Culture Cringe! How millennials became uncool - They are mocked by gen Z for everything from their trainer socks to their mom jeans and selfie technique. A maligned millennial asks: how did we get here?

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Chloë Hamilton
Thu 8 May 2025 00.00 EDT

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Her right to a naked ankle is, in the end, the hill Natalie Ormond is willing to die on. Ormond, a millennial, simply cannot – will not – get her head around gen Z’s fondness for a crew sock, pulled up over gym leggings or skimming bare legs, brazenly extending over the ankle towards the lower calf. “I stand by trainer socks and I won’t budge,” says the 43-year-old. “The more invisible the sock, the better.”

A proclivity for socks hidden within low-top trainers is just one reason why millennials – anyone born between 1981-1996 – are now considered achingly uncool by the generation that came next: gen Z, AKA the zoomers, or zillennials. According to countless TikTok videos, other sources of derision for the generation that first popularised social media, millennial pink, and pumpkin-spice lattes are their choice of jeans (skinny and mom jeans are out; baggy hipsters are in); an obsession with avocado on toast (gen Z’s green grub of choice is matcha); their excessive use of the crying laughing face emoji (for a zoomer, the skull emoji indicates humour, representing phrases such as “I’m dying with laughter”); and the “millennial pause”, a brief moment of silence at the start of a millennial’s video or voice note, thought to be because – and this really does make them sound ancient – they like to check the device they’re using is actually recording. Millennials, typically self-deprecating, tend to join in, poking fun at themselves under the hashtags like #millennialsoftiktok.

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Avocado on toast … millennials’ green grub of choice. Photograph: Ekaterina Budinovskaya/Getty Images

All of which is to say that, in recent years, millennials, the former hip young things that once seemed so cutting edge when cast side-by-side with the out-of-touch baby boomers and the rather nondescript generation X, have become, well, a bit cringe.

I say this as an (uncool) millennial myself. Born in 1991, I, like many millennials, remember a time before tech took over: I didn’t get a phone (mobile not smart) until I was in my final year of secondary school; I wasn’t on Facebook – then a social media site populated by my friends, rather than my friends’ mums – until I was at sixth form; and remember when Netflix used to post out physical DVDs. But being a millennial hasn’t always been easy. We’ve been called lazy, entitled and overly sensitive. Older generations have, typically, ignored the reality of stagnant wages, student debt and rising house prices and blamed our apparent poor financial habits – and penchant for brunch – for being unable to get on the property ladder. But, I’ll confess, being part of a generation that felt so progressive compared with its predecessors, bridging the gap between analogue and digital, felt significant, essential, and yes, bloody cool, actually. It’s a shock, then, to wake up one morning and realise you’ve been usurped.

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Matcha latte … gen Z’s green grub of choice Photograph: Baoyan Zeng/Getty Images

Some millennials are digging their heels in, resistant to their new status; 37-year-old Lily Saujani feels particularly affronted. “It’s ridiculous. We have been judged by the younger generation who think they have invented everything,” she says. “But really, they are just wearing what we wore in our teen years.” Saujani says she first felt uncool when she was scrolling TikTok (an app invented by a millennial, incidentally) and saw that being born before 1992 was considered old. “There’s definitely an unspoken – but sometimes spoken – competition between the generations on TikTok. And yes, I do feel old when I’ve been on it,” she says, before adding, in a very millennial way: “But my dogs have gone viral a few times.”

In fact, much of the ire provoked by gen Z’s teasing is driven by a sense that the younger generation are merely jumping on a cool and trendy bandwagon built by millennials. “We paved the way for gen Z to be killing it on TikTok with our crappy Myspace accounts and MSN-ing each other from our university bedrooms,” says 41-year-old Lizzie Cernik, who believes millennials have a strong work ethic and are “tough cookies”. Meanwhile, Ormond – the trainer sock fan – set up sustainable family store Smallkind in 2019 and is keen to stress that gen Z, famously environmentally conscious, had their eco-friendly way paved for them by millennials who got there first.

