Joshua Wise & Stephen Boyd Cryzel Torture

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Have you considered attempting to fight delusions with delusions? That is, on Chris' side. Still deal with the two individuals behaving criminally IRL, but it doesn't seem to be something Chris comprehends. I'm currently needing to catch up on doing my part with the Floraverse debacle, but consider what can be done in Chris' fantasies to mitigate the damage of the two people harassing him. If Chris is mentally a child, would guiding the narrative as you would with a child work?

For example, if you gave him some physical item and explained its use would nullify other-Josh & co's harassment, do you think Chris would accept it at face value? Something akin to the History Eraser Button in a positive light. A single-use item that can reset CWCville to its state prior to the involvement of the two malicious parties. I imagine it'd have to be reinforced that the item once given actually does resolve the issue, and maybe some other Kiwis could organize some counter-offensive on the evil moon base. I have no idea, and it all sounds ludicrous, but I'm actively trying to ride the line of ludicrous sounding things, as that appears to be what has worked for them.

This, of course, is all assuming it's hopeless to actually have Chris think rationally regarding his other realms, which appears to be the case.
 
Lupin The Turd said:
What I can't wrap my head around is how they convinced Chris that Sonichu, CWCville and everything else is real. I understand Chris is as gullible as it gets but surely he should have enough of a grasp of a reality to understand it's all his imagination, especially when based on pre-existing properties. Could someone please help me make sense of this?
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He already believed they were real (remember we're talking about the same person who believed binaural beats would make him grow boobs). They just exploited and reinforced that belief. In some ways, the surprising thing is that no-one's exploited Chris's magical thinking this brutally before now.
 
FFinfo said:
Have you considered attempting to fight delusions with delusions? That is, on Chris' side. Still deal with the two individuals behaving criminally IRL, but it doesn't seem to be something Chris comprehends. I'm currently needing to catch up on doing my part with the Floraverse debacle, but consider what can be done in Chris' fantasies to mitigate the damage of the two people harassing him. If Chris is mentally a child, would guiding the narrative as you would with a child work?

For example, if you gave him some physical item and explained its use would nullify other-Josh & co's harassment, do you think Chris would accept it at face value? Something akin to the History Eraser Button in a positive light. A single-use item that can reset CWCville to its state prior to the involvement of the two malicious parties. I imagine it'd have to be reinforced that the item once given actually does resolve the issue, and maybe some other Kiwis could organize some counter-offensive on the evil moon base. I have no idea, and it all sounds ludicrous, but I'm actively trying to ride the line of ludicrous sounding things, as that appears to be what has worked for them.

This, of course, is all assuming it's hopeless to actually have Chris think rationally regarding his other realms, which appears to be the case.
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We really shouldn't be damaging his sense of reality any further, as it is badly damaged enough as is and it is incredibly difficult to undo any damage done to him.
 
repentance said:
He already believed they were real (remember we're talking about the same person who believed binaural beats would make him grow boobs). They just exploited and reinforced that belief. In some ways, the surprising thing is that no-one's exploited Chris's magical thinking this brutally before now.
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Exactly, he’s been ‘talking’ to Sonichu for at least 15 years (Where in a heated discussion with Mary Lee Walsh regarding taking down his Love Quest signs he started to relay messages from Sonichu, I don’t remember any mention of it before then but it’s probally been going on longer than that).
 
Canned Bread said:
We really shouldn't be damaging his sense of reality any further, as it is badly damaged enough as is and it is incredibly difficult to undo any damage done to him.
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That's what psychiatric nursing guides all say, you're never supposed to support a delusion.
 
I know the farms are not an autistic illuminati and we do not make trolling plans. That being said, we are in denial if we refute we don't provide the ammo/tinder for trolling plans.

Still, can anybody suggest legal and safe ways for individuals to fuck with Boyd and Wise's life that would discourage further interaction with Chris (from would-be trolls) while also providing content?

I feel like we could find Idea Guy's own "Idea Guy"...i mean seriously, the guy is retarded as fuck.

P.S. stop censoring the R word on this site.
 
As @GethN7 said in the previous thread - the worst thing that can be done (this includes trolling,) is to get search engines to link to these pages. If the first search result for one of these 4 is a thread here, it's not a good thing as far as most people are concerned.
 
Fucking dipshit lifted the first Cryzel torture scenario directly from Far Cry 4. He's about as terminally unimaginative as Chris.

I have to admit, though, I did laugh while reading parts of the log, but mostly out of sheer bewilderment that Chris is actually taking this shit seriously. It's just so fucking ridiculous I can't wrap my head around it.
 
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dymphna said:
As @GethN7 said in the previous thread - the worst thing that can be done (this includes trolling,) is to get search engines to link to these pages. If the first search result for one of these 4 is a thread here, it's not a good thing as far as most people are concerned.
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Even that is only likely to have an impact for a limited time.
 
Lupin The Turd said:
You'd be surprised how many problems elderly genocide would solve.
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Kinda correlates to "gassing Jews will solve so much " chunking queers off buildings will solve so much,"killing Westerners will help so much, "killing all white men will solve so much", doesn't it? "Flushing turds will solve so much"... no, wait, that last one is true.
 
Canned Bread said:
We really shouldn't be damaging his sense of reality any further, as it is badly damaged enough as is and it is incredibly difficult to undo any damage done to him.
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THIS.

The worst thing you can do for a delusion is encourage it.

You are NEVER SUPPOSED TO DO THIS.
 
Lots of great commentary already. So, will be brief and touch on a few things I feel are worthy of deeper discussion.

