Crusader Kings 3 - Its Crusader Kings 2 with a paint job

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What are the DLCs to avoid in CK3, and are there any must-haves? Trying to get back to the game this year, perhaps I'll even learn how to play it properly this time, I only ever played the vanilla. I was pretty good at breeding weird retards.
 
Swine Schwein said:
What are the DLCs to avoid in CK3, and are there any must-haves? Trying to get back to the game this year, perhaps I'll even learn how to play it properly this time, I only ever played the vanilla. I was pretty good at breeding weird retards.
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Roads to Power and Royal Court are essential I would say. The ability to play a landless adventurer with RTP opens the game up exponentially, and Royal Court gives the ability to hybridise cultures as well as some much needed flavour to kingdoms and empires regarding internal affairs, hosting guests, sponsoring artefacts, appeasing/aggravating minority cultures, etc.

Wards and Warden, Legends of the Dead and Tours and Tournaments give universal mechanical additions to every culture that bolsters your options for stability and buffing the realm and your heirs quite a bit. Iberia, Persia, Northern Lords, Khans and All Under Heaven are all very specific to certain cultures and regions, you can hold off on each of them until you find an interest in those regions specifically. I will say again Northern Lords turns Norse in to easy mode, you can up and migrate to any corner of the world, do whatever you like there and you will thrive.

The attire and cosmetic DLCs are ass. The Community Flavour Pack mod in Steam workshop does a better job.
 
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Sooty Soot said:
Wait, there are people who actually play this game instead of CK2?
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No we just talk about how much better CK2 is.

GGSurvivor said:
Been trying to get into CK3 (over 1000 hours played since launch) and I can't even bring myself to have it on my computer after the asia update. I think they actually killed the game in order to appease to the subreddit & china market.
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How did it kill it? You can still easily just play Europe and ignore Asia.
 
TheArtilleryman said:
How did it kill it?
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Paradox were already struggling to make popular European cultures and dynasties feel distinct within the limited scope of CK2.

They defacto gave up on that with CK3, and now that the map has been extended so much, there's no chance in Hell they're going to be able to give the various cultures, landmasses and kingdoms enough flavor to stand out.

And this is especially true with the glacial pace of content release of modern Paradox.
 
I'm trying to make Karelians the most badass people. Right now I have to kiss the ass of some Danish King-Emperor and serve as a little duke vassal in his glorious Empire of Scandinavia, but my bloodline is getting pretty fucking awesome.

One day our day will come. One day Karelians will be led to greatness by the notorious House Itkonen. One day they will all cower and tremble upon hearing our motto: Be Retarded
 
regalterry said:
Paradox were already struggling to make popular European cultures and dynasties feel distinct within the limited scope of CK2.

They defacto gave up on that with CK3, and now that the map has been extended so much, there's no chance in Hell they're going to be able to give the various cultures, landmasses and kingdoms enough flavor to stand out.

And this is especially true with the glacial pace of content release of modern Paradox.
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What is enough flavour? I play it like I'm the one creating the flavour with all the odd dynasties, cultures and nations I insert in to it. This might once again boil down to the point of CK3 being more of an RPG than a grand strategy game.

Swine Schwein said:
I'm trying to make Karelians the most badass people. Right now I have to kiss the ass of some Danish King-Emperor and serve as a little duke vassal in his glorious Empire of Scandinavia, but my bloodline is getting pretty fucking awesome.

One day our day will come. One day Karelians will be led to greatness by the notorious House Itkonen. One day they will all cower and tremble upon hearing our motto: Be Retarded
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I've finally established a foothold for Judaism in Arabia after many years of mercenary work for the Basileus and his son. Started as a Hebrew culture adventurer of Rabbinic faith, short sighted as Hebrew is effectively a dead culture and has no technologies or land. The main drawback was no seige engines.

Made a new faith, an offshoot of Rabbinic called Judaism, with Chosen People, Divine Marriage and Communal Possessions. Made EVERYTHING legal, withcraft is virtous, unrestricted marriage, polygamist, theocratic head of faith, pluralist, the works. Family is also a witch coven and claims direct discendency from King David.

