joshua Wise> *Flicks the selector off Safety*
18/04/20 23:42:14 <Christine> You know I Will run right upstairs.
18/04/20 23:42:22 <Joshua Wise> Go ahead.
18/04/20 23:42:36 <Joshua Wise> 7.62 will just tear through your fat
18/04/20 23:42:46 <Christine> I Need Her Alive.
18/04/20 23:42:51 <Joshua Wise> Okay.
18/04/20 23:42:57 <Christine> Until After I am moved out.
18/04/20 23:43:04 <Joshua Wise> *Shoots Cryzel’s leg instead*
8/04/20 23:43:45 <Christine> And I did take the first step on that by taking with my friends about helping me find the new place to move to.
Lmao so Chris doesn't care if
Barb dies as long as it's after he moves out, which he's currently trying to do?
Fucking dipshit directly lifted the first Cryzel torture scenario directly from Far Cry 4. He's about as terminally unimaginative as Chris.
I have to admit, though, I did laugh while reading parts of the log, but out of sheer bewilderment that Chris is actually taking this shit seriously. It's just so fucking ridiculous I can't wrap my head around it.
I was laughing pretty hard. Roleplaying as an anime girl on discord tormenting a Sanic recolor is legitimately the single most embarrassing way I can picture anybody spending 9 hours doing.
I'm going to repost my theory I posted at the end of the previous thread
I feel like elaborating on what I posted earlier. Some of my theories are pretty contrarian, so I'm wondering what @Marvin's thoughts are.
This is long as shit, but I'm tired and can't be bothered to edit it at the moment.
I really think Chris doesn't have more inherent mental issues than very high functioning autism; the majority of his issues (delusions, egotism, etc.) don't come from lack of treatment, but rather some actual "kick the autistic" and other shit going on throughout his life which would make anyone fucked up in the head.
Considering where he lives, as well as how apethetic everyone he knows was towards this incident, is it really too far-fetched to believe that people like Mary Lee Walsh and "Jerkops" were actually being even slight dicks towards him? And with his parents' indifference, he's pretty much only had himself to tell him he's not a total dumbass. If Chris inherently had a huge ego, why did he cry to himself in private instead of getting pissy and blaming everyone else right then and there for not receiving any awards at high school graduation, or getting kicked out of English class 3 years later?
Again, I don't think a lack of discipline and treatment made him what he is today. The Sweepstakes, if anything, probably helped his psych by giving him brief confidence and happiness.
Fuck, he could've actually been on the honor roll in high school. Do you people really think Bob gave enough of a shit about Chris to know about his merits? It's not super hard to get on a high school's honor roll, especially one in a redneck place. I believe his teachers played a large part in his shitty work not necessarily due to giving him undeserved grades, but due to being shit at teaching: this is a school that considered just playing Spanish PowerPuff girls dubs the majority of the time to be an adequate Spanish class. If he got decent teachers, he probably would've done decent work. I remember hearing in the Kacey call that he actually took the SATs, and I doubt he did that bad (like not outstanding, but at least 500 in both sections). Given how selfish his parents are/were, he could've done well enough in school for a good 4-year school but they backed out when they realized community college was cheaper.
Maybe the reason he "recovered" so quickly from all that shit in the old days was because he was already numb to being fucked over at that point.
By "help," I meant him seeing a therapist to fix his psych to what it could easily be, not like having a carer or anything.
I don't see how CWC in the late 90's and early 2000's would be such a burden for a more "geeky" person to befriend. He could've easily done better than those "gal-pals"; he doesn't seem to have been enough "out-there" for a semi-mature person to easily look past his quirks and talk about video games and shit with him. If he just had anyone who legitimately cared about him, he probably wouldn't have become a lolcow but actually have IRL friends who legitimately have fun with him (and not in a trolling way) and maybe a job in IT or something.
CWC could be the way he is due to isolation and actual "kick the autistic" he's received his whole life.
I left out a bunch of shit I forgot, and this is already as long as the bible, so anyone who actually bothers reading this shit should feel free ask questions and/or for clarification on things that are unclear.
and after that I posted this deleted paragraph
I also think that his hatred of men and championing of women came from the fact that the only people who even acted nice to him in his childhood happened to be female. Considering that he hates gays (doesn't need an explanation with the previous sentence), he may have started his "Love quest" when he really just wanted some friends because he recognized being "just friends" with women is considered gay. Consider how he wasn't promiscuous towards his "gal-pals" in high school. Maybe he's not actually trans, but wants non-romantic relationships with women without "being gay."