But when did this discernible shift from cool to uncool happen? Cernik posits that the pandemic was the turning point. “Many older millennials (myself included) were coming to the end of our party era around the time of lockdown,” she says. “The pandemic accelerated that and when we emerged from lockdown, gen Z had taken over fashion culture with new trends.” Beauty editor and influencer Laura Pearson – who is 40 but claims she feels no older than 25 – agrees, saying she noticed an online shift during Covid. “The internet had been my space before and now there was this whole wave of new people with no experience or credibility being able to build careers on Instagram and TikTok.” Still, Pearson, who adds that she stays relevant by surrounding herself with gen Z friends, says she refuses to be defined by a word. “If someone is embarrassed by being called a millennial, they’re giving a word far too much power.”

Of course, generation bashing is nothing new – in fact, one could argue it’s yet another thing millennials invented, coining, in the late 2010s, the phrase “OK boomer” to dismiss attitudes associated with baby boomers. But, inevitably, this latest generational warfare, fought by the two cohorts most comfortable online, has a very public battleground: the internet.

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Dr Carolina Are, social media researcher at Northumbria University’s Centre for Digital Citizens, says most gen Z conversations about millennials being uncool happen online. Are, herself a millennial, suggests that the two generations’ different approaches to existing online is often what makes millennials seem unfashionable to younger people.

“Being online always means mediating oneself through an app or platform, meaning that real authenticity is hard to come by, even for those who claim to be ‘no filter’,” she says. “However, while millennials went through years of polished feeds and aesthetics, only showing our best highlight reels and caring about our online persona, gen Z seem to have settled on aesthetics that are a form of understated and chaotic curation. While some of these are great – for example, the ‘goblin mode’ rejection of anything polished – they are still aesthetics, and denying that pursuing them has an aim (content creation is a lucrative business and aspiration even for gen Z) would be disingenuous.”

When I approach my gen Z brothers and their friends for clarification on what makes millennials uncool (a humbling experience; apparently even my over-cheery message inviting comments was “very millennial”), one thing that stands out is the way in which we curate our lives. Selfies, for example. My generation takes selfies using the front-facing camera and a downward angle, the photographer’s face, large and grinning, in the corner of the shot. Gen Z, it seems, favours the back camera and the volume button, using the 0.5x lens option to create a wide-angled picture with the snapper’s giant distorted arm protruding from the bottom of the frame.

While millennial selfies have a certain gloss to them – a quick glance at my own album shows me and my friends leaning in, drinks in hand, stiff and still and self-conscious as we gaze at our own faces – those taken by the younger generation seem more joyful, more self-assured, more spontaneous, more intentionally unflattering. What’s more, the fact we still take selfies at any given opportunity (I’ve recently taken them at the park, at the pub, while breastfeeding, and mid-run) reveals something else intrinsically uncool about millennials. “Gen Z users seem to be embracing the chaos of our world a lot more, while also being aware of the harms of social media,” says Are. “The fact that millennials may still post a lot, or care about the way they’re perceived, or attempt to keep a professional or polished facade, may appear uncool to them.”

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Selfies, the gen Z way. Photograph: Stephen Zeigler/Getty Images

Maybe, too, the ribbing that gen Z gives millennials is down to our different senses of humour, driven by our lived experiences. While millennial humour is, typically, self-deprecating and relatable, gen Z are more absurdist, ironic, and meta. (Millennials would make a meme; gen Z would make a joke about a meme.) My 25-year-old brother puts gen Z’s edge down to a combination of factors: social media, a job market still feeling the effects of 2008, climate anxiety, ridiculous house prices, and a stream of negative and polarised news. “It’s all played a part in gen Z being not just more ironic and absurdist, but also more cynical and a bit angry. There’s a vibe of: if I don’t laugh, I’ll cry.”

Perhaps, of course, it’s simply that the mantle of cool has passed to the next generation and we millennials need to get over it. Sam Harrington-Lowe, the 55-year-old founder and editor of Silver Magazine, a publication for “the generation X-ers and beyond”, says generation X (those born between 1965-80) are “undeniably the coolest generation” because, she says, they don’t care. “The thing about being cool or not is about whether you care about it,” she says. “The reason why ‘OK boomer’ hits so hard stems from the delight in firing up a boomer’s outrage. It’s hilarious! And calling millennials uncool is shooting fish in a barrel.”