Marvin said:
Now on the other side of things, Chris has experienced zero consequences from his magical beliefs. No one's punished him for them. In fact, if you try to argue with Chris about it, y'know what he says? "well, do you have any proof a parallel universe doesn't exist? checkmate atheists!" (not really, but basically that)
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Ok. Yeah, he'd kind of win there! But, why don't you ask him to take a video when he goes to toontown, whether when he is actually there, or just set the camera up and record him entering the stargate. What would he do if you asked him to do that to prove this place exists? If like these guys, Chris can be countered when he gives his excuse, surely if he won't or can't do it then point out to him its because it isnt true, or he is lying or whatever.

Like seriously, what do you guys and gals think he actually does or is doing when he is in that dimension? Does he close his eyes and sit there and just escapes in his mind? Or does he run around his room talking to everyone and acting out what he thinks in his mind? Or is it lucid dreaming? I dont know, I'd really like to see someone ask him to record when he travels to or actually is in toonverse and see what his response would be. These guys seemed to be able to counter him whenever he showed resistance and forced him to do stuff. Why can't same be done.

Marvin said:
I don't think they'd specifically try and get Chris to kill himself. I don't think they'd have the self control to keep it from happening though if that's where their next gay plan went.
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This is the more concerning to me. If Chris will believe anything these guys tell him, or for that matter some other psycho who gets in with him, I'd like to know what you would think Chris would do in the below situations @Marvin.

Say they tell him, Chris, if you take a cinder block and smash your mother's head in when she is asleep, you will find the magic crystal that will take you back in time and you can go back and be 9 years old again.

Or, hey Chris, there is a magic chemical you can get at a hardware store and if you drink it, Bob will come back to life.

How about, Chris, if you go to some bridge and jump off, Sonichu will appear in this dimension.

Or some other psycho shit that would harm him or Barb. Would he do something like that if these guys told him to @Marvin? It seems they got him to do a lot of bad stuff, just because they fucked his head up.

If you answer yes, then Chris needs not only serious help, but protection, whether it be like an autism handler or in a controlled environment.

I like laughing at Chris and his antics, but if someone manipulated him to do something like that, well that would just be tragic. And criminal.
 
GethN7 said:
THIS.

The worst thing you can do for a delusion is encourage it.

You are NEVER SUPPOSED TO DO THIS.
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We shouldn't be trying to do anything about Chris's broken psyche. It's strictly a job for the professionals.
 
neural said:
Coordinating harassment is not a good idea.
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Harassment is illegal, not cool. Coordinating it is bad too.

I'm just suggesting brainstorming legal ideas that the masses can read into like a wiki might get some results if Null can't get authorities involved.

To be clear, I'm not for anything illegal or coordinated (might be ok if legal) but I think there is legal information and resources for people to read that might result in actions that would make it difficult for Boyd or Wise to ever leave their parent's homes, which in 2-3 years could make them great sources of laughter;

"Remember those edgelords who fucked with Chris-chan and can't leave the basement now?"

"LOL, yeah Chris died 2 years ago, and they are still on social security. Karma."
 
LiveFromNS said:
Ok. Yeah, he'd kind of win there! But, why don't you ask him to take a video when he goes to toontown, whether when he is actually there, or just set the camera up and record him entering the stargate. What would he do if you asked him to do that to prove this place exists? If like these guys, Chris can be countered when he gives his excuse, surely if he won't or can't do it then point out to him its because it isnt true, or he is lying or whatever.

Like seriously, what do you guys and gals think he actually does or is doing when he is in that dimension? Does he close his eyes and sit there and just escapes in his mind? Or does he run around his room talking to everyone and acting out what he thinks in his mind? Or is it lucid dreaming? I dont know, I'd really like to see someone ask him to record when he travels to or actually is in toonverse and see what his response would be. These guys seemed to be able to counter him whenever he showed resistance and forced him to do stuff. Why can't same be done
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Chris doesn't believe his physical, earth body travels there.

Chris doesn't actively meditate or anything like that. He's just playing make-believe in his head. It's like ordinary imagination, except he just ascribes more meaning to it than any adult should.

He doesn't zonk out or anything like that. It's pretty much like someone believing that jesus is next to you, walking with you on the beach. Stupid hippie shit, except Chris is easier to exploit than your average dumb hippie.
LiveFromNS said:
This is the moire concerning to me. If Chris will believe anything these guys tell him, or for that matter some other psycho who gets in with him, I'd like to know what you would think Chris would do in the below situations @Marvin.

Say they tell him, Chris, if you take a cinder block and smash your mother's head in when she is asleep, you will find the magic crystal that will take you back in time and you can go back and be 9 years old again.

Or, hey Chris, there is a magic chemical you can get at a hardware store and if you drink it, Bob will come back to life.

How about, Chris, if you go to some bridge and jump off, Sonichu will appear in this dimension.

Or some other psycho shit that would harm him or Barb. Would he do something like that if these guys told him to @Marvin? It seems they got him to do a lot of bad stuff, just because they fucked his head up.

If you answer yes, then Chris needs not only serious help, but protection, whether it be like an autism handler or in a controlled environment.

I like laughing at Chris and his antics, but if someone manipulated him to do something like that, well that would just be tragic. And criminal.
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Chris has effectively joined a cult. The US does not usually interfere with cult members unless there's some serious, very specific shit going on.

Often families of cult members will get charged with kidnapping if they try to rescue their family members from the cult compound.
 
James Howlett said:
I'm just suggesting brainstorming legal ideas that the masses can read into like a wiki might get some results if Null can't get authorities involved.
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I think the standard "observe and report" lolcow policy is the only appropriate action for 99.9999% of the people here. This is an autism tar baby and pozloading my neghole will only pull you in.
 
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