I was laughing pretty hard. Roleplaying as an anime girl on discord tormenting a Sanic recolor is legitimately the single most embarrassing way I can picture anybody spending 9 hours doing.
Also notice another thing. CWC went out to the gym for some time the day of these logs. These weeaboos sat around fapping to anime girls shooting up terrorists while waiting for him. There's literally an hour in time between the "Hopefully I'll never be banned Bye" message and Chris posting anything again.
They waited around for an hour doing essentially nothing of substance waiting to try and milk money from their victim.
For all the people complaining about "why is null suddenly a white knight", I should point out it's always seemed to me that the boundary has always been illegal behavior. Making fun of someone acting the fool on the internet and deflating over inflated egos is very different from using extortionist means to steal some tards SSDI money. For one thing that money is so a person unable to really function in our high tech society doesn't end up starving in a ditch, and for another that is my tax money and I dont like some asshole Canadian stealing it.
Fuck, he could've actually been on the honor roll in high school. Do you people really think Bob gave enough of a shit about Chris to know about his merits? It's not super hard to get on a high school's honor roll, especially one in a redneck place. I believe his teachers played a large part in his shitty work not necessarily due to giving him undeserved grades, but due to being shit at teaching: this is a school that considered just playing Spanish PowerPuff girls dubs the majority of the time to be an adequate Spanish class. If he got decent teachers, he probably would've done decent work. I remember hearing in the Kacey call that he actually took the SATs, and I doubt he did that bad (like not outstanding, but at least 500 in both sections). Given how selfish his parents are/were, he could've done well enough in school for a good 4-year school but they backed out when they realized community college was cheaper
This part is really interesting to me. I happen to know two different people who received no, or practically no, treatment for their autism until adulthood. Back during the school years it was really easy to think of them as intellectually retârded, but after interacting with them again after getting significant treatment, they actually do come off as decently intelligent. Not geniuses or anything, but at least average iq. So I've definitely been thinking lately that autism, especially that without proper treatment, masks innate intelligence. Doesn't mean much about naivete or suggestability, but I think that comes from the literal thinking and inability to read tone that is inherent to autism, rather than raw intelligence.
Edit: I should add that both of these remind me a lot of Chris. Not in the cowishness, but more in like emotional age (improved with treatment, however), interests, speaking style, dressing for extreme comfort - shit like that.
For all the people complaining about "why is null suddenly a white knight", I should point out it's always seemed to me that the boundary has always been illegal behavior. Making fun of someone acting the fool on the internet and deflating over inflated egos is very different from using extortionist means to steal some tards SSDI money. For one thing that money is so a person unable to really function in our high tech society doesn't end up starving in a ditch, and for another that is my tax money and I dont like some asshole Canadian stealing it.
Null has always been a moral fagg when it comes to chris for quite some time and its not a secret either, acting surprised null is gonna tell a-logs to take their autism elsewhere is like acting surprised water is wet
Like, jesus fuck, had I been around during the actual golden age of Chris (I think I joined right after the house fire, right before the site switched to Kiwi Farms), I would have thought the Bluespike and the PS4 destruction stuff was extreme, but this?
These are two seriously fucked up people playing a man with the mindset of an 8 year old like a stringed puppet for their own amusement and material gain.
Putting Chris into a group home where he's safe from these kinds of people probably is the best case for him.
This part is really interesting to me. I happen to know two different people who received no, or practically no, treatment for their autism until adulthood. Back during the school years it was really easy to think of them as intellectually retârded, but after interacting with them again after getting significant treatment, they actually do come off as decently intelligent. Not geniuses or anything, but at least average iq. So I've definitely been thinking lately that autism, especially that without proper treatment, masks innate intelligence. Doesn't mean much about naivete or suggestability, but I think that comes from the literal thinking and inability to read tone that is inherent to autism, rather than raw intelligence.
Enh, Chris was never exactly a bright bulb to begin with and his declining mental state to the point he believes he has actual psychic powers and can travel to CWCville at will suggests a weakening grasp on reality itself.