One millennial who doesn’t care and is – at least in the opinion of this millennial – effortlessly cool as a result is culture journalist and author Daisy Jones, 32. Jones, who studied at Goldsmiths (cool) and writes for Vogue (also cool), doesn’t have a single brunch selfie or cute dog picture on her Instagram grid, on which she has only posted 27 times since 2019 (extremely cool). “I’m personally of the belief that ‘coolness’ doesn’t come from trying hard or caring too much,” she says. “Being constantly obsessed with what’s on trend, or how you’re coming across, or whether you’re cringe or not isn’t very interesting to me. I also never take style advice – or any advice, actually – off TikTok.” Jones adds that, given her followers are around her age, they have the same cultural reference points. “It would be a bit weird if I started acting and dressing like a 19-year-old or pretending that I don’t remember LimeWire or 9/11.” The only thing that does bug her about the generation below is the sense she gets that they think they were the first ones to grow up on the internet. “I wasn’t, like, collecting conkers at age 12,” she says. “I was on Myspace.”

Really, it’s impossible to define cool; what’s cool to me won’t necessarily be cool to you. Perhaps, then, there’s hope for the much-maligned millennials: if we think we’re cool, does anything – or anyone – else matter? Perhaps we should all be more like Ormond and wear trainer socks, if we want. “As you get older, it matters less and you have more of a sense of who you are,” she tells me. “That’s probably the coolest thing about being a millennial right now.”

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Those damn Millennials!
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Wait a minute...

Abigail Durrant, the gray-haired woman on the left there, appears to have finished her bachelor's degree no later than 2001. That would make her Gen X.

Pam Briggs, the fat broad in the middle, is in her 50s or 60s. Her LinkedIn shows her beginning college in 1979. She's likely a late Boomer.

Finally, we have David Kirk, who started college in 1998, meaning he was born in the late 70s, no later than 1980. Once again, Gen X.
I said "Creating the world" where those people could have those jobs.... they aren't running the departments, but, their love of fee-fee politics are what created them and HR departments and sensitivity readers and DEI coordinators and on and on and on.
 
Notice that it's all women in the picture. I think they mean how some Millennials became uncool. I know there are a lot of cringey Millennials out there. But this comes off more as a cope and seethe article by some Zoomer. I have seen just about as many cringey Zoomers as I have seen Millennials. Nothing says cool like a broccoli haircut eating sushi listening to nigger music and talking like a nigger. That's sarcasm by the way for the autismonauts. There is nothing cool about that shit. But then again acting like a fucking out of touch Boomer isn't cool either. I see some Millennials and older Zoomers doing this shit and it's super fucking gay. It's pretty shameful when a 40 year old Millennial can manage to act younger than people in my own age range or younger.

We all know liberal white women are a problem.
 
By being woke and cringe. Or sometimes anti-woke and cringe.

It feels like there's some kind of "what happened to millennials" article every month when the answer is that they aged. At least half of them didn't get whacked by the fent fairy like Gen X... right?
 
Sorry millennials. You’re now ageing into the seriously uncool phase of generations. Soon you’ll be their boomers. Enjoy!
(No one cares about gen X, man…)
The problem is... When main stream millennials become of boomer age I think mercy killing would be appropriate for them.
THIS IS GENERATION FAIL... This is the generation that no other generation likes.

THEY are the ones that caused...

1. The speculative market of Toys plus Video Games raising prices to obscene levels.
2. Going into thrift stores and upsale shit online, which caused prices in thrift stores to increase.
3. They are the ones that voted Biden in because of Orange Man Bad, but when you try to talk to them on why he is bad.... they can not give real evidence on this.
4. THEY are the ones that really believed that they can all be rich by 30 with questionable degrees.
5. THEY are the ones THAT BLAMES OTHERS FOR THEIR BAD CHOICES IN LIFE.
6. THEY are the ones who controlled AND fucked up the economy for the past 4 years.
7. THEY are the ones who voted for BIDEN and the Socialists.
8. THEY.... ARE... THE WOKE... THEY ARE Generation FAIL.
9 THEY are the generation that is responsible the DOOM LOOPS that are happening in SF, Portland, Seattle. Woke Socialists that destroyed the local economies with their Socialist Agenda. 10. THEY are the generation that lacks COMMON SENSE and became slaves to social media.
11. THEY ARE THE GENERATION THAT LOOKED DOWN ON EVERYONE ELSE.
This is the generation that had every opportunity to get so fucking ahead in life... And yet the main stream millinnials THREW IT ALL AWAY DURING THE AGE OF FREE MONEY.