The Abbassids fractured a few times, it is now The Arabian Empire ruled under a Mashriqi boy who I've converted to our way and helped to stabilise the realm with my OP army of camels and Greeks. I've now purchased Gaza and settled as a vassal count, working my way toward restoring Jereusalem, taking the Empire and moving in to Egypt, hopefully maintaining strong alliance with Easten Rome in the process (Basil I's son is in charge and he's still my friend). Orthodox Christianity and Judaism becoming the 2 major religions instead of Catholocism and Islam, why not.

On succession, I'm going to establish another offshoot faith of Judaism that's the same but with Pursuit of Power, Divine Marriage and Sacred Murder. No head of faith and righteous instead of pluralist, all for the sake of expansion, Jewish assassins basically. "Mitnakshim" it will be called.
 
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TheArtilleryman said:
Started as a Hebrew culture adventurer
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This sentence is a perfect "you had me at hello" equivalent.

Anyway, good job. You clearly understand a lot of the finer mechanics of the game and it's kind of exciting to know there are so many possibilities even if I'm still dabbling with basic shit myself. Perhaps some day I can do shit like that too, when I stop being retarded, but today is not that day.
 
I got murdered by the same forest-dwelling subhuman that my grandfather saved from a feral freak life. I'm glad my father was smarter, he maimed that fucker, took off his arm. I'm going to take away everything that one-armed retard has. Well I won't, as I'm dead, but my beautiful son will. THAT FUCKING WOLF BOY HAS STAINED KARELIA FOR THE LAST TIME
 
Swine Schwein said:
I got murdered by the same forest-dwelling subhuman that my grandfather saved from a feral freak life. I'm glad my father was smarter, he maimed that fucker, took off his arm. I'm going to take away everything that one-armed retard has. Well I won't, as I'm dead, but my beautiful son will. THAT FUCKING WOLF BOY HAS STAINED KARELIA FOR THE LAST TIME
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Never legitimise wolf boy. He will always become a pain in the ass for your real kids sooner or later. Also 9 times out of 10 if you get assassinated it's because of poor choice of spymaster, they can join and give massive success potential to any schemes against you if they do not like you. Prioritise someone with a more pleasant personality type (shown underneath their name) who likes you and also doesn't have the ambitious trait or claims to your main title (unless they are a very honorable and trustworthy sibling with +100 opinion, traits like loyal, honest, just etc.).
For example, if the highest intrigue choice for spymaster also has a personality like "Evil opportunist", the ambitious trait and dislikes you, definitely do not pick them. Look for the highest one that you are also confident won't kill you.
 
TheArtilleryman said:
9 times out of 10 if you get assassinated it's because of poor choice of spymaster
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Yeah I know but my spymaster loved me as hard as any heterosexual man could. Or then I'm thinking about the last guy, there's been a lot of them lately. But yeah I gotta keep a good guy right now, even with shit stats. I thought my bodyguards would've done something too but noooo, useless!

What the hell makes wolf boys angry and jealous anyway? He was like +80 and seemingly friendly. He even already had a duchy title I had no claim on. He was fine! Other than being a one-armed barbarian retard that is
 
Swine Schwein said:
Yeah I know but my spymaster loved me as hard as any heterosexual man could. Or then I'm thinking about the last guy, there's been a lot of them lately. But yeah I gotta keep a good guy right now, even with shit stats. I thought my bodyguards would've done something too but noooo, useless!

What the hell makes wolf boys angry and jealous anyway? He was like +80 and seemingly friendly. He even already had a duchy title I had no claim on. He was fine! Other than being a one-armed barbarian retard that is
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A bad cupbearer or food taster could have also exacerbated things. Just keep an eye on generally villainous individuals you notice at court, wolf boy must have had some traits or claims that caused the game to make him kill you. Hostile schemes work the same way for the CPU as it does for you: success chance relies on close confidants disliking you or having ulterior motives/ruthless traits making them willing to join. One or more people very close to your character acted as agents for the scheme.
 
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TheArtilleryman said:
No we just talk about how much better CK2 is.