I'm going to repost my theory I posted at the end of the previous thread
I feel like elaborating on what I posted earlier. Some of my theories are pretty contrarian, so I'm wondering what @Marvin's thoughts are.
This is long as shit, but I'm tired and can't be bothered to edit it at the moment.
I really think Chris doesn't have more inherent mental issues than very high functioning autism; the majority of his issues (delusions, egotism, etc.) don't come from lack of treatment, but rather some actual "kick the autistic" and other shit going on throughout his life which would make anyone fucked up in the head.
Considering where he lives, as well as how apethetic everyone he knows was towards this incident, is it really too far-fetched to believe that people like Mary Lee Walsh and "Jerkops" were actually being even slight dicks towards him? And with his parents' indifference, he's pretty much only had himself to tell him he's not a total dumbass. If Chris inherently had a huge ego, why did he cry to himself in private instead of getting pissy and blaming everyone else right then and there for not receiving any awards at high school graduation, or getting kicked out of English class 3 years later?
Again, I don't think a lack of discipline and treatment made him what he is today. The Sweepstakes, if anything, probably helped his psych by giving him brief confidence and happiness.
Fuck, he could've actually been on the honor roll in high school. Do you people really think Bob gave enough of a shit about Chris to know about his merits? It's not super hard to get on a high school's honor roll, especially one in a redneck place. I believe his teachers played a large part in his shitty work not necessarily due to giving him undeserved grades, but due to being shit at teaching: this is a school that considered just playing Spanish PowerPuff girls dubs the majority of the time to be an adequate Spanish class. If he got decent teachers, he probably would've done decent work. I remember hearing in the Kacey call that he actually took the SATs, and I doubt he did that bad (like not outstanding, but at least 500 in both sections). Given how selfish his parents are/were, he could've done well enough in school for a good 4-year school but they backed out when they realized community college was cheaper.
Maybe the reason he "recovered" so quickly from all that shit in the old days was because he was already numb to being fucked over at that point.
By "help," I meant him seeing a therapist to fix his psych to what it could easily be, not like having a carer or anything.
I don't see how CWC in the late 90's and early 2000's would be such a burden for a more "geeky" person to befriend. He could've easily done better than those "gal-pals"; he doesn't seem to have been enough "out-there" for a semi-mature person to easily look past his quirks and talk about video games and shit with him. If he just had anyone who legitimately cared about him, he probably wouldn't have become a lolcow but actually have IRL friends who legitimately have fun with him (and not in a trolling way) and maybe a job in IT or something.
CWC could be the way he is due to isolation and actual "kick the autistic" he's received his whole life.
I left out a bunch of shit I forgot, and this is already as long as the bible, so anyone who actually bothers reading this shit should feel free ask questions and/or for clarification on things that are unclear.
and after that I posted this deleted paragraph
I also think that his hatred of men and championing of women came from the fact that the only people who even acted nice to him in his childhood happened to be female. Considering that he hates gays (doesn't need an explanation with the previous sentence), he may have started his "Love quest" when he really just wanted some friends because he recognized being "just friends" with women is considered gay. Consider how he wasn't promiscuous towards his "gal-pals" in high school. Maybe he's not actually trans, but wants non-romantic relationships with women without "being gay."
Enh, Chris was never exactly a bright bulb to begin with and his declining mental state to the point he believes he has actual psychic powers and can travel to CWCville at will suggests a weakening grasp on reality itself
I'm speaking more towards academic potential and intellectual capacity. You don't have to be that smart to get into state college, or, like FuckedUp said, small town high school honor roll. Basically just average. The whole falling for and believing in a fake universe thing comes from suggestability and being so engrossed in his own fantasies for so long, which came about as a coping mechanism (I posted a bit about this in the other thread) to deal with being fucked over so much by the people immediately around him. He doesn't necessarily have to be unintelligent to fall for this crazy shit, just emotionally broken and incredibly naive. Imo, at least.
I was laughing pretty hard. Roleplaying as an anime girl on discord tormenting a Sanic recolor is legitimately the single most embarrassing way I can picture anybody spending 9 hours doing.
Man, I just want Christine to be safe and happy. They were my first cow, and despite everything I've always had an immense soft spot for them. I'm horrified thinking of how they felt during all of this. They've never meant anyone harm, they're just a weirdo that does and says funny things sometimes. It's sad.