I've never fogotten what this generation done to me here in Silicon Valley. They should have left me alone.

Super PACs can be your friend.

So... when rent/leases comes due within my holdings I.... DECIDE.... what the price would be.
NOT the Government... NOT YOUR GOD DAMN BLUSKY SOCIAL MEDIA....
I... DECIDE... THE PRICE THAT YOU WILL PAY IF YOU WANT TO LIVE/WORK IN A NICE AREA

And if I see a fucking vehicle that I know YOU CAN NOT AFFORD... I'll go whatever the price will bare in Northern and/or Southern California. regions...

Note: I am fortunate to have long term lease holders which are not main stream millennials. . Perhaps the reason why is that they take care of my properties and I give them a 20% discount of what the market will bare. Sometimes more if I like them.

Because we both know they would not be able to live in the nices areas I have my investment properties. Being nice does have it's benefits.


Suicide is an option.
Yes,... Yes it definitely is.
 
I said "Creating the world" where those people could have those jobs.... they aren't running the departments, but, their love of fee-fee politics are what created them and HR departments and sensitivity readers and DEI coordinators and on and on and on.

Oh, those poor Boomers and Gen Xers, they were forced by us Millennials to create the diversity-industrial complex while we were still in college! Just like the Boomers and Gen Xers running the colleges forced by us to create campus speech codes and women's outreach programs and diversity quotas. It's a real shame, what we did to those older generations. Imagine how based and redpilled companies like Google and universities like Harvard would be if it wasn't for us Millennials twisting the arms of the people who actually ran things from 2000-present.
 
because you had a chance to really do something and blew it by being faggots. I hate being part of this generation. I'm a very late millennial.

My generation was retarded and royally fucked everything up. I don't even get the benefits they did. I just get to watch it all burn down.
 
It's not really a shocker women who are literally moms are not cool anymore but this in particular stuck out to me:

their choice of jeans (skinny and mom jeans are out; baggy hipsters are in)
“But really, they are just wearing what we wore in our teen years.”
When I was a teenager every single girl around me wore low rise skin tight jeans, usually with an ass crack or a thong hanging out. That doesn't seem to be in vogue anymore. But in general it just reminds me that today's HR lady millennial was definitely a lot different 20 years ago and a lot more fun.
 
1. The speculative market of Toys plus Video Games raising prices to obscene levels.
2. Going into thrift stores and upsale shit online, which caused prices in thrift stores to increase.
3. They are the ones that voted Biden in because of Orange Man Bad, but when you try to talk to them on why he is bad.... they can not give real evidence on this.
4. THEY are the ones that really believed that they can all be rich by 30 with questionable degrees.
5. THEY are the ones THAT BLAMES OTHERS FOR THEIR BAD CHOICES IN LIFE.
6. THEY are the ones who controlled AND fucked up the economy for the past 4 years.
7. THEY are the ones who voted for BIDEN and the Socialists.
8. THEY.... ARE... THE WOKE... THEY ARE Generation FAIL.
9 THEY are the generation that is responsible the DOOM LOOPS that are happening in SF, Portland, Seattle. Woke Socialists that destroyed the local economies with their Socialist Agenda. 10. THEY are the generation that lacks COMMON SENSE and became slaves to social media.
11. THEY ARE THE GENERATION THAT LOOKED DOWN ON EVERYONE ELSE.
Yeah, while the 90s comics bubble burst and '80s video game market crash were not millennial induced, you'd think this generation would have learned from that. I hate Millennials sometimes just because they keep blaming shit that doesn't matter. They didn't cause all the fuckups. The higher ed price/student debt crisis wasn't their fault. Lots of stuff wasn't their fault. But they chose to make everything worse. That's why I just don't like Millennials.