How did it kill it? You can still easily just play Europe and ignore Asia.
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It was laggy without the Asia edition and it's now way worse. They also spent so much assets on that like the other guy said, at the expense of other things. I still haven't touched bureaucratic gov type or whatever, why add a bunch more. They should also add a feature where I can disallow race mixing and colonize parts of the world.

To your question of "when is enough flavor" or whatever: clearly there is a huge difference between say Iberia or Persia as opposed to India, Tibet, Baltics, Russia, Germany, etc. There's only so many times you can do the whacky adventurer playthrough. RICE does a bit, but still.
 
GGSurvivor said:
It was laggy without the Asia edition and it's now way worse. They also spent so much assets on that like the other guy said, at the expense of other things. I still haven't touched bureaucratic gov type or whatever, why add a bunch more. They should also add a feature where I can disallow race mixing and colonize parts of the world.

To your question of "when is enough flavor" or whatever: clearly there is a huge difference between say Iberia or Persia as opposed to India, Tibet, Baltics, Russia, Germany, etc. There's only so many times you can do the whacky adventurer playthrough. RICE does a bit, but still.
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You admit that you haven't touched the first big government type added (which is administrative btw but close enough), yet the game is lacking in ways to play? You need to play the new ways of playing that are added to judge that. Are they to wait until you finally get around to trying administrative before they add more? I've tried it, and every other one since, there's like 11 now though some are admittedly too similar. It's like many of you who dislike the features only feel that way from a hypthetical point of view.
Do you really mean that tribal, feudal and clan governments as well as western Europe in general need updating? Because that is true.

EDIT: As to the disallow race mixing and colonise other parts of the world, you could always do that and Asia expansion has kind of made it even more refined with a new cultural tradition called "Inward Perfection". Combined with Communal Identitiy, Isolationist, a fundamentalist religion and many other little ways to get opinion penalties from other cultures and religions, you can easily do what you wanted there. Then just transition to an adventurer lifestyle or migrate via legend if you want to colonise elsewhere.
 
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TheArtilleryman said:
You admit that you haven't touched the first big government type added (which is administrative btw but close enough), yet the game is lacking in ways to play? You need to play the new ways of playing that are added to judge that. Are they to wait until you finally get around to trying administrative before they add more? I've tried it, and every other one since, there's like 11 now though some are admittedly too similar. It's like many of you who dislike the features only feel that way from a hypthetical point of view.
Do you really mean that tribal, feudal and clan governments as well as western Europe in general need updating? Because that is true.

EDIT: As to the disallow race mixing and colonise other parts of the world, you could always do that and Asia expansion has kind of made it even more refined with a new cultural tradition called "Inward Perfection". Combined with Communal Identitiy, Isolationist, a fundamentalist religion and many other little ways to get opinion penalties from other cultures and religions, you can easily do what you wanted there. Then just transition to an adventurer lifestyle or migrate via legend if you want to colonise elsewhere.
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"the first big government type added" why should I play it, it's retarded. Maybe it's a skill issue on my part, but it's just not fun. Then you have the asia governments which are just reskins of stuff already added. Yes, I think tribal/feudal/clan govs should've been updated and we should've gotten playable theocracies/city-states before an asia extension. It's been five and a half years since launch. Maybe I will try what you recommend to finally get my west african boer kingdom.
 
GGSurvivor said:
"the first big government type added" why should I play it, it's retarded. Maybe it's a skill issue on my part, but it's just not fun. Then you have the asia governments which are just reskins of stuff already added. Yes, I think tribal/feudal/clan govs should've been updated and we should've gotten playable theocracies/city-states before an asia extension. It's been five and a half years since launch. Maybe I will try what you recommend to finally get my west african boer kingdom.
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Nigger you build yourself a very nice house and rig the elections that's all there is to it. You call yourself a fascist yet you haven't even attempted to save The Roman Empire. Sad.

Iberian struggle is a great launching point to colonise Africa if you get the domination ending and drive out the Muslims. Whole dynasty buff to faith hostility advantage among other things. Your aptitude for killing minorities becomes hereditary.
 
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