They shat up the resale market and thrift stores. Granted, this probably wasn't explicitly unique to them, but they definitely took to flipping shit en masse online.

They had a chance to try and make good changes. But, instead, they let their feelings take priority. It's how we got endless woke nonsense, zero critical thinking, and then they just keep shitting everything up. On, wonderful, you managed to get someone canceled for racism. You manage to get people harassed. You manage to let troons in the women's bathroom. This shit isn't change. Yes, the '08 recession was bad and isn't explicitly the fault of Millennials, but these retards support endless migrants, DEI, champagne socialism, etc.

Things are shit for me. I'm at least trying to figure shit out. I fucking despise how Millennials (usually shitlibs) keep shitting everything up with the fucking rainbow ass thinking. I don't give a single fuck about social issues. I don't care about them at all. I care about a functioning economy that gives me a shot. I don't even have that any more. The "HR"-ification of everything that the Millennials enabled is so fucking garbage.

and don't get me started on Millennial culture. It's garbage. Social media, woke bullshit, shit done to be edgy/woke while feeling "safe", etc.

They deserve to be made fun of just as much as Boomers do.
 
You're not supposed to appeal to another generation, you're supposed to make them feel worse for them being on a different team. Millenials shouldn't be trying to convince Zoomers that Furbies or Tamagotchis or VHS tapes are cool, they should be making fun of Zoomers by mocking their use of "skibidi toilet" and that they're Mr.Beast cucks. Zoomers shouldn't be trying to convince Millenials that actually Minecraft belongs to them or that they have more "aura" or "rizz," they should be shitting on Millenials for everything in this article.
 
Boomers spent the vast majority of their lives living in the best economy ever, and they fucked it all up for future generations while blaming the younger generations for "being lazy."

Millennials were raised by Boomers and have grown up into a similar sense of entitlement. With all of the economic woes that Millennials have had to deal with in their adulthood (the 2008 recession starting just as Millennials were entering the work force comes to my immediate mind), we can at least proclaim that we had arguably the best childhoods ever ... And as a result, Millennials continue to chase that childhood while not giving any shits about Gen Z's or Gen Alpha's childhoods.

Remember: A lot of the covid "mandates" happened because of scared Boomers and selfish Millennials. An entire generation of kids and young adults are permanently traumatized because of covid.

Covid is one of the reasons why I don't have it in my heart to dunk on Zoomers or Alphas. I just can't.
 
Boomers spent the vast majority of their lives living in the best economy ever, and they fucked it all up for future generations while blaming the younger generations for "being lazy."

Millennials were raised by Boomers and have grown up into a similar sense of entitlement. With all of the economic woes that Millennials have had to deal with in their adulthood (the 2008 recession starting just as Millennials were entering the work force comes to my immediate mind), we can at least proclaim that we had arguably the best childhoods ever ... And as a result, Millennials continue to chase that childhood while not giving any shits about Gen Z's or Gen Alpha's childhoods.

Remember: A lot of the covid "mandates" happened because of scared Boomers and selfish Millennials. An entire generation of kids and young adults are permanently traumatized because of covid.

Covid is one of the reasons why I don't have it in my heart to dunk on Zoomers or Alphas. I just can't.

I hate the Coof era because it stunted my opportunities and rugpulled me just as I finished my Bachelors, so everything went from "Got a degree? Got a decent personality/references? come on in" to the hellscape it is today.

I saw the rug pulled. I'm very resentful to the point that it's unhealthy.
 
Hearing the opinions of an entire generation that will burst into tears if you call them fags and who unironically use tiktok is like being insulted by a retard in diapers, who cares? half the zoomers I see somehow look older than I do anyway.

Entitlement? yeah we had and still have to deal with boomer entitlement but we never had one of our own, the gravy train was already over for millennials before most of us reached middle school, the 90's was mostly for the genX. We got to live the super fun years of 9/11, the patriot act, the forever wars, the great recession, awesome just awesome, and now I'm being lectured by people who get a panic attack if they see a fax machine.
 
And as a result, Millennials continue to chase that childhood while not giving any shits about Gen Z's or Gen Alpha's childhoods.
I haven't put a lot of thought or effort into this theory; but it mainly boils down to Millenials being the first real broken branch of society. The results of the sexual revolution, female empowerment, no fault divorce, single house parenting, etc was brought to the front on the Millenial parents. They were the first where a lot of the "new normal" was a thing, on top of a weird mixture of "no one cares about you" as well as participation trophies. Im not saying Millenials have a right to rebuke those who came after; but growing up in the shit they did, they leaned towards selfish and trying to chase their childhood instead of trying to leave the world a better place.

It may have started with The Boomers, but The Millenials (which I am a part of) didn't gun down and set fire to all the shit inflicted upon them. They retreated to their binkies and transformers, and instead of telling the weak ones to fuck off and die, we're now under their passive-aggressive bullshit where violating pronouns and thought crimes are worse than physical crimes.

I'm open to refinement, but pretty much; Millenials were the first to grow up in this "new normal" believing what our boomer parents told us. Instead of becoming angry and violent, the bitch made niggas took over and made it worse.
 
Boomers spent the vast majority of their lives living in the best economy ever, and they fucked it all up for future generations while blaming the younger generations for "being lazy."

Millennials were raised by Boomers and have grown up into a similar sense of entitlement. With all of the economic woes that Millennials have had to deal with in their adulthood (the 2008 recession starting just as Millennials were entering the work force comes to my immediate mind), we can at least proclaim that we had arguably the best childhoods ever ... And as a result, Millennials continue to chase that childhood while not giving any shits about Gen Z's or Gen Alpha's childhoods.

Remember: A lot of the covid "mandates" happened because of scared Boomers and selfish Millennials. An entire generation of kids and young adults are permanently traumatized because of covid.

Covid is one of the reasons why I don't have it in my heart to dunk on Zoomers or Alphas. I just can't.
GenXers fell out from somewhere there, but yes, I at least got to live with some futuropositivism, at least up until certain time. But them? They are being told their entire lives, that absolutely everything they do, everything they eat, they wear and they find entertaining and everything they can do in any of possible futures, damages and totally destroys the planet, and apart from that, were told to sit on ass and to not socialize to not cause millions of deaths and freezers in the streets. I can't really make fun of them.
 
I haven't put a lot of thought or effort into this theory; but it mainly boils down to Millenials being the first real broken branch of society. The results of the sexual revolution, female empowerment, no fault divorce, single house parenting, etc was brought to the front on the Millenial parents. They were the first where a lot of the "new normal" was a thing, on top of a weird mixture of "no one cares about you" as well as participation trophies. Im not saying Millenials have a right to rebuke those who came after; but growing up in the shit they did, they leaned towards selfish and trying to chase their childhood instead of trying to leave the world a better place.

It may have started with The Boomers, but The Millenials (which I am a part of) didn't gun down and set fire to all the shit inflicted upon them. They retreated to their binkies and transformers, and instead of telling the weak ones to fuck off and die, we're now under their passive-aggressive bullshit where violating pronouns and thought crimes are worse than physical crimes.

I'm open to refinement, but pretty much; Millenials were the first to grow up in this "new normal" believing what our boomer parents told us. Instead of becoming angry and violent, the bitch made niggas took over and made it worse.
This is a perfect post.

I could not agree more with you.

GenXers fell out from somewhere there, but yes, I at least got to live with some futuropositivism, at least up until certain time. But them? They are being told their entire lives, that absolutely everything they do, everything they eat, they wear and they find entertaining and everything they can do in any of possible futures, damages and totally destroys the planet, and apart from that, were told to sit on ass and to not socialize to not cause millions of deaths and freezers in the streets. I can't really make fun of them.
I cannot fathom the mental and emotional hellscape it must have been to be a kid, teenager, or a single 20-something during covid. Literal torture is what it probably was.

Hanging out with your friends and being social is a vital part of your youth, and once your youth is gone, you cannot get it back. That time is so precious for so many reasons, and millions had that time robbed from them ... And Millennials in this article are like "why do you think we are uncool, fellow kids?"

Fuck, I am still so angry about what the kids were put through during covid. It's sinister.
 
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